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日本人送給台的AZ 已經造成11死了......

jeel54321 wrote:
殺人魔要大屠殺前,幫他磨刀的算什麼?

磨刀的有說我要磨刀請你去殺人嗎?


疫苗是用來殺人的工具嗎?你這個比喻沒有一絲的合理性啊!
https://www.reddit.com/r/bioinformatics/comments/mi3fdc/why_do_mrna_vaccines_have_side_effects/



>>Your immune system is whats causing the symptoms. The immune system recognizes and treats the vaccine antigen as a pathogen. This means that the protein will trigger a complex system/cascade of reactions where a shit load of inflammatory and other signaling molecules are dumped locally and into the blood stream. This is necessary to mount an effective immune response, and to recruit and trigger an adaptive immune response. Locally, this causes inflammation/swelling, and systemically can cause other symptoms (fever, chills, fatigue).

More details: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-019-0132-6

>>This answered how vaccines in general can have side effects. Some may wonder why these particular vaccines seem to have stronger effects than say, a typical flu shot in many people.

Part of it may be the two dose issue, which is designed to provoke a stronger response in order to be more effective. It could also be partially due to something specific about mRNA vaccines compared to dead virus ones. These vaccines also have a lot of material (100 ug for Moderna) which was chosen because it had a good immune response.

>>My guess is that, because no mRNA vaccine has been made prior to the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna ones and because of the severity of the pandemic, the companies decided to err on the side of including more material in the vaccines (which risks stronger side effects) than using too little material (which would risk the vaccine being less effective). I don't know if we know whether mRNA vaccine in general have more side effects than something like the flu vaccine because flu vaccine manufactures have had decades of experience to help optimize their product versus us seeing only the very first versions of the mRNA vaccine technology.
tessalady123 wrote:
早說這是連日本人都不打的 ,當個人情送給台灣,就一堆人感動感恩個半死,現在造成11死了 且人數還在增加中....(恕刪)


當初應該先讓1450打
蔡英文的千碑一直都在蓋

不要懷疑她的決心
bd_player wrote:
疫苗是用來殺人的工具(恕刪)


挺台獨疫苗
日本天皇送給日本女兒,原來是要毒殺呆灣人
airbus330 wrote:
挺台獨疫苗(恕刪)

伊朗古巴哈萨克斯坦都批准自产的疫苗了, 连越南都快有了.

台湾自产个疫苗并不是什么大不了的事情

如果不是以色列上辉瑞疫苗太快, 导致他们的brilife疫苗二期做完没有足够的三期招募入组, 否则现在以色列应该也有自己的疫苗了.

你只会抱怨和冷嘲热讽, 根本不知道世界上疫情疫苗和各疫苗的三期临床还有四期临床的情况, 只会看台湾本地各种夸大其词的新闻.

https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/
比較一下:








所以,

香港的輝瑞/BNT(復必泰)+科興,接種220萬劑,死亡68人,平均0.31死亡/萬劑

日本輝瑞/BNT接種1700萬劑,死亡196人,平均0.12死亡/萬劑

台灣AZ截至6/15接種97萬1655劑,死亡2人,

假設6/16和6/15一樣,接種大約15萬劑(參考6/15接種14萬3742劑),傳聞死亡12人,

合計接種112萬1655劑,死亡14人,平均0.12死亡/萬劑

任何人死亡,無論是否確因疫苗所致,都令人遺憾,

但連基本的參考資料都不查證,

就任意影射日本贈送的疫苗有問題,

這是利用死者來達成政治意圖的冷血、惡劣行徑。

附註:

如果香港打的復必泰和日本的輝瑞/BNT是一樣的品質,也是0.12死亡/萬劑,

又香港的復必泰/科興接種比約為0.57/0.43,

那還可以算出科興的接種死亡率:

0.12 x 0.57 + 科興 x 0.43=0.31死亡/萬劑

科興=0.56死亡/萬劑
85609162

夠專業,拿出統計才知道誰好誰壞。 az在亞洲,血栓的機率比歐美低的多。

2021-06-17 2:22
tessalady123 wrote:
早說這是連日本人都不(恕刪)

夠了沒,講這種話你噁不噁心

你要罵,也是罵蔡政府讓我們淪爲疫苗乞丐

日本的善意被你講成好像故意要害死人一樣
BNT有的問題,按原理AZ也會有.AZ還自帶一個腺病毒缺陷(血栓).

真的要想安全,對岸的國藥滅活最安全.台灣的次蛋白疫苗,3000人二期沒事不代表啥,機率萬分之一以下的副作用可能測不出來,現在的WHO認證疫苗都過了二期.


AZ是比較差,問題你現在也沒得選.現在檯面上的東西都是急就章敢出來的,承平時期開發根本不可能這麼快,要求不要太多了.
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