esthetica wrote:
我是說綠電 不是再生能源
實際上國際上並沒有綠電這個詞
你口裡的綠電，英文翻譯是啥?
esthetica wrote:
不然一發電就沒了 不就浪費掉
於是儲能就變獨立的一項
沒有多發任何一度電
allen_yeh wrote:
國際上談的都是 renewable...(恕刪)
如果不包含儲能
那法條為什麼要獨立一項
只能說你想強調不是
就覺得很可疑了
難道你覺得儲能來源
都是火力發電來的嗎
會不會太直線思維了
allen_yeh wrote:
你同事又沒交接好嗎？...(恕刪)
看來你正在迴圈了
我只是順著你貼的定義敘述
來表示儲能是一個獨立項目
如果儲能不是再生能源的調節手段
那市面上的廠商
還有各種法規可以收起來
既然你舉例了 那我就貼它的文章
What is the role of energy storage in clean energy transitions?
The Net Zero Emissions by 2050 Scenario envisions both the massive deployment of variable renewables like solar PV and wind power and a large increase in overall electricity demand as more end uses are electrified. Grid-scale storage, particularly batteries, will be essential to manage the impact on the power grid and handle the hourly and seasonal variations in renewable electricity output while keeping grids stable and reliable in the face of growing demand.
esthetica wrote:
儲能做為再生能源的延續手段
也是你容不下眼的嗎
難道吸取再生能源
放出來就不算再生能源？
我不懂你邏輯是卡在哪裡
用你的邏輯，儲能用再生能源儲的電力叫做再生能源，
那儲能不就得分再生能源儲能與非再生能源儲能?
我才不懂你邏輯到底卡在哪裡~~~
在台灣，1986年的的儲能，有用到再生能源嗎?
esthetica wrote:
看來你正在迴圈了
一直跳圈的是你
儲能我可沒說是個獨立項目，正常人會說儲能不屬於再生能源
這裡大概除了LKK77那垃圾網軍跟你，一直要儲能放進去再生能源(抑或是你自己定義出來的Green Energy )
esthetica wrote:
然而 在夜間的綠能
無非就是風力 水力以外
就是儲能了 也就是電池
這不就是你自己硬把儲能塞進去再生能源
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這麼喜歡被洗臉 這麼喜歡無窮迴圈 那就直接貼政府的定義
連蔡英文政府都沒有承認你自創的Green Enery
再生能源==> renewable energy ， 不是綠能，更不是你掰出來的 green energy
法條有23條 貼前面部分就好
法規名稱： 再生能源發展條例
Title： Renewable Energy Development Act
修正日期： 民國 112 年 06 月 21 日
Amended Date： 2023-06-21
第 1 條
為推廣再生能源利用，增進能源多元化，改善能源結構，降低溫室氣體排放，改善環境品質，帶動相關產業及增進國家永續發展，特制定本條例。
Article 1
For purposes of encouraging renewable energy use, promoting energy diversification, improving energy structure, reducing emission of greenhouse gases, improving environmental quality, assisting relevant industries, and enhancing sustainable development of the country, this Act is specially formulated.
第 2 條
本條例所稱主管機關：在中央為經濟部；在直轄市為直轄市政府；在縣（市）為縣（市）政府。
Article 2
The competent authorities referred to in this Act are: the Ministry of Economic Affairs at the central level; the municipal governments at the municipal level; the county (city) governments at the county (city) level.
第 3 條
本條例用詞，定義如下：
一、再生能源：指太陽能、生質能、地熱能、海洋能、風力、非抽蓄式水力、國內一般廢棄物與一般事業廢棄物等直接利用或經處理所產生之能源，或其他經中央主管機關認定可永續利用之能源。
二、生質能：指農林植物、沼氣及國內有機廢棄物直接利用或經處理所產生之能源。
三、地熱能：指源自地表以下蘊含於土壤、岩石、蒸氣或溫泉之能源。
四、海洋能：指海洋溫差能、波浪能、海流能、潮汐能、鹽差能等能源。
五、風力發電：指轉換風能為電能之發電方式。
六、離岸風力發電：指設置於低潮線以外海域，轉換風能為電能之發電方式。
七、小水力發電：指利用水道、圳路、管渠或其他水力用水以外用途之水利建造物之原有水量及落差，以直接設置或另設旁通水路設置之方式，轉換非抽蓄式水力為電能，且裝置容量未達二萬瓩之發電方式。
八、氫能：指以再生能源為能量來源，分解水產生之氫氣，或利用細菌、藻類等生物之分解或發酵作用所產生之氫氣，或其他以再生能源為能量來源所產生之氫氣，供做為能源用途者。
九、燃料電池：指藉由氫氣及氧氣產生電化學反應，而將化學能轉換為電能之裝置。
十、再生能源熱利用：指再生能源之利用型態非屬發電，而屬熱能或燃料使用者。
十一、再生能源發電設備：指除直接燃燒廢棄物之發電設備及非小水力發電之水力發電設備外，申請主管機關認定，符合依第四條第四項所定辦法規定之發電設備。
十二、迴避成本：指電業自行產出或向其他來源購入非再生能源電能之年平均成本。
十三、再生能源憑證：指核發單位辦理再生能源發電設備查核及發電量查證後所核發之憑證。
十四、儲能設備：指儲存電能並穩定電力系統之設備，包含儲能組件、電力轉換及電能管理系統等。
2 前項第六款離岸風力發電設置範圍所定低潮線，由中央主管機關公告之。
Article 3
Definitions of terms used in the Act:
1. Renewable energy: Refers to solar energy, biomass energy, geothermal energy, ocean energy, wind energy, non-pumped storage hydroelectric power, energy generated by direct use or treatment of domestic general waste and general industrial waste, or other energy approved for sustainable use by the central competent authority.
2. Biomass energy: Refers to energy generated from direct use or treatment of vegetation, marsh gas, and domestic organic waste.
3. Geothermal energy: Refers to energy from soil, rock, steam or hot spring below the natural surface of the earth.
4. Ocean energy: Refers to energy generated from the temperature difference between waters, sea waves, ocean currents, tides, salinity gradient, or other sources.
5. Wind power system: Refers to energy generated from wind power is converted into electricity.
6. Offshore wind power system: Refers to energy generated from wind power is converted into electricity with offshore wind farm installed in waters outside the subtidal line.
7. Small hydropower: Refers to a power generation method that converts non-pumped storage hydroelectricity by using the original water volume and drop difference of waterways, ditches, pipelines or other hydraulic structures for purposes other than hydraulic water use, by directly installing or setting up bypass waterways, and the installed capacity is less than 20,000 kilowatts.
8. Hydrogen energy: Refers to energy generated from hydrogen produced from decomposing water, from bacteria or algae decomposition or fermentation, or from other sources of renewable energies for the purpose of energy use.
9. Fuel cell: Refers to a device that converts chemical energy generated by electrochemical reaction from hydrogen and oxygen into electric energy.
10. Heat utilization of renewable energy: Refers to utilization of energy by heat or fuel instead of power generation.
11. Renewable energy power generation equipment: Refers to renewable energy power generation equipment ratified by the central competent authority pursuant to regulations under Paragraph 4 of Article 4 except for facilities of non-small hydropower facilities generating energy from burning waste directly.
12. Avoided cost: Refers to the average yearly cost of self-generating or purchasing non-renewable energy power from other suppliers.
13. Renewable energy certificates (RECs): Refers to a certificate issued after the issuing authority conducts verification of renewable energy power generation facilities and their capacity.
14. Energy Storage equipment: Refers to a equipment for power storage and power maintenance, including storage units, power conversion facilities, and power management systems.
The subtidal line of offshore wind power system prescribed in Subparagraph 6 in the preceding paragraph shall be announced by the central competent authority.
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