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中國「大灑幣」923億元買俄S-400飛彈 貨船遇風暴飛彈全數報廢


阿斯特怒伯爵ρσπ wrote:
看看那飛彈有多大一...(恕刪)


貨櫃遇到海浪都會掉海裡了

飛彈比貨櫃大多少?

還貨櫃掉海里,你也學自冉時報開始編小說了嗎,你告訴我那飛彈是怎麼落到海里的?有沒有相關國外報道,麻煩貼出來,造謠一張嘴,人家原文明明說的是部分設備損壞,被自冉小編一改成了人家飛彈掉海里,這種添油加醋的事不愧是自冉的拿手好戲
lordkon wrote:
貨櫃遇到海浪都會掉海...(恕刪)
去年1月的事,3艘同行,1艘"貨物受損"返航檢查後報廢銷毀,另2艘則依約交貨.

今年,剛開幕的阿布達比防務展,俄國官員提及此事,宣稱:將盡快補足S-400飛彈
及相關設備的數量.



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giga giga wrote:
以下是自由時報的報導:
俄售中S-400飛彈遇風暴墜海 傳英美不惜代價搶撈 2019-02-21 14:50...(恕刪)

cm601212 wrote:
重點是拿不到,抄不了!心情真苦惱呀!...(恕刪)

lordkon wrote:
這下飛彈落海又要被人摸透透...(恕刪)

樓主引用的美國之音報導,也說是貨物受損返航後銷毀.

自由的報導已經算離譜了,怎還有人不但連稍微查證一下都不會,還更誇大
的編造是俄國蓄意為之.



底下是你們自家人"外獨會",2018當時的文章.

發言人:中笑, on Jan/23/2018 23:48:58 (IP code: X.X.114.80)

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貨船遇風暴中國虧大 砸884億買俄防空導彈GG啦!

2018-01-21 21:21
〔即時新聞/綜合報導〕中國先前狂灑30億美元(約台幣884億元),向俄羅斯購買
其最新型的S-400防空導彈系統,但俄羅斯貨船從聖彼得堡出發,行經波羅的海路過
英吉利海峽時,卻遇到超強風暴,造成船上的S-400系統零件毀損,貨船因此折返俄國。

綜合外媒報導,俄羅斯國內本月19日傳出消息,依照合約向中國出口的S-400防空導彈
系統,載運部分系統零件的「NikiforBegichev」貨船,在2017年12月30日從聖彼得
堡附近港口出航,卻於1月3日,在英吉利海峽遭遇超強風暴。

報導指出,貨船上導彈系統受影響變形,讓船長在事發當日就決定折返聖彼得堡,該貨
船已於本月9日進入俄羅斯烏斯季盧加港,

ebola01 wrote:
俄羅斯總統普亭故意...(恕刪)


既然要引國外新聞, 就不妨引述國外相關報導尤其是俄羅斯官方來源, 透過國內資訊捕風捉影生事,無端破壞一個可以理性討論的網上空間,甚至可能有散播假新聞的嫌疑。

此事在TASS有相關報導, 報導中也對事件詳細說明
'Russia to ship to China S-400 missiles instead of those damaged during delivery'

"ABU-DHABI, February 18. /TASS/. Russia will supply to China a replacement for the S-400 air defense system missiles instead of those damaged during a storm in the English Channel a year ago, Rostec corporation chief Sergei Chemezov told the media at the IDEX-2019 exhibition in Abu Dhabi on Monday.
.....

A regimental set of the S-400 systems was sent to China by three ships. The federal service for military-technical cooperation said in January 2018 one of the ships was hit by a strong storm in the English Channel and the equipment it was carrying was damaged. The transport ship had to return to the port of departure for examination of the cargo. At the beginning of last April the two other ships with the main part of the regimental set of S-400 systems arrived in China.

The signing of the contract with China for the supply of the S-400 systems was announced in November 2014. ....."

TASS 關於這件事的第二篇報導,
"Russia’s state arms seller confirms S-400 missiles damaged during delivery to China"

"MOSCOW, February 21. /TASS/. Russia’s state arms exporter Rosoboronexport has confirmed filing a lawsuit against Baltic Trans-Port LLC for damaging S-400 surface-to-air missiles during their transportation to China by sea, the Rosoboronexport press office told TASS on Thursday.

.......

The S-400 missiles destined for China were damaged in a storm during their transportation by sea. A regiment set of S-400 air defense missile systems was loaded onto three ships, one of which, as Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation reported in January 2018, was hit by a severe storm in the English Channel and was forced to return to the port of departure.


The storm damaged auxiliary equipment aboard the ship. Head of Russia’s State Hi-Tech Corporation Rostec Sergei Chemezov said on February 18, 2019 that the damaged missiles had to be destroyed: instead of them, a new batch of missiles will be manufactured and delivered to the customer.

......

The Rosoboronexport press office declined to disclose the details of the case file and said that all the open information was available on the website of the Moscow Arbitration Tribunal.

The Moscow Arbitration Tribunal earlier reported on its website it had registered two lawsuits filed by Rosoboronexport against Baltic Trans-Port LLC. The case file indicates sums in US dollars and euros for recovery.

"Judge Yu. Yu. Lakoba examined the issue of initiating judicial proceedings on the lawsuit filed by Rosoboronexport versus Baltic Trans-Port LLC on recovering losses in the amount of $161,482,640 and 1.79 million euros," the document says.

......

S-400 deliveries to China

It was announced in November 2014 that Russia had signed a contract with China on the delivery of S-400 surface-to-air missile systems. In November 2015, Russian presidential adviser for military-technical cooperation Vladimir Kozhin confirmed the conclusion of the contract. In June 2016, Head of Russia’s State Hi-Tech Corporation Rostec Chemezov said the Chinese army would get the S-400 no earlier than 2018.

China became the first foreign customer of this air defense missile system. It was reported in early April last year that the first two ships that continued their voyage arrived in China, delivering the basic part of the S-400 regiment set."



從第二篇報導中可以清楚看到, 雖然在2018年初交運時三艘船的其中一艘因為颱風關係導致貨物受損而延遲交運部份部件,但另外兩艘貨品已於2018年4月抵達大陸,履約和貨損賠償責任只在俄國武器出口公司Rosoboronexport和負責運輸的Baltic Trans-Port LLC之間, 與中國一點關係都沒有。

沒有你所謂的"中國「大灑幣」923億元買俄S-400飛彈 貨船遇風暴飛彈全數報廢"情事發生。

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至於中國大陸在2018年初接收的 S400系統, 據外媒The Economic Times, The Diplomat 和Defence Bolg報導
已經在2018年12月成功完成兩次試射。



duran1144 wrote:
既然要引國外新聞,...(恕刪)


你不懂皇民和绿吱,它们不看三立民视自由抹黑中国的假新闻就无法入睡

这是一种焦虑症,只有像本楼这样的文章才可以舒缓它们的情绪
阿斯特怒伯爵ρσπ wrote:
還貨櫃掉海里,你也...(恕刪)


天命所归是大国 wrote:
你不懂皇民和绿吱,...(恕刪)



不. 是真有其事. 這次倒不是假新聞.

https://defence-blog.com/army/all-russian-made-s-400-missiles-sent-to-china-have-been-destroyed.html

當然, 接不接受現實是你們自己的問題.

我是指的飛彈落海的事,是自冉時報捏造的,部分裝備有損壞的事去年就報道了,你發的這篇新聞也沒說飛彈落海,同樣說的是損壞,但自冉時報腦補一堆,製造假新聞
25562623 wrote:
天命所归是大国 wr...(恕刪)
阿斯特怒伯爵ρσπ wrote:
我是指的飛彈落海的...(恕刪)


嘛, 別怪他們. 俄方的說法中有用liquidate一字. 不懂英語的綠色低等人種大概認為這是掉到海裏的意思吧......這樣就可以解釋一切, 不用再吵了.
看著特供新聞,還拿出來炫耀,不丟臉嗎
所以臺灣要建設更多的雲峰與雄風IIe,逼使中共花更多錢在反導系統,我們生產50-80枚 將逼使老共花上十倍以上代價,去建立反導系統。
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