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東風21D想打美國航母?先突破美軍的電子干擾系統再說

先不提EA-18G咆嘯者電戰機的電子干擾,光是美國海軍的Nulka主動式誘餌 ,東風21D可能就會被騙到去打海了
2016-07-18 16:45 發佈
伊朗已經突破了

老美軍火廣告別當真




hn1271n wrote:
先不提EA-18G咆嘯者電戰機的電子干擾,光是美國海軍的Nulka主動式誘餌 ,東風21D可能就會被騙到去打海了


航母是世界最大的武器,行動緩慢。
遠遠就看到這隻笨重的大象,
不用雷達鎖定追蹤,
紅外線甚至光學辨識就夠用了,

電子誘餌,在攻航母飛彈,不會有效。

在公海上跑
只要不貼在身上
誰都沒辦法

如果再戰時
這種無人機
戰機從邊邊飛過去
就會掉下來了
麻煩點機砲打就夠了

真是好笑

冷泉水 wrote:
如果再戰時
這種無人機
戰機從邊邊飛過去
就會掉下來了
麻煩點機砲打就夠了
真是好笑


以色列境內發現無人機,用兩顆愛國者飛彈,F16發射飛彈攔截。
3顆飛彈,沒打中。
以色列跟美國現在可能是笑不大出來。

Lei123 wrote:
以色列境內發現無人...(恕刪)

後續有篇文章

哪位高人能正確翻譯

http://www.debka.com/article/25556/Intruding-drone-likely-Russian-IDF-not-notified

Shrapnel from Ptriot missile
On June 16, the IDF announced the start of a three-day military exercise the following day.
As it began after 17:00pm on June 17, an unidentified UMV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle) crossed in from Syria and flew over the Israeli Golan and Upper Galilee for nearly an hour. The small craft had every opportunity to photograph and collect intelligence information on most of the IDF units taking part in the drill and their intelligence resources and beam them back to its operators in Syria.
The IDF hastened to state that the aircraft had been locked into Air Force surveillance all this time and was targeted by three missiles, two Patriot anti-air projectiles and an air-to-air missile of undisclosed type.
They all missed.

This is not surprising: using such missiles to down a UMV is like directing a heavy missile destroyer to swat a small shark. Its chances of hitting a tiny target are close to zero.

debkafile’s military sources say that the use of missiles seems to indicate that someone in the IDF chain of command decided, after losing hope of hitting the intruder, to produce a big bang to frighten it off.
It has to be assumed that the Russian radar systems deployed in Syria spotted and tracked the episode. The Russians must have taken note of the UMV crossing from Syria into Israeli air space and the length of time it was free to linger over the Upper Galilee. They were certainly aware that three Israeli missiles failed to hit their target.
As far as we know, none of the Russian-Israeli coordination mechanisms in place for coordinating their aerial activity over Syria was activated. The Russian command did not warn Israel that an alien UMV was on course to cross its border or offer to help capture it once it returned to Syria.
In other words, the Russians must have known what was going on, as well as the identity of the drone, but kept quiet and let it happen.
This raises the possibility that the UMV was Russian.
This likelihood must be taken into account in the light of another event: just two days earlier, a covert agreement on aerial cooperation between the US and Russia in the Syrian arena was concluded in Moscow by US Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.
debkafile’s intelligence sources analysis commented then: “Direct intelligence cooperation in Syria between the two powers will make the Israeli intelligence system in Syria redundant and weaken its sources and standing.” The UMV episode Sunday demonstrates that the Moscow deal has gone into effect. It is now up to Israel’s military chiefs to take the new reality on board and start adapting.
意思是說,以色列當自強。
本來就打不到航母的東西 費勁去干擾它幹嘛

我搞不懂樓主在想啥?

Lei123 wrote:
航母是世界最大的武器,行動緩慢。
遠遠就看到這隻笨重的大象,
不用雷達鎖定追蹤,
紅外線甚至光學辨識就夠用了


你這段話前面是對的~ 航母很大 看起來很大~

後面的實務部份是錯的~


雷達/紅外線鎖定/光學辨識~

都有被電戰干擾可能~ 就像美國無人機會被"比己方更近的伊朗"干擾一樣~
同樣道理 你發射電波控管的能量 "絕對"不可能比近在咫尺的美軍更強~

航艦在雷達上 不見得是"最大的光點" 而是一群光點裡的一個~
別把雷達當神了~
或是根本就辨識不出"真的的航艦"~

這也是為什麼 戰機鎖定敵機 需要射控雷達持續不斷照明目標~
可是戰機射控雷達的性能跟有效距離 豈是小小彈道飛彈可比?

要知道當年蘇聯打算用大批反艦飛彈狼群戰術攻擊美國~
必須準備一台Tu-16"自殺機"強行衝入美國航艦群~
幹什麼? 當然是鑑別目標~ 否則反艦飛彈極可能打錯正確目標~

今天中國解放軍攻航艦最大問題 就是如何找到及導引攻擊航母~
解決辦法"講起來"超簡單 什麼GPS 衛星 尋標器組合起來上了便是~
但是沒在戰場上用過 就這麼認為可以 還真是大膽甚至近乎無知~

真正動武時 老美是不可能放著你低飛衛星在戰場上監控它~
標三或戰機飛彈要打低飛衛星是小菜一碟 你在什麼地方美國怎不知?
當老美比你多N倍的衛星都混飯吃 還是你已經比F-22還能隱形?

中國的偵查及導控手段 基本上都沒超過過去蘇聯 要怎打中一艘空母?
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