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投資白銀的一起來討論吧!


fonming wrote:
美國財政部3月15日...(恕刪)


現在是拿兩盒大富翁的錢來玩
接下來可能就是要拿四盒、八盒的錢來玩
一夜過去,又跌回40以下,好歹多跌一點嘛!

給點面子,就算跌不回30以下,好歹先跌到35以下.
現在底比較高,單以目前情勢沒辦法這樣達到35,最多盤整一兩日又要上攻了(以目前消息而言,有其他消息另計)
昨晚只是獲利了結的賣壓居多,石油五月期昨日跌掉四塊,白銀依然穩於40上方,黃金也1460附近
石油還是有日本重建需求與冒出來的阿曼鎮壓等中東問題做支撐,除非有重大消息
否則近月石油期105數日之內是很穩固的支撐,目前108五月期,即便到達105點位,白銀也還有37以上實力
黃金應當能保持1440支撐,格達費影響油價其實已經新聞疲乏,這就跟歐洲升息一樣,喊了兩個禮拜市場早就消化,所以一升息利空部分早就預先反映在前兩日盤整,就等確定出反而金銀衝天
格達費這也一樣,新聞一直打利比亞對原油影響不到3%啦,凹不過北約跟美國啦,他的出亡或投降頂多只會讓市場洗籌碼三天,而且洗的主要是獲利出場或打算轉投資的籌碼,而且新聞昨天早上就出了,連續24H至今,油金恐慌性該拋的早就拋了,剩下的大致都是放中長波與穩定的持籌者
第一次樂透沒中 銀價拉回
小白銀們可要抓緊好買點喔
接下來的國債上限與下年度預算之爭才是重頭戲
根據目前共和黨參議員Paul Ryan(Ron Ryan之子)提出的終極預算刪減案
打算分十年削減四兆美元的赤字
其內容主要有兩主軸
一是大幅刪減健保與社會福利補助 改為限額
二是調降富人與企業所得稅上限至25%(是的 你沒看錯 是調降而非調升)

為此 歐巴馬白宮幕僚也放出風聲
關於2012年預算 將
一對富人加稅
二大幅削減國防支出
三以手術刀而非大刀 削減醫療健保與社會福利支出

從目前雙方透露的內容顯示 兩黨依舊充滿了政治算計
打算以預算刪減為藉口 互挖對方牆角
但關鍵在於目前主政者的民主黨 具有主導權
不過也不排除 共和黨玩火過慎 造成國債違約 其後果自己去想像
估計最後大家還是會和稀泥
最有可能的是把刪減的數字往以後年度塞
反正2012年後 誰執政還不知道 先過了這關再說
結論就是 馬照跑 舞照跳 鈔票公債繼續印囉
如果今年漲到50美元,溢價加上搶貨因素,或許一枚普通一盎司銀幣就得2000塊.

若是那天銀幣漲到三千塊一枚,除了包給老爸老媽的紅包不變之外,是否還要包銀幣給姪女和外甥,就得重新考慮了.

阿波8664 wrote:
第一次樂透沒中 銀價...(恕刪)






大家好.這是去年10月份我在歲月流金部落格.斯翰大大那邊所看到的文章.他很熱心收集對大家有益的資訊^^.我貼過來讓大家了解背後所無法想像的一些事情.做個參考.
古人說眾志成城.我們大家就是在做一樣的事情^^.希望大家一起吸收.



一位美國銀行家的內線揭露- 三個警告
.分類:經濟2010/10/16 08:33
.這是一個另類新聞網站http://www.forecastfortomorrow.com 收到線人的告密後,所發布的電話採訪稿。整件事無法證實,不能排除都是瞎掰的,但他描述的內容跟過去一再轉貼的文章觀點是一致的,所以在此供大家參考。

該線人是一位美國的銀行家,在下面的通訊記錄中用假名Joe 來代表他。他因為職務之便認識很多有錢有勢的客戶,其中有些人又認識西方世界的權力核心。

這些客戶基於炫耀心理,偶而會在彼此開會過程聊到一些未來即將發生的事件,並拿這些事件開玩笑,完全不在乎有旁人在場。

他在過去幾年已經碰過幾次這樣的例子,最大的案例是2008 年的股市崩盤以及後續的美國救市動作,他在事發前幾個月就听到客戶聊到整件事了。

雖然這是最近的告密,但描述的是2010 年六月線人與客戶開會聽到的消習!

他的客戶有聊到三個大事件,可惜的是只有片斷的零碎信習,而非事件全貌。

1. 股市

股市受到人為操縱,它會先上漲再下跌,然後「完全改變」,特別是當經濟體系徹底崩潰後。

沒提到時間點,只提到很快了。他的客戶也提到目前事實上已經是大蕭條了(depression),只是主流媒體還在欺騙。

但未來將會有如此眾多的其他「改變」,大家也不會像今日用這麼多心思去關心股市漲跌了! (譯註:今日仍是天下太平,但亂世時人們想的事情不同)

很多有信譽的大公司充滿詐欺跟非法會計,連監管機關也是如此。但這些掩飾手段會在撐不下去後結束。

2. 美元

美元將會崩盤,或者用一個全新不同的貨幣取代。惡性通膨將會發生。

這些客戶正在成噸成噸的買黃金(原文:tons and tons of it),有些客戶把紙幣描述為愚人金。

這些客戶都非常肯定會出現新貨幣,但沒有提到新貨幣將是什麼。他的客戶說其實現在知道要買黃金的人其實還是不多!
(譯註:直到今日,這都還符合事實,雖然中國人較西方人民對黃金更有興趣,但熱衷房地產或股市的投資者還是遠比黃金多)

除此之外,這些客戶也投資白銀。因為金銀有其內在價值。

3. 政治

將會有政治的「大變動」。

十一月大選將會幫他們把討厭的國會議員趕走,並且安插人員來對一直到2011 年的大改變做準備。

有位客戶講了一句很嚴厲的話
「當這個系統真的崩潰後,很多人民將會在看著在他們面前成立的新國家,呆呆的站著或坐著,嚇得說不出話來」
'when the system really collapses a lot of people will sit or stand in silence in awe of the new nation that is forming infront of them'

這位線人說他在聽到這句話的時候,也嚇得背脊一陣涼意。

同一位客戶也提到「2011 年將是轉變年(shifting year),(經濟)將不會像外面那些白痴所祈盼的複蘇」

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hedge201x:上面提到的經濟蕭條及美元崩盤,很多人應該不陌生。

對於最後的政治變動,有些陰謀論認為會出現新的北美聯邦(加拿大、美國、墨西哥合併為一個新國家) 以及北美貨幣,可參考「Operation Blackjack」,希望這只是虛構的...。

另外若看過我之前文章,應該知道我並不認為美元會一路下跌,我認為美元未來相較其他法幣(紙幣)仍可能會有一段上漲時期,而由於今日全世界都採用法幣制度,而且主要貨幣主要都是以美元作為支撐(包括人民幣),所以若美國發生惡性通膨,全世界多數國家都會出現惡性通膨。

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原電話採訪稿如下

The following transcript is a recorded phone call from a high-ranking bank employee who has
agreed to share his insider knowledge of possible events known and implemented by several
highly ranked elite bankers associates in the US and also the European region.
We have agreed to keep this person's identity confidential for obvious reasons and for the full
release of this document. For privacy reasons we will refer to him only as JOE.
Participants: JOHN (FFT Managing Director), JOE (Informant) ,
Call Started 1:04pm AEST
Transcript :-
JOHN : Hello Joe!, is that you?
JOE : Hi John!, thanks for calling back. I am here and can hear you fine.
JOHN : OK! That is great. I know it is late where you are, so I will not take up too much of your
time.
JOE : John, yes it is quite late but I feel I have to do this. Go ahead.
JOHN : Sure, I understand. Now I believe you are a subscriber of mine over at our
http://www.forecastfortomorrow.com website. Is that correct???
JOE : Oh for sure. You have quite a nice following over there, and I have been a
subscriber for a few years, and receive your newsletters as well. I am quite amazed at
some of your information, and accuracy and that is kind of why I contacted you via email
in the first place.
JOHN : Oh really!, well I do appreciate that. We try our best, to help people out. I do not normally
do this sort of thing, but your email intrigued me. I wanted to find out more, so can you tell me a
little bit more about you and your background?
JOE : (nervous) Ahh, yes…..well….ummm… I have been working for ..(large US Bank)..
that is affiliated with ..(Large US broking Firm).. I have many roles but manage large
accounts for various wealthy clients both here at home in the US, UK and also other
European areas. I authorize loans, deals and accounts and have close contact with many
wealthy bright bubbly characters.
JOHN : So you see people from all walks of life ey?
JOE : Eh, no most of my clients are the big wigs, wealthy and very important. I think their
ego's are far bigger then their bank balances if you know what I mean (laughs)
JOHN : (laughs) Yes I am sure!
JOE : They are a different breed of people. And some of the meetings I have attended
lately have alarmed me, especially the way they talk about things, and events that are
possibly coming.
JOHN : You mean to do with the economy, right?
JOE : Well not just the economy….other things as well. But economic talk is high on their
agenda yes!
JOHN : But hang on. These meetings that you attended, were they just normal meetings you are
required to attend as part of your job.
JOE : Yes, but once the small talk and business dealings were out of the way these guys
had no hesitation at talking about the bigger issues and their insider knowledge at hand. I
felt like they should be asking me to leave the room, but they simply did not do this.
JOHN : I see! So you don't think these guys are some secret powerful elite group setting us all
up for destruction.
JOE : I can honestly say no. But the way they kept talking and hinting at things that
happened months later. It was simply amazing!. I know these guys were not directly
responsible for these events but they sure do know some very powerful men in powerful
places. They like to brag about this to each other also.
JOHN : So these guys would be like the next of kin or something if you had to put a title on
them.
JOE : The way they talk, act and behave, most likely yes John! They know a lot more than
both you and myself.
JOHN : OK I see, so……is it…or…can you give me an example of this?
JOE : Well remember back to the stockmarket crash, back in 2008?
JOHN : Yes sure. We were warning our client's months before?
JOE : Yes, But I remember these guys talking about a crash too, and getting their money
out of the market. That was back in June of 2008. But they were also talking about bank
bailouts at the same time. Months before Obama came on the news and said that bailouts
were needed, and before anyone was using the term “BAILOUT” It was quite amazing
when I did hear about this on the news, I realized these guys knew this was going to
happen way before anyone else. I was simply stunned. I knew then it wasn't just a
coincidence.
JOHN : hmmmmm…. I see now. Go on…
JOE : At first I thought they were just educated guesses. But as time went on, there were
too many of these coincidences occurring. At least three or four occasions if I remember
correctly.
JOHN : So it was at this point, your thoughts changed about these guys. You were thinking they
knew a lot more than meets the eye?
JOE : Oh my word! They would say one thing, have a joke about it. Weeks later,
sometimes a month down the track it would happen. When I started taking notes and
seeing these things match up, I was flabbergasted.
JOHN : Ok, why were you asked to attend these meetings in the first place?
JOE : Good question! Apparently two of these guys liked the way I did business. I was
fast, explained things well, and didn't disrespect them. These guys do not like to be
messed around especially when they are after money or depositing large amounts of
money. I was just there to make things sail along smoothly, and I made sure I did this job
as best I could. At times it was very nerve racking. But once you make friends with these
guys, you are treated like a brother. They never asked me to get up and leave at any of
the meetings I attended.
JOHN : Ok, so you are in these meetings, and helping them whilst taking notes. And I believe
you have something to share with our subscribers today. I mean solid knowledge that you think
is reputable? So whenever you are ready go ahead 'Joe'?
JOE : Yes John, that is what I want to do (ruffles paper) I have with me here, some notes
that I scribbled during these meetings. And they keep talking about these events, like I
said they joke around and talk about them like it is not even important. Like kids on a
playground. It is really quite amazing.
JOHN : Oh before we get going, can can you tell us when these notes were taken? So can we
have a date or time estimate?
JOE : Oh yes, yes….sure! aghh these two series of notes were taken from back around
the middle of June 2010, yes June and we have not had a meeting since.
JOHN : Yes, hmmm ok…
JOE : Ummm, so I have 3 major things that they kept talking about and referring to. They
were constantly referring to the small things that have already occurred, but these three
events are what they refer to as being the “biggies”. You know, major events that could
be coming down the track.
JOHN : 3 major things huh? Ok I am listening….
JOE : (ruffles paper) Ok the first one I have written down here and they talked about a lot
was do not worry about the stockmarket. It is heavily manipulated, and will go up and
down and eventually change entirely. Especially after the whole economic system
collapses. They gave no timelines, but say it is coming soon.
They were also joking about the media, saying that the lies will continue, and that we are
actually back in a depression right now and it will get worse!. Not recovering like the
mainstream media keep telling us. If the markets do sell off again to deep dark levels the
stockmarket will seem meaningless anyway. That is because they see so many changes
coming. Similar to what you have been telling your clients.
JOHN : You mean there will be no stockmarket?
JOE : No, not entirely. They keep hinting that it will change so much and we will see so
many changes, that it will not be as meaningful as it is today. If the market does exist, it
will change a lot and be much stricter. They know that the government are covering up
how much manipulation and thievery goes on at the exchanges each day. And they do
not want us to know about this.
Many companies that people once thought were solid are doing illegal accounting and
fraud and other things. Think about how many companies have been exposed in the last
18 months. There will be many more to come. This also includes those agencies that
oversee these activities. Many shakeups coming were what they were saying. The
markets, when all said and done, will greatly change as they are not reality based. The
games and efforts to continue the financial cover-ups just cannot continue.
The good thing about all of this crashing. The corrupt cannot continue the game much
longer, as reality does not support it. Once things get worse, and they will get much
worse according to these guys, in the financial and economic sector, everything will have
to be adjusted, revamped and corrected. A good day will no longer be based on the
faulty or moody stockmarkets, if that makes sense. Things will recover but it will take
sometime.
JOHN : hmmmm Right? I see….that doesn't surprise me in the slightest, but it is important
information. We trade stock and indicies here from day to day, and I have to agree with this.
There is always so much manipulation that goes on, you can actually see it on your screen.
Fake bids, sales order flows and stacks. I know that a lot of people think this is a false, but it
does really happen because we see it on our screens and have also recorded obvious
occurrences from time to time.
It is becoming harder for the retail trader to make money from the market these days I must say.
So I find your comments there very interesting. Continue on 'Joe' what was the second thing you
have written down?
JOE : Aghh ok, the second thing down on my list is……agh….. watch the US dollar. They
are saying that either two things will happen. One, they will crash it and send it to the
depths, or before this happens they will stop it trading and bring in an entirely new
different currency. It will hurt a lot of people, and business owners. All they said as they
talked amongst themselves is watch the US dollar. They are going to greatly and
massively devalue this and try and send people broke. This is scary I must say.
They then went on and described in great detail that this would have massive nightmare
consequences. Prices would rise, inflation would come in and most likely lead to massive
hyperinflation. It will happen a while from now, but they kept saying this is imminent.
The most alarming thing for me to hear, was they were buying gold and not just bullions.
Tons and tons of it. Yes they kept mentioning tons. I was totally stunned. They said this
was a safe haven and they are doing deals in gold already because they know of the real
worth of the US paper currency. They refer to paper currencies as “fools gold”. Now I see
why. 'It has no meaning' one of them abruptly said this day. I wrote it down. The words
'No meaning' really played with me that day as I went to lunch and payed the cashier with
my US paperback. They did not give a specific time for this, but as they said a new
currency will be coming in soon, again they were very solid on this idea, but in what form
then did not really reveal that.
They really talked a lot about gold the last few meetings, and said it will go a lot higher.
They did not give me a level, but they said when the smart people wake up and get into
safety then you will see it rise. But at the moment they are saying the smart people have
not even woken up in the slightest yet. And there really is NOT a lot of people that own
gold right now, like your average investor.
JOHN : Man that is so interesting right now….I say this because as you said that I whacked up a
chart of the US dollar and it is looking very sick particularly in the last few months. Down and
down she goes. (tapping noise) And gold today is at a new highs $1347 an ounce. So maybe
we are only just seeing the start to all of this, according to them.
JOE : I am not guaranteeing anything here, but from their language yes, the dollar will
devalue or stop operating and send gold up much higher. Silver too. They are investing in
silver and other metals at the moment and love talking about it. But gold and silver
because it has real worth. I did not hear them say if gold would go above $1347 an ounce,
but assume that is likely because they talk about it like it being very very safe in years
from now. So I am guessing the price will increase significantly with ups and downs.
JOHN : We have been telling our clients to invest in gold and silver for many years. Some of our
top business clients have made a killing. But they were the ones who took action, so they are
the ones who deserve credit.
JOE : Yes I own a little gold, and have a wife and two kids. I think I will be looking to buy
more down the track, to help secure our future a little more.
JOHN : Wow! Good for you. I agree with this we have been buying large portions of gold
whenever it has big dips down. Ok lets not get sidetracked here 'Joe' what else interesting were
these guys saying? Anything we should know about?
JOE : (Paper tares, ruffles) ok sure John! Yes I have one more. It was a bit generalized but
I made sure to write it down, because it was very interesting. They were saying there are
big political shake ups coming. I think I saw one of your forecasts that goes along with
this.
JOHN : Yes, we were saying look for a move by the republicans. Maybe in a big way. Who
knows?
JOE : I see, hmmmmm yes they are saying that this is a rigged game also. Politicians are
very good liars and there are major changes coming. Possibly in line with your thoughts
there John. They are saying congressmen are being set up and rigging things and saying
look for bigger changes in the November elections this year. They didn't mention who is
going to get in, but they were hinting that there are major players behind in the
background making moves to get rid of the old dogs. It is quite interesting because when
you look at the news today this seems like it has already started. But the way they are
talking, this will continue all the way throughout the year. With the elections being the
pinnacle or highlight of these occurrences. So I am watching with keen interest.
Any new significant changes they say will come and will be very evident leading in
towards 2011. They are saying the political system is nothing more than a rigged family
board game with rules being bent and twisted all the time.
JOHN : That is very alarming to say the least. But I am not surprised in any way. Joe did they
have anything else to say regarding this matter?
JOE : Not really. It is hard to keep up with them as they are always joking and making
reference to things constantly. Just like you and I are talking right now. I just scribble
down anything that I think is of use. Sometimes I think they want to leak the info out just
so they can show off and try to outdo each other.
The only other thing I have written down and took interest in was when one of them said
sternly, 'when the system really collapses a lot of people will sit or stand in silence in awe
of the new nation that is forming infront of them'. He actually said it in those words, I
scribbled it down as he spoke them. It sort of put shivers down my spine when I did this.
Also this same elderly gentlemen said 2011 will be a shifting year, and things will not
recover for a while like the idiots out there keep saying.
JOHN : I have to say, I agree with this. I think things will recover but that is years away, not a
month or so like the news keeps cramming down our throats.
JOE : Oh yes, spot on there buddy! They are saying things will get a lot worse before it
gets better the way they are talking. We won't be eating lolly pops under cotton candy
rain clouds anytime soon.
JOHN : (laughs) )
JOE : (soft laughter)
JOHN : Yes! It is sad but true. It will be interesting to see what happens, and if these guys have
a clear case of things to come. Ok it is getting late your end. Do you want to add anything, or
yes, I think we might wrap things up now!!
JOE : well….ahhh I do not have much more at this time. So yeah, its getting late and I
just wanted to help you out. You do some great work so just wanted to help you out. I am
sure your members will find it interesting. I just didn't want to keep this to myself. I know
you were a bit sceptical, but …..you know, hopefully chatting today has given you a bit
more confidence into what is really going out there in the business world and these little
elite groups that do exist.
JOHN : Well I appreciate that, and I will be keeping a close eye on this. I have not really done
this sort of a thing before and was a bit hesitant, but after listening to you today, it seems that a
lot of this stuff could be very significant, and I was actually taking notes whilst listening to you
‘joe’.
JOE : OH,….oh…you were taking notes. Well that is great. I know this is being recorded
also. Am I correct??
JOHN : Yes that is right, So thankyou for your kind words and for contacting me yesterday. And
for talking with me today. We are living in a very important time.
JOE : That we are my friend. For sure!
JOHN : OK I think that just about does it. So, joe thanks for the info. We will be watching and
waiting to see what happens. But I hope this information can help those who are indeed out
there still wondering what is really happening and why they need to wake up to what is around
them.
JOE : Oh john!
JOHN : Yes!
JOE : I know that right now, there might be people that are sceptical. But I have to say
that I was also sceptical at first. So being sceptical is good. I think it is just who we are
and our protective coating that we have around us.
JOHN : I would agree with that. Ummm…so I am going to let people decide for themselves.
JOE : Ok thanks for your time, I know you have lots to do. So thankyou for giving me the
time to share this knowledge with you.
JOHN : Not a problem 'Joe' thanks for taking out time and staying up late to pass on all this info
to us. And we will say our goodbyes and talk later.
JOE : OK, no sweat! Again keep up the great work you do, and if I get anything interesting
I will probably shoot you over a quick message.
JOHN : That would be fine! I would love to hear any more info that comes to light. Thanks a lot.
OK goodnight, and God Bless.
JOE : OK, Goodnight, bye. (hangs up)
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TaipeiThomas wrote:
但漲到100~200我覺得是合理可行的 也賺夠了
300~500 就靠福氣了...
恕刪)


其實數字不重要 重要的是到時候能買到什麼東西 cc
破新高 拉回 整理 接下來?

剛剛又接了一些白銀 看來一波又比一波高 可以期待
剛剛跑去面交銀幣!!

沒錯!

就是這個詭異時間

買了一枚中央銀行2000年發行的銀幣

有外盒跟木製展示架

廳賣家說銀樓只願意收450元

我用1000元跟他收了

這樣也不欺負人!!

paris1981 wrote:
剛剛跑去面交銀幣!!...(恕刪)


是2000年千禧龍年紀念銀幣嗎?
如果是的話就賺到了!
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