我用你自己的話回你：
在台灣，搞攝影藝術的真的很可憐，對外除了要面對苛刻的環境之外，對內還要面對不同小團體之間的鉤心鬥角，想想台灣也就不過這麼點大的小地方，而人與人之間的鬥爭卻是一點都不輸給別人。
propc7358 wrote:
power兄：
我用你自己的話回你：
在台灣，搞攝影藝術的真的很可憐，對外除了要面對苛刻的環境之外，對內還要面對不同小團體之間的鉤心鬥角，想想台灣也就不過這麼點大的小地方，而人與人之間的鬥爭卻是一點都不輸給別人。
你回錯人了
cklee wrote:
我的朋友Nike Ut 在1973年拿下普利茲新聞攝影獎，
剛認識他的時候根本不知道他是位大人物，他自己也從來不談英雄事，就生活話題新聞話題交流。
他沒有很高學歷但是有很崇高的思想跟社會關懷的心，直到時間久了透過同行告知才知道Nike是普利茲獎得主，當時真嚇了一跳，還特別找機會說明為了早期因為堵拍目標跟他卡位事情道歉。Nike 說他根本沒放心上，大家都為工作，就是想盡辦法交差，即使卡到相同位置每個人的自我思想也會決定不同的瞬間擷取最能表達真實故事的截面。
值得尊敬的前輩
建議樓主依您的才能考個律師執照總是比較有發展性，攝影或繪畫藝術是體會領悟的實踐，是一門身體力行的苦行修煉，並不是搞原理談科技就可成的，談原理搞科技是設備商出版商或商攝搞的事情，這跟藝術還有一段距離的。
你要在你自己的圈圈裡怎麼玩
那是你家的事
我管不著也懶得管
但是要跳到別人的圈圈裡指三道四的
那得先秤秤自己有沒有那個份量再說
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小葉叔叔 wrote:
powerslide大的思維
在幾次的討論串中見識過
完整卻又跳躍式的思維
實在令人...........跟不上
現在得獎的照片
不是要研究照片本身
而是得獎的這個~結果
而這個結果是乎跟台灣目前的某些主流價值
有所衝突
有衝突才好~~~
衝突之後才會有不同的觀點
藝術本身不是刻意去營造成藝術
而是不斷撞牆後剩下的殘渣
基本上在台灣傳統攝影界搞攝影的人
和Fine Art界搞攝影的人是二種完全不同的思維
前者搞的是沙龍
後者搞的是觀念
我無意批評哪種比較好或比較壞
但如果不清楚自己所站的位置在哪裡
而據此批評他人搞得不是藝術
那就有點以管窺天,野人獻曝了
2004 《所在》，台北美術獎，許哲瑜
2009《台灣「美景」》，台北美術獎，吳政璋
2009《天上人間》，台北美術獎，陳敬寶
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powerslide wrote:
此藝術非彼藝術我講的...(恕刪)
就一段維基內文跟你分享
Britannica Online defines art as "the use of skill and imagination in the creation of aesthetic objects, environments, or experiences that can be shared with others." By this definition of the word, artistic works have existed for almost as long as humankind: from early pre-historic art to contemporary art; however, some theories restrict the concept to modern Western societies.[8] The first and broadest sense of art is the one that has remained closest to the older Latin meaning, which roughly translates to "skill" or "craft." A few examples where this meaning proves very broad include artifact, artificial, artifice, medical arts, and military arts. However, there are many other colloquial uses of the word, all with some relation to its etymology.
20th-century Rwandan bottle. Artistic works may serve practical functions, in addition to their decorative value.
The second and more recent sense of the word art is as an abbreviation for creative art or fine art and emerged in the early 17th century.[9] Fine art means that a skill is being used to express the artist's creativity, or to engage the audience's aesthetic sensibilities, or to draw the audience towards consideration of the finer things.
Goethe defined art as an other resp. a second nature, according to his ideal of a style that be founded on the very basic fundaments of insight and on the innermost character of things.[10]
The word art can describe several things: a study of creative skill, a process of using the creative skill, a product of the creative skill, or the audience's experience with the creative skill. The creative arts (art as discipline) are a collection of disciplines (arts) that produce artworks (art as objects) that are compelled by a personal drive (art as activity) and echo or reflect a message, mood, or symbolism for the viewer to interpret (art as experience). Artworks can be defined by purposeful, creative interpretations of limitless concepts or ideas in order to communicate something to another person. They can be explicitly made for this purpose or interpreted on the basis of images or objects. Art is something that stimulates an individual's thoughts, emotions, beliefs, or ideas through the senses. It is also an expression of an idea and it can take many different forms and serve many different purposes. Although the application of scientific knowledge to derive a new scientific theory involves skill and results in the "creation" of something new, this represents science only and is not categorized as art.
Often, if the skill is being used in a common or practical way, people will consider it a craft instead of art. Likewise, if the skill is being used in a commercial or industrial way, it will be considered commercial art instead of fine art. On the other hand, crafts and design are sometimes considered applied art. Some art followers have argued that the difference between fine art and applied art has more to do with value judgments made about the art than any clear definitional difference.[11] However, even fine art often has goals beyond pure creativity and self-expression. The purpose of works of art may be to communicate ideas, such as in politically, spiritually, or philosophically motivated art; to create a sense of beauty (see aesthetics); to explore the nature of perception; for pleasure; or to generate strong emotions. The purpose may also be seemingly nonexistent.
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cklee wrote:
就一段維基內文跟你分...(恕刪)
先生您又在雞同鴨講了
Fine art or the fine arts encompass art forms developed primarily for aesthetics and/or concept rather than practical application.
Historically, the five greater fine arts were painting, sculpture, architecture, music and poetry, with minor arts including drama and dancing.[1] Today, the fine arts commonly include the visual art and performing art forms, such as painting, sculpture, collage, decollage, assemblage, installation, calligraphy, music, dance, theatre, architecture, film, photography, conceptual art, and printmaking. However, in some institutes of learning or in museums fine art, and frequently the term fine arts (pl.) as well, are associated exclusively with visual art forms.
Fine Art
你說的Art是應用美術,乃著重在技巧性與工藝性(就在你自己引的文章裡)
Traditionally, the term art was used to refer to any skill or mastery.
我說的Fine art是純美術,乃純粹為美學的觀點而創造的藝術
Fine art or the fine arts encompass art forms developed primarily for aesthetics and/or concept rather than practical application.
台北美術館為什麼要叫Taipei Fine Arts Museum
而不叫Taipei Arts Museum 即在於此
下次跟人討論前請先確定自己的理解是否正確
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