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S8+和u11(6g)順暢度

TSMC 跟三星的代工能力,最公平能比較就是Apple A9吧!

始終 s810 只有 TSMC 生產,而同樣 20nm 卻不見得 Apple A8 那麼熱,相信是設計問題的機會較大。

elliotho10 wrote:
TSMC 跟三星的...(恕刪)

A9其實也不公平,兩家並非用相同製程
而就算雖說當然台積電的代工技術整體確實還是比較好,但那同為三星14奈米的A9與同年的三星Exynos7420比起來,Exynos7420並沒有傳出異常耗電跟發熱等問題,而且A9才雙核但Exynos7420是八核,這又是很耐人尋的議題了
這個在3:49說到系統效能U11跟S8遊戲方面.要多點續航就S8吧

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_mvUE-knb8&t=6s


rightson6x wrote:
目前在猶豫要哪一支...(恕刪)
HeeroE wrote:
三星當年度自己有比...(恕刪)


針對高通,三星,蘋果,聯發科,華為,小米這幾家的晶片效能來看,效能最優的還是……

https://technews.tw/2017/06/07/apple-ipad-pro-a10x-fusion-scores-burst/

A10X Fusion 跑分洩露,成績即將爆表

單核3832,多核9091

https://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2017-02-27/geekbench-1.png
和桌機處理器單核距離還有一段,漸漸縮小

https://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2017-02-27/geekbench-2.png
和多核就差距很大
ambitiously wrote:
針對高通,三星,蘋...(恕刪)

你的舉例很沒意義, 因為Apple SoC沒有release給Android, 無解
而且, Apple SoC如果真的裝上了Android也能有一樣的效能嗎? 這也未知
基本上2015年Android SoC最好的就是Exynos 7420, 這是唯一解
HeeroE wrote:
你的舉例很沒意義,...(恕刪)


你少說一句:
當年TIZEN OS最強的也是exynos 7420。

Samsung is a habit

https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-05-29/samsung-is-a-habit



Samsung Electronics Co. is bathing in the glory of forgiveness.

The latest tidbit has its Galaxy S8 smartphone hitting 1 million unit sales in South Korea since its April 21 release, twice as quickly as the previous S7 and S6 models, Yonhap News reported.

Admittedly, that is Samsung's home market, so you'd expect its compatriots to return to the brand more readily than elsewhere after last year's battery disaster. But a doubling of the sales pace is quite a feat.

It adds to the growing news flow suggesting Samsung is recovering well, with consumers lured by its cool bezel-less design and whizzbang features. But I'd posit an alternative reason: habit.

While there are dozens of smartphone makers globally, only Samsung has the geographical reach to make it the default Android option almost everywhere. Much has been said about the rise of Chinese brands such as Huawei, Oppo, and Vivo. Yet those three combined don't equal the shipment volumes of Samsung.

More significantly, each of them barely exists outside their home market. Even Huawei, a global brand in its own right, sells 61 percent of its devices within China, according to data from Bloomberg Intelligence and IDC. For all manner of political and nationalistic reasons, Chinese prefer not to buy Samsung phones. Many other countries also have local heroes that patriots turn to.
China Centric
While Huawei, Oppo and Vivo are growing strongly, most of their sales are still to one market. Samsung's China exposure is minimal
Source: Bloomberg Intelligence, IDC

But that hasn't stopped the world, in general, from choosing Samsung. Latin America consistently gives it a 30 percent share while Asia ex-Japan remains loyal quarter after quarter. It's still No. 1 in central and eastern Europe, despite a strong advance from Huawei, and in western Europe, Samsung is second behind only Apple Inc.

With not much difference between Android models, and most consumers just wanting a good, reliable device, Samsung has become the default brand. This was put in jeopardy with the Galaxy Note 7 debacle, but that crisis is over.

Forgiveness is a wonderful thing, though in reality what Samsung may be enjoying is the power of habit.

HeeroE wrote:
A9其實也不公平,兩...(恕刪)


沒有什麼公不公平的,一樣的東西給兩家做,都用上自己最好的工藝,結果就是三星的會撞功耗牆台積電的不會(兩者基本上算是同一代工藝)
在低頻率的部份兩家功耗基本上是一致的,但是跑到高頻三星耗得電量就是比台積電的16nmFF+多
所以當初才會有有人測試出來兩者差不多和有差的情況,結果取決於測試的方法
還有,如果三星14nmFinFet工藝真的跟台積電16nmFF+打平,那2.26Ghz的A9X幹嘛不給三星做(給三星做面積還可以更小勒)

至於到底是E7420太優秀還是對手太弱這才是耐人尋味,但不可否認的是E7420絕對是當年Android最強處理器

ambitiously wrote:
你少說一句:當年TIZEN...(恕刪)

泰山系統還是留給手錶吧..., 他是好系統, 但沒生態, 就算用上S835/Exynos8895還是一樣讓我不在乎
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