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kobe究竟有沒有超越過神(MJ)?

fque wrote:
'通常'偉大球員身...(恕刪)


拿五十歲後的DR J和JABBAR來說嘴?

體能會退步

身高會退步?

你說DR J是體能球

JABBAR對上DR J不是打體能球?

光站在那就高他一,二十公分

後衛過人是要動的,要投要跳的

年過五十還能這樣?

中鋒慢慢給你磨進去要什麼體能

站著你就勾不到球
若你是知道 Coach Smith's system 還這麼引用那段落
那還真是特別

所以我說你是否讀的不夠多?

Smith自己寫的帶隊哲學
"In basketball, a team game, no one is more important than a player's teammates," Smith wrote. "No one is more deserving of his respect."

Jordan自己說的話:
Michael Jordan, "Phil Jackson was lucky because I was taught the game by Dean Smith."

報導
April 1987, Medicine Hat (Alberta) News, “Bulls will always be competitive with Jordan” by Bob O’Donnell (Fort Worth Star-Telegram), pg. A14, col. 1:
Cynics say North Carolina’s Dean Smith had to be the best defensive coach in the United States because he was the only man capable of holding Michael Jordan under 20 points.

In three seasons at North Carolina, Jordan averaged 17.7 points, a respectable but not spectacular number. He won his only Atlantic Coast Conference scoring championship with a 19.6 mark.

24 January 1988, Greensboro (NC) News & Record, “Browning,” pg. B6, col. 1:
Jordan blossomed so much as a pro that there’s a saying prevalent in the NBA now that the only man who ever held Michael Jordan to less than 20 points a game was Dean Smith.

November 1990, The Orange County Register (Santa Ana, CA), “Strege: Heat on Westhead,” pg. D12, col. 6:
Purists prefer puppeteers, coaches who pull strings and refuse to relinquish control North Carolina’s Dean Smith is one. Smith is recalled as the only man to hold Michael Jordan to under 20 points. Enough said.

April 1993, Augusta (GA) Chronicle, “Smith makes point with second crown” by Blackie Sherrod, pg. C8, col. 2:
There is even sniping that Smith’s “system” style hobbles exceptional talent in favor of team concept. The old gag: Only one man can hold Michael Jordan under 25 points, and that man is Dean Smith.

回憶錄
Dazzled by the skills of a particular freshman, Cunningham predicted to Smith after the practice that the player – then known as Mike Jordan – would be the best player to ever wear a North Carolina uniform. “Dean got mad at me,” Cunningham recalled. “I tried to calm him down, saying, ‘Coach, it isn’t brain surgery. Look at him.’ Dean didn’t like that, though. To him, everybody was equal.”

Smith would famously not allow Jordan to appear on the 1981 Sports Illustrated basketball cover with the team’s other four starters, ostensibly because he wasn’t sure whether Jordan would be the fifth starter or not.


(Smith不同意讓大一的Jordan上運動畫刊封面)


書籍
Dean Smith:
A Tribute
By Ken Rosenthal
Champaign, IL: Sports Publishing
2001
Pg. 158:
Everything in the program was about team — eating, playing basketball, traveling. It was never about the individual. You’d hear the kidding about how the only person who could hold Michael Jordan down was Dean Smith.
Pg. 159:
But in reality, that’s what we all wanted to do in terms of coaching, making the team better.

以上只是舉幾個例子,在不同場合不同時間都有類似的資料或發言

兩段關於Dean Smith的影片
Dean Smith - Sportscentury

Michael Jordan Talks about Carolina Tar Heel Basketball
MOTO迷 wrote:
身為80年後出生的...(恕刪)


活塞的防守真是硬呀...









MOTO迷 wrote:身為80年後出生的小弟,沒有親眼見證過j...(恕刪)
感動是沒有

brotherneilss wrote:
90年代是喬登時代...(恕刪)


不好意思,稍微糾正一下
不是七連霸,而是八連霸!
因為喬丹身穿45號球衣回歸NBA的95年球季,季後賽敗給魔術隊加上退休打棒球的那年合計是2年
但全盛期的喬丹,豈是小小一個魔術隊所能抗衡
隔年馬上又三連霸
真的很可惜,少看94與95兩年喬丹精彩的表演
peng0120 wrote:
真的很可惜,少看94與95兩年喬丹精彩的表演...(恕刪)

其實我覺得,喬丹去打棒球後,再回nba拿下3連霸更顯的傳奇

fque wrote:
Kobe的絕對運動能力跟相對運動能力並沒有很突出
反而是更差

再來比身材也是輸
MJ比較壯
基本上中後期的MJ體重直逼225磅
扛他的後衛或小前鋒都沒有這種身材

MJ的動作看起來乾淨俐落游刃有餘
因為他體能高Kobe不只一級
MJ第二次復出也比NBA一半以上的後衛快
這就是天分
練不出來也學不來

如果Kobe有6'8 235磅的身材的話
那再來比也不遲
基本上他已經完全發揮天分
NBA有做到這種程度的球員兩隻手數的完


Jordan也沒有6'8 阿, Jordan和Kobe的身高都是6'6, 在NBA算是身材高的2號.

Kobe的運動能力沒有很突出? 基本上,能學Jordan的招式在NBA大殺四方的Kobe, 體能怎麼會沒有很突出!?

他年輕時, 也是速度快, 彈性絕佳的球員, NBA有這樣體能的還蠻少的.

相反的, Jordan 在 90年代 NBA, 那是防守強度很高的時代. Kobe 如果是在 90 年代, 他的成績還要再打折扣.



喬丹去打棒球後,再回nba拿下3連霸更顯的傳奇

真的 感覺很像看電影會有的劇情
重點是
有誰可以三進三出NBA啊
這種禮遇已經不只是一個重要的球員
而是NBA對他身分的尊敬了

猿猴 wrote:
喬丹去打棒球後,再...(恕刪)
兩人體能條件不會差太多
一對一單打我覺得喬丹會贏但不會差太多
但是論到成就喬丹已經無人能比 kobe被甩了好幾條街
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