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台美軍事合作又要升級了?

當年美國願意賣ATACMS
這一定不是攻擊性武器


Sino-US militaries seek to 'reduce miscalculation'
By Li Xiaokun and Cheng Guangjin (China Daily)
Updated: 2011-01-11 07:28

China reiterates opposition to US arms sales to island
BEIJING - China and the United States on Monday agreed to jointly reduce the risk of "miscalculation" between the two powerful armed forces, as they restore military ties frayed by a massive US arms deal to Taiwan a year ago.

Defense Minister Liang Guanglie, however, reiterated China's opposition to US arms sales to Taiwan, an issue which visiting US Defense Secretary Robert Gates sidestepped.

Liang and Gates, after a morning of talks, announced during a joint news conference at the headquarters of China's Central Military Commission that they agreed to explore ways to reduce "misunderstanding" and "miscalculation".

"We are in strong agreement that in order to reduce the chances of miscommunication, misunderstanding or miscalculation, it is important that our military-to-military ties are solid, consistent and not subject to shifting political winds," Gates told reporters.

Gates also invited the chief of the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) general staff to visit Washington in the first half of this year.

Liang said they had "agreed that sustained and reliable military-to-military contacts will help reduce misunderstanding and miscalculation".

Both sides should join hands in the spirit of "respect, mutual trust, equality and reciprocity" to ensure the healthy and steady development of the relationship, he added.

Liang said that Chief of General Staff of the PLA Chen Bingde will visit the US in the first half of 2011, adding that exchanges of high-level officials and between educational institutions will continue.

On US arms sales to Taiwan, Liang said they "severely damage China's core interests".

"China's position has been clear and consistent. We are against it," he told reporters.

"We do not want to see such things happen again. We do not want US weapon sales to Taiwan to further damage the relationship between China and the United States and the two nations' armed forces," Liang added.

Asked about reports that Taiwan is buying MGM140 ATACMS (Army Tactical Missile Systems) surface-to-surface missiles from the US, Gates said the missiles are just for defense use, and were approved in 2008 by the Bush administration.

Yet he admitted US arms deals to Taiwan had hurt relations.

The two defense chiefs also denied their governments are entering an arms race.

Liang admitted China had made progress in building its military might and had developed weapons to meet its sovereignty and security requirements.
But he said China's military technology lags far behind the world's most advanced armed forces and does not threaten any country.

China is still years behind US capabilities in radar-evading aircraft, and even by 2025 the US would still have far more of these aircraft than any other nation in the world, Gates said before arriving in Beijing.

He also explained that Washington's repeated joint exercises with Seoul in seas not far from China in 2010 and the current presence of three US aircraft carriers in that region is by no means targeted at Beijing but Pyongyang.

Major General Luo Yuan, with the PLA Academy of Military Sciences, said the MGM140 ATACMS missiles, with a maximum firing range of 300 km, are able to reach Chinese mainland coastal targets across the 170 km-wide Taiwan Straits.

"They are obviously offensive weapons in terms of their capability," said Luo.

He also said US arms sales to Taiwan violated its own promises to China.

The US pledged in a joint communiqu signed in 1982 that it will not pursue a long-term policy of arms sales to Taiwan, the scale of arms sales would not surpass the scale at the time when the two nations established formal diplomatic ties, and arms sales would be gradually decreased till the problem is finally solved.

"It has been 28 years since the communiqu was signed, but the US has yet to fulfil its commitments," said Luo.

Gates arrived in Beijing on Sunday evening. He also met Vice-Chairman of the Central Military Commission and Vice-President, Xi Jinping, on Monday.

Xi expressed the hope that military-to-military relations could move forward in a healthy and stable manner.

On Tuesday Gates will meet President Hu Jintao, who is scheduled to visit Washington later this month.

Tan Yingzi, Wang Chenyan, Xinhua and Reuters contributed to this story.
lordkon wrote:
當年美國願意賣ATACMS...(恕刪)


有買到了?
某總統也答應賣潛艦,也沒拿到

沒有永遠的朋友、沒有永遠的敵人、只有永遠的利益
一雙玉臂千人枕、半點朱唇萬客嚐,還君明珠雙淚垂、恨不相逢未嫁時
farmer3000 wrote:
喔! 這一巴掌還真響(恕刪)

别跟我这装大尾巴狼!
一個台灣就可以把五毛逼的變紙老虎 做一堆無用模型自我安慰 每次看五毛氣到沒話說只能怪自家解放軍無用就很爽
黑夜有雨 wrote:
别跟我这装大尾巴狼!

哈!哈! 他臉都腫到歪一邊了,您老 可別不認啊!
從30艘水面跟水下主戰力濃縮到18艘
又是線上戰力
不是硬撐三不五時要進場
我不認為比較難養
洛杉磯核動力可以開到飽
200多架f16v再配40架f35b+20架ef18g才不到三百架要養
這樣海空軍都是戰力提升n倍
人力不見得需要更多
全面美係後勤壓力比較小
economic wrote:


基本上美國還是在...(恕刪)
從30艘水面跟水下主戰力濃縮到18艘
又是線上戰力
不是硬撐三不五時要進場
我不認為比較難養
洛杉磯核動力可以開到飽
200多架f16v再配40架f35b+20架ef18g才不到三百架要養
這樣海空軍都是戰力提升n倍
人力不見得需要更多
全面美係後勤壓力比較小
economic wrote:


基本上美國還是在...(恕刪)
黑夜有雨 wrote:

完全同意你的观点,...(恕刪)

看到黑大說到憲法裡的國土領域,
突然有個自覺有趣的想法:
中華民國的憲法包含了大陸地區,
而台灣又想獨立。
那是不是可以反著來,不辦台灣的獨立公投,
改辦大陸地區的獨立公投?
或是說正式承認中國政府?
fque wrote:
從30艘水面跟水下主戰力濃縮到18艘
又是線上戰力
不是硬撐三不五時要進場
我不認為比較難養
洛杉磯核動力可以開到飽


海軍要算一算有沒有可能
但核子動力一定不可能賣台灣


fque wrote:
200多架f16v再配40架f35b+20架ef18g才不到三百架要養
這樣海空軍都是戰力提升n倍
人力不見得需要更多
全面美係後勤壓力比較小


養不起
主要在F-35B上面,這養起來非常驚人的,包含基地的停放都不能像是現在這樣(台灣現在的環境就太差了)
人一定比較少,但我們的軍費本來就養不起這麼多人
F-16台灣新買的和升級的養起來差很多,兩種能執行的作戰不一樣
IDF短期不可能全退,要負擔最快升空搶位置和收集情報(F-16在這方面實務上比IDF差),所以只要IDF能飛,不可能全退
一雙玉臂千人枕、半點朱唇萬客嚐,還君明珠雙淚垂、恨不相逢未嫁時
軍購請美國賣便宜一點,賣新式一點,老是拿前一代賣給我們,誠意真是不足,害我們台灣人買次貨還要背債那麼多年,年輕人未來怎還啊!
阿政 wrote:
跟吳斯懷一樣想被統一就不需要軍購武器啦,很難懂??
他自己紅通通有需要抹紅?


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