idbill wrote:
目前家中欲換車，入...(恕刪)
既然市區佔了那麼多的%，就選油電或汽油吧!
1. HYBRID - Unless you really cares a lot of cabin noise level, hybrid car are not powerful at all and when both engine and electric motor operates, the noise level, especially at acceleration is not going to be that quiet! You mention you like to use on some mountain road, then Hybrid would not get what you want. There are two types of HYBRID. Cars like Prius/Camry/RAV4 are using HYBRID mainly for fuel saving purpose, by that, it means - start/stop in city driving mode, most of the time. Now, if you look at BMW or Mercedes S class, S400BYDRID, that is different, the electric motor is used to get that electric turbo effect, to help to accelerate the car faster. So, be aware.
2. DIESEL - I drives a Volvo V60 D4 Turbo. I have also test driven Mazda CX5. Frankly speaking, I choose Volvo because it is quieter (in diesel) but also it is more powerful - Mazda Diesel is great but the acceleration is not that linear. However, I am thinking of switching to Mazda CX5 because the maintenance cost of Volvo is too high, way too high, unncessary high!
My recommendation to you is, choose the CX5 Diesel 2WD. Don't waste your money on 4WD. Mazda 4WD is too electrical/electronic controlled that it does not provide the driving experience of a full time 4WD like X5. The noise level of diesel is bearable. You will be happy to pay for diesel price as it is so much cheaper and you get lots more mileage on it. On average, around 30% more per tank. You might want to consider CX5 Petrol again 2WD. Mazda made a stupid mistake but first introducing 4WD CX5 Petrol. The Skyactiv Petrol, no matter how great it is, in petrol engine, is simply insufficient to power a 4WD CX5. Now, on the 2WD, that is different, I test drove it and it was quite good and zappy. Honestly speaking, do not fall into the trap of 4WD. We don't need that in Taiwan for most if not all the time at all. Mazda CX5 has great chasis, good traction control and all this counts more for stability than the 4WD and you save on money, weight and cost.
Maintenance wise, diesel are quite cheap (except Volvo, who likes to charge you a lot more money)
I do want to say that I test drove the RAV4 before, not the current version but the version before this one (this is the version that do not have the spare tire at the back) I did notice quite a difference between 2WD vs 4WD even though it is electronically driven. Maybe I think, I engage the pernament 4WD during my test drive. Or maybe, RAV4 was too light so that extra traction actually help.
So, what is the downfall of Mazda CX5? Well, you don't have too many color choice for one? The interior is all black as the only option, but more importantly, Mazda does not give good discount, you are looking at best 3W to 4W and that is all. Don't worry about the front windshield breaking - Mazda Japan is responsible enough to take care of it.
I hope this help. Sorry to write in English - if you have any question, please PM me and I would be happy to answer you!
idbill wrote:
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ado016435 wrote:
你該買柴油車, 勇敢改變自己成為往山顛水涯跑的人, 享受人生, 你開起來快樂, 家人也是......沒力的車子, 在山路再如何踩油門也沒用, 遊刃有餘動力強勁的人生, 大不同.....最重要的是又爽又省油......柴油引擎的持久戰鬥力, 更讓你覺得男人當如是...(恕刪)
講的好像會飛天頓地咧 ..
為了那一點點的扭力 , 造成大家吸至癌廢氣 , 買柴不如去買 渦輪汽油
扭力也接近柴 ,至少沒那麼毒 ..
由其台灣人貪小便宜 , 柴車老了之後通常不照規定保養 ... 只能說反正路上貨車那麼多 不差我一台
買柴也是要看品牌看車款 好嗎 ?
某些柴是不錯 , 但在台灣柴油價低廉情況下 , 加單桶的時後你會覺得有省到
但是一些耗油的柴 , 進加油站次數 還不是一樣
還有後續保養的問題 , 柴的耗材是決對比豐田油電成本會高 ,
我跟你的用車習慣差不多
目前住在北市貓空旁的半山腰
假日又會到宜蘭羅東那邊去住與玩耍
我之前開的車是FOCUS TDCI
由於家中多了2位小孩所以決定換車
換車主因是因為柴油車開了5年,里程將近12萬KM,期間百分之95都是回原廠保養與維修
電瓶換了3顆,輪胎換了4次,來令片不知道換了幾次...再加上油封墊片的等等小零件...
其實開了前3年除了電瓶以外,幾乎沒甚麼問題,後2年維修的次數漸漸頻繁,再加上2個小孩與媽媽在後座很擠
於是才會決定看一台休旅車~於是乎就看上了RAV4 HYBRID 2WD
我是今年過年前2天牽到NEW RAV4 HYBRID 2WD
本來是對LEXUS NX300H非常喜愛
無奈預算差太多...剛好有RAV4出油電版,馬上去試乘後與家人討論就訂車了
目前開了約700 KM,後座乘客乘坐滿意又不暈(山路與平地),而且又安靜,目前平均油耗15.6KM/L
在過年期間的假期,只要是路途超過30分鐘的,老婆幾乎在後坐都抱著小孩睡著...老婆說明因為很舒服...
當然因為先前開小車現在開休旅車,開車的模式勢必會有所不一樣,當然會更注意轉彎或是踩油門的狀況
另外在台北每天回家必定會上坡約1.5KM,乘客滿載上坡時不會拖泥帶水(順暢),畢竟2.5的車,一般山坡不可能上不去的!
省油是一定,只是我當初會買就不完全是考慮省油,而是因為不希望怠速或是在宜蘭家戶外熱車時不會排放廢氣
這樣對小孩對家人或是對周遭都好!相對之下之前的柴油車廢氣真的很臭很刺鼻...
另外就是HYBRID的科技感與車內寧靜程度真的是讓我非常滿意,
雖然車價與汽油款相比多了10~20萬左右,但是我個人覺得是值得的!
柴油車真的很有力,超車與加速感也絕對很爽,但是因為有2個小孩了,不方便再熱血
認識HYBRID後整個觀點就變了,一方面是環保,一方面是不希望周遭的人吸到不好聞的廢氣
我的意思絕對不是說買汽油與柴油車的人排放廢氣就是王八蛋的意思!請不要誤會喔~
每個人觀點,需求都不同,在此只是分享我喜歡HYBRID的地方
以上請參考
idbill wrote:
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gjackal wrote:
哈哈 我承認我確實...(恕刪)
豐田系統的雙馬達油電在連續行駛過程除非需求馬力大於引擎最大馬力
不然不會有開到沒電的問題(只會有等紅燈/大塞車搞到2格電)
只要需求動力低於引擎最大輸出馬力，只要引擎有在轉就會充電到電池裡(充電量由車輛決定)
開上坡只會越開越多電~~多到電腦不想充電
ford系統、GM Volt、Honda i-MMD這三款也有類似的能耐
相反的，其餘的單馬達/單馬達+離合器的油電系統
弱至Honda IMA，強如Hypercar等級LaFerrari
這種類型的油電系統只要不是在減速過程就無法對電池充電
如果電池小顆一點的上坡開一開的確有可能越開越少電
不過你沒說你開的是哪一種油電車就是了
家裡都開歐系車，那應該是BMW的油電吧，那是屬於單馬達系統的
的確開上坡會越開越沒電~~
motolove wrote:
講的好像會飛天頓地...(恕刪)
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