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美軍特種部隊配置的手槍是???


Mike Wang wrote:
我這兩年出差到美國,...(恕刪)

海豹部隊 P226手槍海軍型

j815062 wrote:
所以我們會聽到激烈駁...(恕刪)


隊員C: 哈哈哈~我的武器是軍刀沒有子彈消耗的問題

況且現代戰場短槍使用機率根本低到趨近0,
看到伊拉克戰爭難道還沒看出什麼所以然嗎?
麻煩有興趣可以去goo一下步,機槍子彈消耗情況,
一般野戰部隊帶的短槍大都拍照用而已,
部隊配給14發短槍子彈,用完也沒得補,
這樣帶什麼短槍有差別?
樓上幾位不知道是遊戲玩太多還是活在自己的世界裡,
當子彈無限,還是14發子彈可以打死14個敵人,
上戰場有步槍機槍使用,一直想著短槍做啥?
按照最佳情況使用p226確實非常好,
不過現實情況全世界各國的各類子彈備用量極低,
當年的伊拉克戰爭,美國跟英國都需要去跟其他國家調步機槍子彈了,

pvp1232001 wrote:
況且現代戰場短槍使用...(恕刪)

您提到:
"另外一提沙漠之鷹握把非常大,老美喜歡大size也不是一天兩天的事情了"
"但是老美倒是都非常喜歡沙漠之鷹的握把,為了美國人而生的一把槍.."

可否請您先為小弟我解惑這個問題:
"老美喜歡什麼都要大?
那所謂的"公部門笑話 Mk-23"是怎麼回事?
它很大阿
為什麼專為特戰人員設計的,卻大家都不愛?
可以請你提出解釋嗎?
"
手槍在戰場的用途 本就有限 屬於自衛備用武器 不是步兵主要武器
雖說如此 但是帶錯手槍 對戰力還是有影響 所以不能輕忽

p226目前提供給歐美各國”9成“以上特勤人員使用


我是吸哥粉絲 但這一點 我也質疑
煩請提供資料來源


pvp1232001 wrote:
一般野戰部隊帶的短槍大都拍照用而已,
部隊配給14發短槍子彈,用完也沒得補,
這樣帶什麼短槍有差別?
樓上幾位不知道是遊戲玩太多還是活在自己的世界裡,
當子彈無限,還是14發子彈可以打死14個敵人,
上戰場有步槍機槍使用,一直想著短槍做啥?
按照最佳情況使用p226確實非常好,
不過現實情況全世界各國的各類子彈備用量極低,
當年的伊拉克戰爭,美國跟英國都需要去跟其他國家調步機槍子彈了,...(恕刪)


14发子弹连M9的一个弹夹都装不满,不知道你这个传说又是从何而来?
我来摘录一些American Sniper里的片段

Pistol
The standard SEAL-issued pistol was a SIG Sauer P226, chambered for 9-mm ammo. While that is an excellent weapon, I felt I needed more knockdown power than nine millimeters could provide, and later started carrying my own personal weapon in place of the P226. Let’s face it—if you’re using a pistol in combat, the shxt has already hit the fan. You may not have the time for perfect shot placement. The bigger rounds may not kill your enemy, but they’re more likely to put him down when you hit him.

In 2004, I brought over a Springfield TRP Operator, which used a .45-caliber round. It had a 1911 body style, with custom grips and a rail system that let me add a light and laser combo. Black, it had a bull barrel and was an excellent gun—until it took a frag for me in Fallujah.

I was actually able to get it repaired—those Springfields are tough. Still, not wanting to press my luck, I replaced it with a SIG P220. The P220 looked pretty much exactly like the P226, but was chambered for .45 caliber.

Carrying My Pistol

On my first two deployments, I had a drop-leg holster. (A drop-leg sits against the upper thigh, within easy reach of the pistol hand.) The problem with that type of holster is that it tends to move around. During combat, or even if you’re simply bouncing around, the rig slides over on your leg. So after the first two deployments, I went to a hip holster. That way, my gun was always where I expected it to be.

关于弹药

I would stick my M-4 and ten mags (three hundred rounds) in the front compartments of my web gear. I would also have my radio, some lights, and my strobe in those pockets. (The strobe can be used at night for rendezvousing with other units or aircraft, ships, boats, whatever. It also can be used to identify friendly troops.)

If I had one of my sniper rifles with me, I would have some two hundred rounds in my backpack. When I carried the Mk-11 instead of the Win Mag or .338, then I wouldn’t bother carrying the M-4. In that case, the sniper rounds would be in my web gear, closer at hand. Rounding out my ammo were three mags for my pistol.

I wore Merrill high-top hiking boots. They were comfortable and held up to the deployment.
EOSyu wrote:
請問一下大大們~~美...(恕刪)

EOSyu wrote:
請問一下大大們~~美...(恕刪)

j815062 wrote:
您提到:"另外一提沙...(恕刪)


那我可不可以拿hellsing裡面阿卡特拿的槍

一般子彈啟封後保存期限只有一年,
還要配給各單位使用,還需要保持戰備彈藥充足,
回歸正題,當初在香港討論區說很大的伊拉克戰爭用光60億發子彈,
短短三年間,短槍子彈約消耗不到1萬發,
還不了解現代戰爭嗎? 美國走的是火力壓制取勝,
三年1000多個日子中每天需要擊發500多萬發子彈,
根據我兩個從阿富汗回來的朋友說,步槍跟機槍子彈接近無限狀態,
槍壞了就換,子彈每隔幾天就會大補一次,
唯獨短槍子彈缺的很,打戰還有個重要環節,原物料,
要在短期內製作大量子彈是不可能的事,
只能選擇比較優先項目製作而已,
當初美國是跟日本及台灣調步,機槍子彈,
英國則是跟法國德國調,怎麼不調短槍子彈?
大家都拿步槍跟機槍,一分鐘隨便都打幾百發子彈了,
敵人滿多都拿ak,短槍效益在哪裡?
給敵人一個槍眼自己身上搞不好多幾十個槍眼,
還說不是遊戲玩太多,
至於mk難握是一回事,主要為造價過高,
當初製作為半自動,後來有改款變全自動握把也變比較好握,
可惜造價依然高的很,比較多變為比賽使用
個人翻譯,造福英文不好的板友
翻的大概很爛,請多包涵...
原作者Chris Kyle去年在靶場被人射殺身亡(印象中是個有PTSD的退役軍人...),RIP

Pistol
The standard SEAL-issued pistol was a SIG Sauer P226, chambered for 9-mm ammo. While that is an excellent weapon, I felt I needed more knockdown power than nine millimeters could provide, and later started carrying my own personal weapon in place of the P226. Let’s face it—if you’re using a pistol in combat, the shxt has already hit the fan. You may not have the time for perfect shot placement. The bigger rounds may not kill your enemy, but they’re more likely to put him down when you hit him.

手槍
海豹部隊公發的手槍是SIG Sauer P226,使用9mm彈藥。雖說那是把非常出色的武器,我私心覺得我需要比9mm更強大的制止力,所以後來我開始帶自己的手槍代替P226。面對現實吧-當你需要掏出手槍作戰時,情況絕對是糟糕透頂了,而你可能不會有機會槍槍擊中對方要害。大顆的子彈不一定能讓你一槍擊斃敵人,
但它們會比較容易把對方擊倒。

In 2004, I brought over a Springfield TRP Operator, which used a .45-caliber round. It had a 1911 body style, with custom grips and a rail system that let me add a light and laser combo. Black, it had a bull barrel and was an excellent gun—until it took a frag for me in Fallujah.

2004年,我帶了一把春田TRP Operator,它使用.45口徑的子彈。它的槍身很類似M1911,附帶客製化握把與滑軌讓我能裝槍燈與雷指器。黑色槍身、裝上重型槍管的它是把好槍-直到它在法魯加之役替我挨了顆手榴彈。

I was actually able to get it repaired—those Springfields are tough. Still, not wanting to press my luck, I replaced it with a SIG P220. The P220 looked pretty much exactly like the P226, but was chambered for .45 caliber.

我其實能把它給修好-這些春田手槍挺牢靠的。但我不想碰運氣,於是我把手槍替換成了SIG P220。
P220長得跟P226很像,不過裝的是.45子彈。

Carrying My Pistol

On my first two deployments, I had a drop-leg holster. (A drop-leg sits against the upper thigh, within easy reach of the pistol hand.) The problem with that type of holster is that it tends to move around. During combat, or even if you’re simply bouncing around, the rig slides over on your leg. So after the first two deployments, I went to a hip holster. That way, my gun was always where I expected it to be.

手槍攜行
我頭兩次部屬時,我用的是腿掛是槍套(腿掛式讓我的手槍至於大腿上半部,正好是我伸手可及的位置)
那種槍套的問題在於很不安分,在戰鬥中,甚至是跳躍時會在你腿上滑動。
之後我改用腰掛式槍套,這樣我的槍才能安安穩穩的待在我想要它待的位置。

关于弹药

I would stick my M-4 and ten mags (three hundred rounds) in the front compartments of my web gear. I would also have my radio, some lights, and my strobe in those pockets. (The strobe can be used at night for rendezvousing with other units or aircraft, ships, boats, whatever. It also can be used to identify friendly troops.)
平時我傾向使用我的M-4並在戰術背心裡塞十個彈匣(300發子彈)。我也會帶無線電、照明設備與紅外線信號器(信號器能在夜間標明集合位置、以及告訴附近單位我是友軍)

If I had one of my sniper rifles with me, I would have some two hundred rounds in my backpack. When I carried the Mk-11 instead of the Win Mag or .338, then I wouldn’t bother carrying the M-4. In that case, the sniper rounds would be in my web gear, closer at hand. Rounding out my ammo were three mags for my pistol.
如果我使用狙擊步槍的話,我會在背包塞200發子彈。如果是帶Mk-11而不是Win Mag或.338的話,那我就不帶M-4,直接在戰術背心裡塞滿狙擊槍彈藥,比較順手。
除此之外會攜帶三個手槍彈匣。

I wore Merrill high-top hiking boots. They were comfortable and held up to the deployment.
我穿Merrill登山鞋,穿起來舒服又耐用。
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