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以色列的重磅航空炸彈,在上千避難婦女兒童頭頂2米處空爆。

lowstar wrote:
你有看Earshot.ngo對兩段影片的分析嗎


你有看懂?
你來說明啊!
我看你連
"Doppler Effect analysis"
是什麼都不清楚吧?
tgdlyg wrote:
你有看懂?你來說明啊...(恕刪)


The Doppler Effect is a change in the observed frequency emitted by a sound source that is moving relative to an observer. In the first video, taken 150m south-east of the hospital, we hear a pronounced frequency increasing in pitch and then decreasing until impact.
多普勒效應是相對於觀察者移動的聲源發出的觀察到的頻率的變化。在距離醫院東南 150m 處拍攝的第一個視頻中,我們聽到頻率明顯升高,然後降低直至撞擊。

The increasing pitch suggests the missile is accelerating towards the camera. The decreasing pitch suggests that the missile is now moving away from the camera while still accelerating, upon the missile’s impact.
增加的俯仰角表明導彈正在加速飛向攝像機。減小的俯仰角表明,導彈在撞擊時正在遠離攝像機,同時仍在加速。

The IDF claimed the missile was fired by the Islamic Jihad from a south-western location. If this was the case, we would expect the pitch observed by this camera to increase continuously until the missile’s impact.
以色列國防軍聲稱這枚導彈是伊斯蘭聖戰組織從西南部地點發射的。如果是這種情況,我們預計該攝像機觀察到的俯仰會持續增加,直到導彈撞擊。

However, the Doppler Effect that we hear indicates that the missile was closer to the camera before hitting the hospital. This would mean that the missile approached the hospital from north-east, east or south-east.
然而,我們聽到的多普勒效應表明導彈在擊中醫院之前距離攝像機更近。這意味著導彈是從東北、東部或東南方向接近醫院的。

A second video captures the moment of the strike from around 1,500 meters north-west of the hospital. In this video, the missile can be heard moving with a less pronounced Doppler Effect, where the pitch is increasing up to the moment of the explosion.
第二段視頻在醫院西北約 1,500 米處捕捉到了襲擊的瞬間。在這段視頻中,可以聽到導彈以不太明顯的多普勒效應移動,直到爆炸的那一刻,音高一直在增加。

This increasing pitch suggests the missile is continuously accelerating towards the camera until impact. The camera’s north-western location suggests an eastern missile trajectory, further decreasing the probability that the missile approached the hospital from south-west.
這種不斷增加的俯仰表明導彈不斷向攝像機加速直至撞擊。攝像機的西北位置表明導彈彈道位於東部,進一步降低了導彈從西南方向接近醫院的可能性
qwe0506

看看原來是X的資料2千7跟,再看看earshot。NGO網站,連主持人名字都沒有,像臨時架設的網站,實驗方法也沒說。證據原汁原味的比較準。

2023-10-21 11:17
lowstar

哈哈哈,那你找個分析可以令人信服的twitter大佬來唄?

2023-10-21 11:37
tgdlyg wrote:
你有看懂?你來說明啊...(恕刪)


還有對以色列發佈的所謂在醫院爆炸后截獲的哈馬斯成員之間的通話

分析下來也是假的

你支持的以爹(不對,美國粑粑的爹應該叫以爺)就是個滿嘴謊言的國家

On the morning of October 18th, Israel Defence Forces released this video. Earshot.ngo performed an audio analysis and found that this recording was manipulated and cannot be used as a credible source of evidence.
10月18日上午,以色列國防軍發布了這段視頻Earshot.ngo進行了音頻分析,發現該錄音被篡改,不能用作可靠的證據來源。

lowstar wrote:
還有對以色列發佈的所謂在醫院爆炸后截獲的哈馬斯成員之間的通話

分析下來也是假的

你支持的以爹(不對,美國粑粑的爹應該叫以爺)就是個滿嘴謊言的國家


這難說了,
因為根據對話,
醫院不進大門往右,
的確在google地圖上看起來是一大片墓園,
街景被高牆擋住無法確認,
是符合對話內容的.

如果是伊斯蘭聖戰發射的火箭彈,
可能是哈瑪斯成員一開始以為是在墓園發射直接打到醫院的.

以色列有雷達追蹤來源,
沒必要弄個假錄音來砸自己的腳.



lowstar wrote:
The Doppler Effect is a change in the observed frequency emitted by a sound source that is moving relative to an observer. In the first video, taken 150m south-east of the hospital, we hear a pronounced frequency increasing in pitch and then decreasing until impact.
多普勒效應是相對於觀察者移動的聲源發出的觀察到的頻率的變化。在距離醫院東南 150m 處拍攝的第一個視頻中,我們聽到頻率明顯升高,然後降低直至撞擊。

The increasing pitch suggests the missile is accelerating towards the camera. The decreasing pitch suggests that the missile is now moving away from the camera while still accelerating, upon the missile’s impact.
增加的俯仰角表明導彈正在加速飛向攝像機。減小的俯仰角表明,導彈在撞擊時正在遠離攝像機,同時仍在加速。

The IDF claimed the missile was fired by the Islamic Jihad from a south-western location. If this was the case, we would expect the pitch observed by this camera to increase continuously until the missile’s impact.
以色列國防軍聲稱這枚導彈是伊斯蘭聖戰組織從西南部地點發射的。如果是這種情況,我們預計該攝像機觀察到的俯仰會持續增加,直到導彈撞擊。

However, the Doppler Effect that we hear indicates that the missile was closer to the camera before hitting the hospital. This would mean that the missile approached the hospital from north-east, east or south-east.
然而,我們聽到的多普勒效應表明導彈在擊中醫院之前距離攝像機更近。這意味著導彈是從東北、東部或東南方向接近醫院的。

A second video captures the moment of the strike from around 1,500 meters north-west of the hospital. In this video, the missile can be heard moving with a less pronounced Doppler Effect, where the pitch is increasing up to the moment of the explosion.
第二段視頻在醫院西北約 1,500 米處捕捉到了襲擊的瞬間。在這段視頻中,可以聽到導彈以不太明顯的多普勒效應移動,直到爆炸的那一刻,音高一直在增加。

This increasing pitch suggests the missile is continuously accelerating towards the camera until impact. The camera’s north-western location suggests an eastern missile trajectory, further decreasing the probability that the missile approached the hospital from south-west.
這種不斷增加的俯仰表明導彈不斷向攝像機加速直至撞擊。攝像機的西北位置表明導彈彈道位於東部,進一步降低了導彈從西南方向接近醫院的可能性


我簡單問一下就好,
你的說法就是航空炸彈,
那以色列都是用F16投彈,
當時美國航空母艦已經有一艘在地中海了,
你認為以色列用F16去炸醫院,
美國航母的雷達會不知道,
以色列騙得過?

就算美國裝作不知道,
鄰近埃及沒有雷達?
附近國家都沒有雷達?
只要調出雷達的紀錄來證明醫院爆炸時有以色列軍機在上空不就咬死以色列了,
為何到目前都沒有?

致於earshot.ngo是誰?
用Doppler Effect analysis 分析?
這有什麼公信力?

影像都那麼清楚反而不相信?
tgdlyg wrote:
我簡單問一下就好,你...(恕刪)


看來你搞不清楚啊

美國幫他爹掩蓋真相我就不説了

你知不知道以色列曾經占領過西奈半島?

你知道西奈半島還給埃及有什麽條件嗎

那就是,埃及不能在西奈半島駐軍,只允許警察進駐

西奈半島是沒有埃及軍隊雷達站的

加沙地區的制空權,一直都在以色列手上

哦,開始質疑earshot.ngo了吧,很簡單,earshot.ngo是個音頻分析非營利組織

Sonic investigations for communities affected by corporate, state, and environmental injustice.

這樣,你找個可以反駁這家NGO的分析來給我們看看吧
我不是軍事專家,看網友討論提供相關資料僅供參考

我綠共我驕傲
tgdlyg wrote:
這難說了,因為根據對...(恕刪)


說以色列造假還沒造好是有原因的

阿拉伯國家的人民對於這段錄音的印象就是

這兩個人説的阿拉伯語不是加沙口音

lowstar wrote:
看來你搞不清楚啊

美國幫他爹掩蓋真相我就不説了

你知不知道以色列曾經占領過西奈半島?

你知道西奈半島還給埃及有什麽條件嗎

那就是,埃及不能在西奈半島駐軍,只允許警察進駐

西奈半島是沒有埃及軍隊雷達站的

加沙地區的制空權,一直都在以色列手上

哦,開始質疑earshot.ngo了吧,很簡單,earshot.ngo是個音頻分析非營利組織

Sonic investigations for communities affected by corporate, state, and environmental injustice.

這樣,你找個可以反駁這家NGO的分析來給我們看看吧


你確定埃及的雷達掃不到加薩?
鄰近一個國家的雷達都掃不到加薩?

引用右邊這個影像根本有問題好嘛!



確定是醫院當下的影片?
醫院停車場周圍全部是建築,
結果這個影像在火光下,
看不到建築的輪廓,
這不是有鬼嗎?



周圍建築的布置根本沒有這種角度可以看到停車場的大火,
卻沒有建築物輪廓的可能性.




還有另一個栽贓影片是用炸彈擊中街道大樓的,
如果你用栽贓影片來分析,
怎麼會有正確的結果?
lowstar wrote:
說以色列造假還沒造好是有原因的

阿拉伯國家的人民對於這段錄音的印象就是

這兩個人説的阿拉伯語不是加沙口音


這就好笑了,
哈瑪斯成員都是加薩民眾?
其他伊斯蘭組織成員都混不進去加薩?

台灣這邊媒體都是用加薩?
沒人用加沙?
那你是哪邊混進來的?
lowstar

笑死我了,你反駁這段錄音的分析好不好? 我啊,我HKer啊,唔得咩?[大笑][大笑]

2023-10-21 10:31
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