How dose a person defeat community gang stalking? ~ Quora Discussion How dose a person defeat community gang stalking?
There’s a movie called The Babadook that I like a lot - it’s a horror movie, and a pretty darned good one, but its also a metaphor for living with guilt and pain.
There are some wounds - like an amputation - that go beyond superficial. They’re life-changing, and permanent. You can’t defeat that kind of loss, but you CAN learn to live with it and still enjoy your life (in many cases at least, not all).
Record their activities as much as possible. Wear digital audio recorders. Keep them in your house and car if you can afford it. Video everything if you can afford it.
But don’t go crazy. So much of what they do is subtle it’s DESIGNED to be easily deniable. But like a black hole, it isn’t about seeing the hole itself, but the effects around the black hole. You can’t send someone to jail for making “coincidental” remarks, but you CAN prove that there’s a pattern that goes beyond coincidence. You can prove that there IS a phenomenon at work that is directly linked to your behavior, or your online searches, journal entries, things you say in your car, etc.
If they know you’re stalking them back, essentially, they’ll back off a little. But at the end of the day, at least in my case, where the Mason cult is concerned, you’re talking about police, doctors, lawyers, store owners, judges, bartenders, fire department, and a lot of “respectable” people who are members of a kind of church not unlike Scientology. They’re big, they’re high on themselves, and they have enormous monetary and political power as a collective (individually, they might be driving beat-up jalopies, but “apes together strong” to quote a fairly recent sci-fi trilogy).
In my case they wanted to use their intrusive/ invasive powers to alter my behavior. Instead I amplified and exaggerated my behavior in order to “catch” them. I was successful, but I caught a tiger by the tail.
They encourage me to obey them or suffer, and as I won’t tolerate Fascism in the United States, I suffer on my terms, because feigning happiness to avoid their taunts and torments would be just as miserable I suspect, I just couldn’t show it. And worse, part of joining the gang is to perpetrate these cruel acts on others, another bridge too far for me.
So, in their secretive, easily deniable way, they ruin jobs, vehicles, computers, use toxins (like allergens and things that promote severe skin rashes), and they use the “mob mentality” where everyone’s doing it, so no one is guilty. They just don’t care. And even if they do, they’re terrified of having these things happen to them or their families. It’s VERY gangster on the inside, and Andy Griffith on the outside, perpetrated by hard-working people who have both credibility and deniability. The American nightmare.
But you can record them, you can prove a pattern exists the same way scientist have “proven” that black holes exist although to date, no one - not ONE scientist - has ever seen a black hole.
The tragedy of 9–11 went far beyond the war. We the People lost the country to the Mason cult, or New World Order. Like Scientology, it IS a cult, and it has a similar “attack any hint of slander” policy. It wields power over Presidents and politicians, and many of its members may have no experience with the darker elements of the core group. But if you’re too “different” for whatever reason - if you commit a crime or if you’re a POTENTIAL threat like a Muslim or fringe-fetishist or drug abuser - you could become a target.
I’ve been harassed for over 20 years now, with the last 10 being every unpleasant. I’ve been lucky in some ways though, and one way I’m lucky is that I haven’t given in yet. They could be (and have been) much worse, but I’m recording myself even now, and they generally don’t like it when you point out their fallibility.
They’re only human. They are NOT perfect. The system they use IS brilliant, however diabolically so, but they do NOT want to get caught, and if you’re clever, you can catch them, because they’re addicted to the power of it, and they can’t let it go.
Don’t let them ruin your sense of self-worth. Don’t blame yourself. I committed crimes to “out” them, and I’m confident that I’ve PAID MY DEBT TO SOCIETY IN FULL (and actually have a long line of credit established at this point), but they don’t want balance or justice or fairness, they want obedience and dominance. Don’t give it to them. Be happy. Take steps to protect yourself, and then ignore them as much as possible.
Ideally, targeted individuals would unify and fight back monetarily, politically, etc., but in the digital age that is tremendously difficult, and the FBI and other such agencies have a long history and a LOT of experience breaking up activist groups by infiltration, making them look bad by turning violent during a rally, I get a LOT of nonsensical responses online - they can rewrite your posts, or intercept someone else’s so you get the information they want you to receive - it can feel very much like an episode of Mission: Impossible (with you in the role of the bad guy/ dupe/ target).
So that’s the bad news. It’s Pax Americana, and for the foreseeable future, it’s permanent. The New World Order is online, and it’s Orwellian. The People like me got high, didn’t vote enough, didn’t participate, and let these aggressive a-holes take over. I deeply regret that, and I apologize to my fellow citizens, but that’s ALSO why I’m speaking out about it here and now. THAT may be a debt I can never repay.
I would be a liability to any group attempting to fight back because of my criminal history (although I’ve never been arrested, read Miranda, or been given a fair trial - although they frequently threaten to frame me, lock me up, and have me raped and or killed, and I’ve read about them doing this to others).
But the good news is, I still have great days. I can read a book. I can go for long walks. I can’t get great jobs, but I can get jobs, and although they’re organized on a computer that I have no control over, and end up surrounded by the little weasels on every new gig, which repeats history by having a decent-enough first day, then the nightmare starts, and I do whatever I must to endure it, and go home and do whatever I must to reduce all the stress they’ve caused.
Have a sense of humor. The worst time of my life was when I WASN’T SURE it was really happening, and felt crazy. I lost my sense of humor, and was simply NOT myself. I have since proven that this is real, and I know who’s doing it. It just sucks because its cops, and doctors, and lawyers, and governors, and Presidents, and a lot of hard-working, family-oriented “decent” people. They just choose to do this vigilante crap on the side and they’ll suffer the same if they don’t participate, which sucks. Even the police are afraid to “fight the power”. And a lot of them seem to get off on it. Like any gang, some are born for it, some are simply born into it. I was the latter, and I’m being ostracized because of it.
Maybe someday I’ll learn and discover the joys of abusing the ignorant masses (at least the ones the cult says DESERVE this kind of treatment), but until then, I’m addicted to seeing the bright side, and the best news of all is that nothing lasts forever.
Learn to live with it, is what I’m saying. Don’t hurt yourself or anyone else. That’s the fundamental starting point. Don’t hate yourself too much either. It’s NORMAL to go crazy under insane circumstances. But try not to be one of these poor devils driven to mass shootings and whatnot. Don’t lash out and end up in prison. Learn about John Quincey Adams, Giordano Bruno, and everyone who’s ever stood up to power. It’s a hard road, but it helps when you realize that they aren’t giving you a choice - it’s not your fault, even if you made major errors in life. This is THEIR choice, their madness, their delusion of moral superiority. I don’t envy anyone who’s going through this, but choose not to perpetuate the madness, that’s about all you can do. The justice system is horribly rigged, and this is all a horrific mutation of something that was probably designed, once upon a time, to correct injustice. It’s going too far now. It has become the power it once despised. The Masons started out secretly trying to divest the state (of royalty) from the divinity of the church. They were instrumental in starting the French and American Revolutions. As a collective, they can and have achieved some truly great things - chances are, you LOVE their movies, music, athletes, but just don’t know it. But like the Christians or any group that rises to power, they’re no better equipped to reject the corruption that is inevitable. They’re above the law - they ARE the law in some cases - and proud of it. Like Col. Jessup in A Few Good Men, they’re often genuinely good people who have simply gotten used to being the ultimate authority, and they can no longer tolerate dissent.
All we can do is make a record, tell our stories, and hope they don’t hit the “delete” key. Maybe someday we’ll even be able to connect and form our own “targeted” communities. But you defeat them by existing peacefully, and as happily as possible in spite of their daily efforts to ruin your life. Sometimes they’ll win, sometimes not so much. I wish I could give better advice, but I’m hip-deep in them, if not completely overrun. I was born into the Mason cult, spent my 20’s wondering why things happened the way they did, spent my 30’s proving that SOMETHING was amiss, and now I’m in my 40’s trying to survive this ugly, secret truth about my friends, family, and authority figures in my community. Where I’m concerned (and where other targeted individuals are concerned) they thrive on fighting us and creating needless conflict. I do not thrive on conflict. But I have no choice in the matter. I disagree with what they’re doing on some levels.
They’re here, and they’re going to hurt me as much as possible for rejecting them, and exposing them the way I did, and am continuing to do right now (for them, keeping the secret is more important than doing the right thing). It makes me grateful for EVERY good thing, no matter how insignificant. And despite all their efforts, I still find so much that’s good in the universe. It makes them look like the petty, grade-school bullies they ultimately are. For all my hardships and torments, I can’t help but pity them.
Stay sane as much as possible, find some measure of happiness somehow (for me its video games, movies, writing, ESCAPING into the endless expanse of my mind, letting go of material dreams). Be good to yourself, make a record, and tell others. Grow stronger. Endure. And when the situation is so nuts you can’t help but go mad - don’t hate yourself - it’s NORMAL.