pqaf wrote:
那你個人覺得,華為有沒有販售 內含美國管制技術的華為設備 給伊朗呢?
中興通訊在被抓到白紙黑字「ZTE-规避出口风险」文件裡,有暗示某家大廠也有賣設備給伊朗...
文件更列出一家叫做 F7 的公司，顯示中興如何從 F7 學習規避美國制裁的方法。
為什麼不可以賣東西給伊朗? 美國是中國的阿爸嗎?
美國一聲令下全世界都照辦嗎?
所以美國會有恐怖攻擊自找的! 根本邪惡國家
Emma0425 wrote:
為什麼不可以賣東西...(恕刪)
如果 華為 的手機和設備有本事,完全不用到 美商的一點通訊技術,華為只是賣香蕉給伊朗的話,就不用理美國司法部....
事實上,華為的 通訊設備很難避免使用到美國的管制技術 或 IC, 當初 華為 能夠獲得美國政府同意,下單購買這些管制技術或IC之前,已經 有先 簽下美方要求的管制同意書,也知道違反規定會遭受的懲罰了.
華為可以不做美國市場的生意. 但華為不能不用美國的技術和IC. 既然簽下美方的管制同意書,還明知故犯,那美國當然要抓人來重罰了.
中國很多高科技公司,過去習慣於竊取台灣或韓國的LCD/OLED 面板專利技術 或 美國的商用軟體,在中國境內生產銷售,在中國政府保護之下,這些高科技公司已經橫行很久了.
但現在川普不再睜一眼閉一隻眼,這些中國高科技公司,應該要有警覺,時代不同了,想做跨國生意,賺美金,就該好好遵守國際慣例和規範.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/12/05/canada-arrests-huawei-cfo/
Canada arrests Huawei CFO for violating Iran sanctions (updated)
The US wants Wanzhou Meng extradited to face trial.
Jon Fingas 5h ago in Mobile
Brent Lewin/Bloomberg via Getty Images
Huawei's ongoing US troubles just got much worse. Canadian law enforcement has confirmed to the Globe and Mail that it arrested Huawei CFO Wanzhou Meng at the request of the US over claims she violated sanctions against Iran. Most details are under wraps due to a publication ban at Meng's request, but she was arrested on December 1st in Vancouver and will have a bail hearing on December 7th.
We've asked Huawei for comment.
Meng isn't a stranger to issues with sanctions. In 2013, Reuters found that Meng served on the board of Skycom Tech, a company that offered to sell HP equipment to Iran in late 2010 with Huawei's apparent blessing -- 13 pages of the proposal were marked as "Huawei confidential." The deal reportedly never went through, but it could have landed at least Huawei and Skycom in trouble. It's unclear if the arrest has a connection to the 2010 sale or is based solely on separate allegations.
Either way, the bust could easily raise tensions between the US and Huawei, if not China at large. American officials have not only banned Huawei devices in government, they've pressured other countries to drop the use of Huawei equipment, with at least some success. Now, the US has arrested one of the highest-ranking executives in the company -- that's a serious blow regardless of the merits of the case, and it's doubtful either Huawei or the Chinese government will have kind words in response.
Update 12/5/18 9:38PM ET: Huawei has provided the following statement to Engadget:
Recently, our corporate CFO, Ms. Meng Wanzhou, was provisionally detained by the Canadian Authorities on behalf of the United States of America, which seeks the extradition of Ms. Meng Wanzhou to face unspecified charges in the Eastern District of New York, when she was transferring flights in Canada.
The company has been provided very little information regarding the charges and is not aware of any wrongdoing by Ms. Meng. The company believes the Canadian and US legal systems will ultimately reach a just conclusion.
Huawei complies with all applicable laws and regulations where it operates, including applicable export control and sanction laws and regulations of the UN, US and EU.
berry.chen wrote:
諾基亞，愛利信進伊朗生意，華為是不是可以抗告？（美國也不會理）
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伊朗是2017年主要電信公司跟諾基亞簽合作備忘錄。
大陸是等伊朗制裁完後，獨佔伊朗通信，目前大陸在伊朗的營運未因伊朗制裁中斷或撤離。
好像是這樣的...
之前2016年起，美國對於伊朗的制裁解禁了，
中興被訴是針對其2010年1月起至2016年的違反制裁禁令行為，
而今年11月5日起美國對於伊朗的制裁又重新啟動了，
所以我猜你說的諾基亞、愛立信的伊朗合作案可能也是泡湯了
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我覺得大家可以不要那麼快下評論，
因為目前公開的資訊太少了(部分原因是孟晚舟申請了publication ban)，
我猜不用等太久應該會有比較多的案件細節公開，
到時候再來討論可能比較有意義
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