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[求助]即將要環遊世界,請建議攝影裝備(內有翻譯)

小弟已經從C家跳到N家了(EOS 3 --> D200)
如果以C家來說...
機身建議兩台機身都帶...不過隨身只帶一台...
另一台是備用(包裝好托運吧)...出國在外...誰知道機身會發生什麼事...
畢竟出國一趟不容易...而且又是環遊世界...

鏡頭小弟建議帶16-35L以及70-200L加上2X+EX580外加一支腳架...
至於缺的那個焦段24-70L就不用帶了...
不用帶有三個好處..
1.身上的負重減少...
2.換鏡頭的時間減少...換鏡頭的風險也減少了
3.不帶出國就不會掉在國外...少一個鏡頭少很多風險...

如果一定要帶一顆大光圈的...那就50/1.4(1.2)吧...是也佔不了什麼空間重量的...
(要是我...我會多帶CONTAX Aria+50/1.4)
身上帶太多鏡頭...有時候少了一個自己也不見得會發現...
團隊也不見得會等你...減少換鏡頭的時間對大家都有好處...
那不足的焦段要如何處理呢...
善用你的雙腳吧...
如果機身上面接的是70-200L...那就後退幾步囉...
如果是16-35L...當然就是前進幾步了...

閃光燈如果能帶EX580當然是最好...腳架也是必帶的...
閃燈的電池應該帶低自放的也許比較好...多帶個幾組...
晨昏的景色當然不能放過...這是難得的機會阿...
回國後記得要PO相片上來給大家看這是最最重要的...切忌切記...

如果是N家的...
鏡頭只要帶D200加12-24加80-400加SB800+腳架...再加CONTAX...
(鏡頭小弟我都沒用過.不知成像如何)應該會比較輕鬆吧...
Since this is a privite trip instead of a professional mission,

I'd like to remind you don't let your photo equipments dominated you.

After all, enjoy the trip itself comes first .......

For your reference, I'm going to New Zealand with my family during the

chinese new yaer holidays and I planned to take the following equipments:

EOS 5D
17-40 F4 L
24-105 F4 L IS
50 F1.4
430EX
Epson P-2000 OTG

And my wife will take a small Sony DV with her to take video clips for this trip.

  小毛提供的意見不是和相機有關而是和其他裝備有關,不過還是可以參考一下喔。

  小毛去年夏天去瑞士玩了22天,服裝方面總共只待了三件短袖 T-shirt 和一件長袖襯衫還有兩條長褲,所以所有的行李加起來只有一個被包和一個側背包。

  關鍵是那些衣服都是 The North Face 專為戶外生活設計的快乾衣和快乾褲。有多快?洗完之後即使是在下雨多霧且沒有冷氣的地方,八個小時可以完全乾透,有冷氣的空間會乾的更快。衣服佔據包包的空間是很可觀的,所以可以少帶的衣服愈少愈好。

  冬季也有快乾衣和快乾褲,而且重量輕,保暖度高,另外,防水保暖的外套也是必須的,他們家的款式很多,但小毛建議選兩件可拆式的,所謂可拆式指的是內層的保暖層可以拆下來,而兩件可拆式還有分,有一類是推出時就已經搭配好了,另一類是沒有搭配好的,小毛建議選沒有搭配好的,因為他們家的刷毛外套和羽絨外套或背心有很多,真的很多,可以搭配兩件可拆式外套,所謂可以搭配是指兩件的拉鍊可以拉起來變成一件,所以兩件可拆式外套會有兩組共四條拉鍊。

  材質上, Gore-tex 不用講,防水透氣,若有 XCR 標誌的表示更透氣,還有另一種透氣性較弱的 HyVent,但一樣完全防水,HyVent 也有透氣性較佳的布料,叫做 HyVent Alpha,不過 Gore-tex 比較貴就是了。以前述兩件可拆式未搭配內裡保暖層外套為例,HyVent 布料的售價約在 NT8,500 左右,HyVent Alpha 就跳到 NT11,500,Gore-tex 布料則要NT12,500 到 NT13,500,Gore-tex XCR 布料也差不多在12,500 到 13,500之間。

  不過若保暖內裡若要自選的話,外套和內裡兩件相加會比原本就搭配好兩件可拆式外套的貴兩三千元,好處是彈性比較大。

  褲子也很重要,derekslin兄去的地方有冬天有夏天,還有西藏,因此可以買一件防水保暖褲,這種褲子裡面有鋪棉,可以保暖,鋪棉的厚度也有選擇,然後再帶一件兩節式快乾褲和沒有保暖功能的防水褲,總共三條褲子就夠了。如果不放心,可以帶兩條快乾褲作為替換,共四條褲子。兩節式快乾褲的褲管是可拆的,拆下來便成為短褲。

  鞋子還是要選防水的,普通運動鞋若濕掉了沒有兩三天乾不了,所以鞋子的防水是最重要的,除了雨鞋外,請認明 Gore-tex 標誌,The North Face 的 Gore-tex 鞋依照功能不同,價錢分布在 NT3,600 到 NT6,800 之間。

  快乾衣的售價比較便宜,大多介於 1,500 到 2,000 之間。

  小毛那時帶的相機是 K/M 的 D5D 和 18-200 的懶人鏡,有帶腳架,照一照,發現腳架有時真的需要。儲存裝置也很重要,一定要帶一個多媒體硬碟去,iRiver, Archos......有很多選擇,但是一定要帶。

  還有萬國轉接頭,市面上有一種黑色圓柱狀的萬國轉接頭,這個一定要帶,有些機場的商店就有賣,至少電池和多媒體硬碟需要充電。

  加上襪子和盥洗用具,這樣應該一個大背包可以解決,裝的好說不定還有空間塞照相器材,另外加一個像機包,總共兩包應該就可以了,如果derekslin兄熱愛攝影,除了這照相器材外所有其他裝備最好都能輕量化,功能性強,專業戶外服裝和一般服裝的差別真的很大,不過要花一點錢就是了。

  最後強調一點,最好是包包也可以防水,反正裝備的防水性很重要就是了,因為撐傘真的很麻煩.....
攝影攝影攝影!
spacetime2010 wrote:
我覺得能省則省不然一個好好行程變體力折磨...此外尊夫人攝影觀相當有見地.一語道破我輩盲點.(恕刪)


I guess simplify is the key word. I will try to remember that. I think I know what I need to bring with me while out taking photos. Decide before leave the hotel room, pack equipment I need for the trip. That way I will be able to enjoy this trip.

I really appreciate my wife letting me go on this trip. When I started to plan for this Around the World private jet tour, I told her we would go together. We need to find a nanny to take care of our kids and aunt to watch over them. She told me she will take care of kids while I am away. she rather tavel with me once a year to different countries. Different style of traveling. She still would let me go alone. I was shocked. So I offer to take care two kids and fly back to Taiwan to see both of our parents alone while she stay in U.S. and enjoy her time alone to do whatever she wants to do. I believe this is how marriage should be. Trying to work out the difference. Of course she think we are financially stable and we all think we have the ability to make money.

Her view of photography is different. She likes to see people in the photo. I guess any photographer who works for living shooting post card photos are better than me. That is why she rather see me shooting photos of my family.


I will definitly post photos here once I get back from this trip.


ELS56 wrote:
團隊也不見得會等你...減少換鏡頭的時間對大家都有好處...腳架也是必帶的...(恕刪)


Good point! I guess two lens on me at anytime. I still have trouble finding a good small tripod after some search earlier today. I have two good tripod, but both are heavy. I may end up not able to take night shots. I also don't think others wants to see me set up tripod while doing group tour.




小毛 wrote:
  小毛提供的意見不是和相機有關而是和其他裝備有關...(恕刪)


Excellent information!!!

This is what I mean, I have learn so much on this site. I do have most of stuff already. It is a matter of picking the right combination. Without your information, I may end up bring more than I need. I have print out a copy of your post and I will make sure I get it right.

Question for 小毛:
Any North Face model equipment you recommend or point me to the right source/direction?


I have about less than 6 days left. I hope I will have time to get all things together.

thanks,


Derek
Austin, Texas
  derekslin兄真是客氣,既然大部分的裝備都有了,那就檢視看看有沒有缺少什麼,若要去這些地方,小毛至少會這樣帶:

一、服裝

兩節式快乾褲兩條

保暖防水褲一條

防水褲一條

可拆兩件式防水外套一件

可單穿羽絨保暖內裡外套一件(西藏太冷了,刷毛內裡外套可能不夠)

T-Shirt 式刷毛長袖一件

快乾衣短袖三件(當內衣換)

襪子得要看在同一家飯店會住多久,小毛至少會帶12雙

防水球鞋(如果爬山行程多就穿登山鞋,登山鞋不是首選是因為比較重,也不要穿有加強保暖功能的鞋,腳會流汗。除了西藏和摩洛哥外,其他地方看起來好像不會很冷。)

運動涼鞋一雙(作為球鞋濕掉時的備用鞋,所以要"運動"涼鞋)

防水棒球帽一頂(防水外套的帽子容易遮到眼睛,加一頂帽子就完美了)


  以上裝備在 North Face 都買得到,小毛沒有特別指定的型號,不過材質上小毛會盡量選透氣性佳最高的,所以Gore-tex XCR 材質是小毛的首選,這些服裝應該除夠應付這趟旅程了,保暖防水褲、羽絨外套和刷毛長袖 T-Shirt 比較佔空間,所以包包要大一點,包包最好防水,至少要準備防水的背包套喔。

  至於內褲不知道美國有沒有台灣那種免洗式的內褲,小小的一包有三件,真的超省空間,穿起來也不會不舒服。還有指甲剪一個,因為23天指甲可以長很長,會不舒服喔;LED 手電筒一個,省電亮度高。盥洗用具就不用講了,這個大概不會忘。

  背包方面,小毛會多帶一個空的後背包作為輕裝備外出時用,當然啦,這個包包要可以折的小小的,這樣才能塞進大包包內。


二、電子裝備

多媒體硬碟一個

萬國轉接頭一個

手持式GPS(紀錄位置,將來可以匯入相片EXIF中,結合 Google Map 就可以知道照片是在這個星球上的哪裡照的,日後看照片時會發現這種感覺真的很奇妙)

存有旅行資料的UMPC(小毛是用 Sony UX 17)一台或PDA

至少兩張像機可用的大容量記憶卡

太陽能充電器一個(Solio 不錯,但不能充電腦,可以充PDA)


  另外,雖然小毛只是剛開始學習照相,但那22天的旅行讓小毛覺得腳架是萬萬不可缺的,記憶卡也要多帶,以防其中一張故障,那真的會氣死。

  除了照相器材外,這些裝備應該可以應付這次旅程,這會是一趟終生難忘的回憶,祝福derekslin兄玩的愉快喔。


攝影攝影攝影!
衣服方面我倒覺得不用擔心,想帶多少就帶多少,反正大多時候是放在車上,且有些旅館有洗衣服務,可以善用之~美國團的服務應不錯
Just reading your trip destinations, it looks like you will be taking various settings, scene, people or both. But what does "carry" means to you? carrying with you during the day or with your luggages? If possible and to reduce the risk, I would bring everything possible and carry what will be needed for the day. But definitely not 2 dSLRs though. The trip is to visit various locations on earth, good photos come in 2nd ----- Just my 2 cents.

Have a good time and do share those good photos with us......


ps. 話說01的數位相機綜合討論區不是只能勸敗相機嗎?
Derekslin
腳架如果大型的有困難,輕便型的建議如下:
derekslin wrote:
1. 腳架和外閃是『一定』要帶的: It has to fit inside the camera bag. The one you can put on the overhead bin. I doubt they will let me carry a tripod onboard. I will bring 580EX flash then....(恕刪)


花虎蘭 wrote:
我覺得這若是我的裝備,我會向鏡頭兩端極限去帶。
1Ds + 16-35 + 70-200,然後帶小型桌上型腳架或單腳。...(恕刪)



如同花兄所建議,可利用輕便型腳架依地形地物來利用,雖然用起來有些限制,但應急用用也還不錯。
建議一款486的窩建議的manfrotto 210B
http://www.486word.com/newpage30.htm


在photocafe裡有提到許多輕便腳架的資料,值得參考
網友phinex說該腳架新型號為345
"推薦 MANFROTTO 這支:
新的型號是 345 ,舊的型號是 210B。
收起來後可以放在包包裡面,一點也察覺不出他的存在... "
http://www.photocafe.club.tw/viewtopic.php?p=7761&sid=922b5d64a3deb59ef865835f6115cc36

負載可達2KG,NT$2K
http://www.chiuhua.com.tw/iEasy.asp?pKey=ch_post&Fn=pt_post.htm&Title=&Page=0&mDef=&For=iEasy&SerNo=4642
以上資料希望對你有幫助,並祝環球愉快、平安順利
在dpreview的canon討論區有出現過類似的問題 也是要環遊世界
不同的是那個版友要作的是長期旅行 包含兩個月非洲縱走這種幹法

回應中 沒有長期旅行過的人提出的建議會以裝備為主 建議要帶dslr及外閃腳架等等
而有些常常出外做一到三個月旅行的人則會建議盡量少帶 G7一隻220ex一個電池兩個就夠了
空出來的重量拿來裝水或是食物都不錯 不過如果有需要長焦照野生動物的話又是另外一回事

無論如何 帶台小隨身機絕對是必要的
I was busy ordering additional equipment online for the last 2 days plus last 2 days Austin has the worst weather in last 10 years. Everyone's house roof have been covered with ice. FedEX and UPS were not able to deliver my packages. It further delays my packing.

I did purchase Canon 50mm 1.2 L lens because of this trip.

I also bought a new tripod Gitzo GT530 tripod + Gitzo G0077 ballhead.

Hopefully I will recieve most of my equipments in next day or two.




小毛 wrote:

...(恕刪)


兩節式快乾褲兩條 1

保暖防水褲一條 1

防水褲一條 1

可拆兩件式防水外套一件 1 Gore-Tex jacket

可單穿羽絨保暖內裡外套一件 1 fleece 100 jacket, 1 primaloft one jacket

T-Shirt 式刷毛長袖一件 1 fleece long sleeve shirt

快乾衣短袖三件 4

襪子 4

防水球鞋 1

運動涼鞋一雙 still working on it

防水棒球帽一頂 one, but not basball cap style

多媒體硬碟一個 notebook +160gb portable hd + 10 blank dvds

萬國轉接頭一個 1 universal adapter with usb charge port

手持式GPS(紀錄位置,將來可以匯入相片EXIF中) Wintec WBT200 GPS Logger+ 1 extra battery

存有旅行資料的UMPC(小毛是用 Sony UX 17)一台或PDA Sony UX90

至少兩張像機可用的大容量記憶卡 2 x 8GB CF cards, 2 x 4GB SD cards, 2 x 4GB SDHC cards

太陽能充電器一個(Solio 不錯,但不能充電腦,可以充PDA) I don't think I am under sun that much. I will pass.


腳架是萬萬不可缺的 see above, Gitzo GT530, I hope this tripod is worth its price.




charles2859 wrote:
I would bring everything possible and carry what will be needed for the day. But definitely not 2 dSLRs though.......(恕刪)


I am using pacsafe as part of my security prevention within my big luggage. I have wrap up spare camera body inside and placed other valuables insid this lockable bag and hopefully it will stop people from looking through inside my luggage. Of course this is not 100% safe, I just want to make sure I have a second chance with a spare photo equipment.

I do understand I join this Around the World Tour to enjoy it myself and I plan to do that. But at same time, I want to be able to let my family to see what I see from my camcorder and camera. They get to enjoy this trip as well.

Thank you for reminding me not to forget the purpose of this trip.



I will see you all in about a month. Hopefully I will have plenty of photos to show everyone.


Derek
Austin, Texas



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