【影片】美情報界警告：華為手機不安全 (包括中興)

miy56789 wrote:
所以就是有替代方案, 例如, 你懷疑, 好, 你不用蘋果電腦, 不用微軟, 你能選LINUX, 這就是和中國不同的地方, 不給你選擇權
...(恕刪)

miy56789 wrote:
我家也有後門呀, 但...(恕刪)

ltelung wrote:
有人幫世界級流氓美帝...(恕刪)

smallbeetw wrote:
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National security letter

A national security letter (NSL) is an administrative subpoena issued by the United States government to gather information for national security purposes.[citation needed] NSLs do not require prior approval from a judge.
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NSLs typically contain a nondisclosure requirement forbidding the recipient of an NSL from disclosing that the FBI had requested the information.[2]
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Lavabit

Lavabit is an open-source encrypted webmail service, founded in 2004. The service suspended its operations on August 8, 2013 after the U.S. Federal Government ordered it to turn over its Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) private keys, in order to allow the government to spy on Edward Snowden's email.[2][3][4][5]
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On August 8, 2013, Lavabit suspended its operations, and the email service log-in page was replaced by a message from the owner and operator Ladar Levison.[2] The New Yorker suggested that the suspension might be related to the US National Security Agency’s "domestic-surveillance practices".[19] Wired speculated that Levison was fighting a warrant or national security letter seeking customer information under extraordinary circumstances, as Lavabit had complied with at least one routine search warrant in the past.[16][20]
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And, more...
Google: Truecrypt national security letter

miy56789 wrote:
人家是在講哪幾個知名國際公司還現存的參與國家政府做審查, 你給這個已關的例子......(恕刪)

smallbeetw wrote:
你先了解什麼是 NSL 再來講其他的, 你會相信那些大公司的聲明就證明你完全不了解這整件事情怎麼運作. 你也完全不知道 Truecrypt 的例子有多麼嚴重. 否則不會有很多開源軟體開發者會發出澄清聲明... 對於這樣嚴重的例子都可以輕忽, 還妄言人權?

既然完全不了解也不願意了解, 那也不值得浪費時間多做回應...

miy56789 wrote:
所以就是有替代方案, 例如, 你懷疑, 好, 你不用蘋果電腦, 不用微軟, 你能選LINUX, 這就是和中國不同的地方, 不給你選擇權
...(恕刪)

smallbeetw wrote:
你扯到了 Linux 就不能不回了. 首先, Linux kernel 的創造者 Linus Torvalds 是芬蘭人, 跟老美壓根沒關係. 你這個所謂的選擇權是芬蘭人給的. 不是老美.

至於中國大陸, 他們不但使用 Linux, 而且大量貢獻! 大陸大量貢獻 Linux 的原因就在於它是開源軟體可以避免很多安全問題. Linux 最重要的就是 Linux kernel. 這幾年華人的貢獻度不斷增加, 尤其是大陸開發者崛起. 排除未知貢獻者目前排第三位:

http://remword.com/kps_result/all_whole_country.html

No.1 Unknown 194963(28.47%)
No.2 American 88879(12.98%)
No.3 German 68883(10.06%)
No.4 Chinese 48806(7.13%)
No.5 English 39373(5.75%)
No.6 Indian 24571(3.59%)
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還有去年 Linux Foundation 的開發者報告:
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/2017-linux-kernel-report-landing-page/

請查 Huawei, 可以看到它的貢獻度在前二十名內. 還有新開發者的投入也是前三名... Huawei 也是 Linux Foundation 的委員會成員:

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/huawei-deepens-its-investment-in-linux-and-open-source-software-with-linux-foundation-platinum-membership/
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As a Platinum member of The Linux Foundation, Huawei will gain a seat on the Board of Directors and help guide the organization as the role of open source and collaboration increases in building new technologies. The company joins other Platinum members represented on the board that include Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Intel, NEC, Oracle, Qualcomm and Samsung.
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所以反而中國大陸是重度使用而且大量貢獻 Linux 的國家. 現在全球跑的 server 都有他們寫的程式碼.

你好奇的話可以再找找 Linux Foundation 的年度報告. 裏面有沒有台灣公司? TSMC, Asus, Acer, HTC...

miy56789 wrote:
我家也有後門呀, 但是讓你走出去不用擔心地口哨

您們就繼續為專制解脫辯解吧, 又不是我在用中國牌子手機幫不了你 ...(恕刪)

miy56789 wrote:
討論這麼多, 就是有讓人有一種, 對呀, 你美國能當壞人, 我中國也能當壞人的感覺, 比爛, 比誰監控多
怎麼不去比如何比美國網路自由? 中國比不了嘛

miy56789 wrote:
若有中国解放军报导的...(恕刪)