YC_Jiang wrote:
老兄: 美國自己的F...(恕刪)
1.美國的F16A/B太過老舊，發動機並沒有升級的需要，因為飛機壽命已經到了晚期，事實上美軍也根本沒打算升級F16A/B的發動機。
2.美國的F16C/D發動機升級很容易，不需要大改機身，原因上面我已經說得很清楚了
3.這個基於F16A/B前機身與飛控的發動機升級方案是給台灣的，不是給美軍的，不存在把美軍當猴耍。
tpfn wrote:
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WASHINGTON, September 21, 2011 -- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress today of
a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the United States
of retrofitting of F-16A/B aircraft and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an
estimated cost of $5.3 billion.
The Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the United States has requested a retrofit of 145 F16A/B
aircraft that includes sale of: 176 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars; 176 Embedded
Global Positioning System Inertial Navigation Systems; 176 ALQ-213 Electronic Warfare Management
systems; upgrade 82 ALQ-184 Electronic Countermeasures (ECM) pods to incorporate Digital Radio
Frequency Memory (DRFM) technology or purchase new ECM pods (AN/ALQ-211(V)9 Airborne Integrated
Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites (AIDEWS) with DRFM, or AN/ALQ-131 pods with DRFM); 86 tactical
data link terminals; upgrade 28 electro-optical infrared targeting Sharpshooter pods; 26 AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER
Targeting Systems or AN/AAQ-28 LITENING Targeting Systems; 128 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems;
128 Night Vision Goggles; 140 AIM-9X SIDEWINDER Missiles; 56 AIM-9X Captive Air Training Missiles; 5
AIM-9X Telemetry kits; 16 GBU-31V1 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs) kits; 80 GBU-38 JDAM kits;
Dual Mode/ Global Positioning System Laser-Guided Bombs (16 GBU-10 Enhanced PAVEWAY II or GBU56
Laser JDAM, 80 GBU-12 Enhanced PAVEWAY II or GBU-54 Laser JDAM, 16 GBU-24 Enhanced
PAVEWAY III); 64 CBU-105 Sensor Fused Weapons with Wind-Corrected Munition Dispensers (WDMD);
153 LAU-129 Launchers with missile interface; upgrade of 158 APX-113 Advanced Identification Friend or
Foe Combined Interrogator Transponders; and HAVE GLASS II applications. Also included are: ammunition,
alternate mission equipment, engineering and design study on replacing existing F100-PW-220 engines with
F100-PW-229 engines, update of Modular Mission Computers, cockpit multifunction displays, communication
equipment, Joint Mission Planning Systems, maintenance, construction, repair and return, aircraft tanker
support, aircraft ferry services, aircraft and ground support equipment, spare and repair parts, publications and
technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor
engineering, technical, and logistics support, test equipment, site surveys, and other related elements of logistics
support. The estimated cost is $5.3 billion.
This sale is consistent with United States law and policy as expressed in Public Law 96-8.
This proposed sale serves U.S. national, economic, and security interests by supporting the recipient’s
continuing efforts to modernize its armed forces and enhance its defensive capability. The proposed sale will
help improve the security of the recipient and assist in maintaining political stability, military balance, and
economic progress in the region.
自己看吧
美國開出來的報價單與內容就包括F100-PW-229了
總計約53億美金
台灣F-16V最後選重要的雷達與減少飛彈採購
共計約40億美金
算一算換引擎要多花8~9億美金
話說你看過那幾個國家幫F-16換新一代引擎的??
又不是飛機飛不起來,或是錢太多沒地方花
以F-16的引擎耐用度,飛到退役都沒問題
看看那俄羅斯與不太行系列真是耐用
tpfn wrote:
這裡很明確的指出了批次20因為進氣口直徑較小無法滿足229的所需的進氣流量
難道修改軟體還能增大F16戰機固定進氣口的直徑？厲害厲害，佩服佩服，這種軟體全世界一定只有你能開發出來，美軍一定花大錢向你買大笑100分100分
不要再鬼扯了。。。。。。
Block52和Block5進氣口是一樣大的。。。。。
Block52
Block5
根據洛克希德馬丁公司新聞稿
美國國民警衛隊的block42引擎
從F100-PW-220換成F100-PW-229
只需要4個人4天的單班,就能完成工作並作系統檢查
Block 40之前的F-16都是類比飛控,你們家除了Su-35之外的Su-27/30家族全部都是類比的
原來全部都沒有放寬靜穩定性,是2代雞啊？？？
線傳飛控數位跟類比你真的搞得清嗎,不懂裝懂,張嘴就來
tpfn wrote:
我還有什麼話可說呢？我懂得衰弱台灣之所以默無聲息的緣由了。。。
樓上列的可換發動機圖表全是BLOCK25之後的，而你們的是BLOCK20，所以，你們開心就好。。。
沒營養的P話一堆
1.維基百科上很明確的指出了F16A/B和F16C/D的進氣口不同且F16A/B進氣口直徑較小，但你用你的眼神欽定了F16A/B和F16C/D的進氣口是一樣的。行，你開心就好
2.BLOCK42是F16C/D，換發當然很容易，我早就在前面說過
3.《你們家除了Su-35之外的Su-27/30家族全部都是類比的，原來全部都沒有放寬靜穩定性,是2代雞啊》
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缺乏常識，類比線傳飛控是早期三代機的標配，2代機的標配是機械增壓飛控，事實上甚至部分早期的三代機如F15和米格29還在采用機械增壓。
你又在強詞奪理，類比飛控不代表不能放寬靜穩定性，實際上F16就是一款以放寬靜穩定性著名的戰機，但數字飛控進一步提高了放寬靜穩定性的程度。采用數字電傳的F16C/D能夠通過放寬靜穩定性避免配重並不代表采用類比電傳的F16A/B及台灣F16也能安全的做到
4.最後這個圖不知道你想說明什麼？是想說明采用PW發動機的F16ABCD進氣道都是NSI構型所以所有采用PW發動機的F16ABCD進氣道都完全一樣？那J20和F35采用的進氣道構型都是DSI那麼J20和F35的進氣道也完全一樣？
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