wang9145 wrote:
想要在這個圈子佔有一席之地
光是 yes or no 已經不夠了
需要更上層樓,更精準的定位
您認為呢...(恕刪)
我沒興趣在這個圈子占有一席之地.喝點威士忌只是興趣.
當初開版討論,純粹只是交交朋友.
有時候多講幾句話, 不過就是分享我買過跟喝過的經驗.我也參考特定一些朋友的看法.至於眾說紛紜的看法,對我影響不很大,我有些主觀,不論客不客觀,我常常有我的定見~對於威士忌本身.
至於交朋友,合得來的一定會是朋友,我沒有佔人便宜的習慣,所以跟我交往應該不太會吃虧.合不太來的也不會是敵人,我沒意願與人交惡,所以key不合的,頂多是沒幾句話可講,不會是敵人.
喝威士忌的樂趣很多,懂得品飲,自然會避免酗酒.我跟特定朋友聚會喝酒,從不互相斟酒,不敬酒,不乾杯,自喝自的,只開口討論看法.
這個小圈圈人數不算太多,喝酒者眾,幾乎全是圖個醉意.認真玩賞一支酒的氣味的,算很少數.看周遭朋友的飲酒習慣便知.
想要在這個圈子佔有一席之地?唉...一席之地也不過就一席.
不只是酒海無涯,天高地闊,威士忌能引領人的思緒(那些氣味,不就是聯想嗎?),何必刻意侷限自己於一隅.
就只是個小興趣,讓威士忌成為交朋友的媒介,話題,而不是傷神的東西.
受教了....只能慢慢累積經驗值啊...我現在還太菜了....
新同學們別吝嗇自己的文筆...品飲完的感想...
就隨自己的想法寫..即使短短幾各字...好喝或不好喝.....香或不香...都很好啊....
慢慢的就會越寫越多...或是看看網上的相同酒款品飲筆記對照一下..就容易知道..哪些味道是什麼..
當然那些強者...會品出很多我們無法察覺到的味道...可能多累積經驗值就會敏銳一些...
威士忌是很好玩的...隨著時間香氣也不同.....好像是活的...呵呵....
之前在這些<手粗嘴精>好友的引領下,確實喝到了不少好酒,而這些酒確實也把年初剛入門所買的許多酒給比下去,
也因此,櫃中好幾支酒恐怕已是晾在那好幾個月了!
剛才一起興起,隨便抓起一支酒試,結果由拉加維林LAGAVULIN 1991/2007雙桶陳釀的這支酒中選,剛剛看了瓶身,我都忘了他是什麼味道,瓶蓋一打開,喔,原來是之前自己最煞的泥煤味!
基本上這支酒的泥煤味算是濃郁的,那股氣味不純然是消毒水或征露丸的味道而已,而是帶有淡淡的青甜味,濃郁的泥煤香中,似乎又聞到一絲絲水晶肥皂泡的氣息,其實講真的,雖然他沒有輕井澤或山崎....等等怪伽私那股懾人的氣勢,但細細品味也還不錯!
把酒含在口中,其酒體也算溫潤滑順,並不辣口,吞入喉後,重泥煤味那股SMOKING的感覺由咽喉逸散至整個口腔,感覺綿密細長,之後如同喝完茶後的回甘餘韻或菸絲的甘甜味油然而生,算起來應算是不錯的一支酒!
內文如下(關於硫磺味的討論)~
Dear Louis,
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Anyhow. I just saw your review on the Karuizawa 1984 and observed an interesting point. You seemed to indicate this bottle to be arch-typical of Karuizawa whisky and the "gun powder" note seemed to be very strong w/ this one. Is this a common trait among sherried Japanese whisky? I notice that taste note in Yamazaki 18 and very strongly in Yoichi 20. The only Japanese whisky I have that don't have this is the "tiger mark" Karuizawa 1985 (is that why you said it's not representative of Karuizawa whisky?). I also think that note, in combination of the wood and oily notes, gives the impression of "dark chocolate".. please correct me if I am wrong here.
To be honest, this sulfurous note is a big turn off for me and I was not able to drink just about any whisky that was sherry casked. The only sherry cask whisky I can drink that that time was the A'bunadh which is very "clean." For whatever reason, it became more tolerable in the last month and I was able to drink them again.
Lastly, I am somewhat interested in that OMC Glenfarclas 1967 (if there is any left). Does this whisky have any of the sulfur notes? How about the "old sherry" notes (old wet barrel, mushroom, old/musty furniture) like those found in the Gelndronach 15? Those "old sherry" notes in the Glendronach 15 prevented me to really enjoy it, despite the nice fruit/wine aroma...
Thanks again for your help and I hope to meet you sometime next year when I am in Taiwan!
我提到輕井澤1984的硫磺味,讓BEN發了這封私訊來詢問我,他很好奇是不是只有日本威士忌的雪莉桶,特別會有這股硫磺味?
其實不然,蘇格蘭威士忌裡照樣有硫磺味,也不必然是雪莉桶(通常雪莉桶比較常見),其他桶別也有可能遇到有硫磺味的產生.
硫磺味的產生.一種說法是發酵蒸餾時就產生,也就是新酒時便有.
另一種說法是橡木桶燒炙殺菌(例如雪莉桶倒出雪莉酒,填裝威士忌之間,重新燒烤一次,藉以殺菌)時,產生了硫化物,接著陳年時威士忌自然就融入這股硫化物的氣味.
多數人把硫磺味視為缺點,有些人不喜歡,有些人很排斥.我個人,沒有特別好惡,對於硫磺味.
我比較討厭的氣味是"麥餿味",那股餿水的燥味,我很不喜歡.
至於~Is this a common trait among sherried Japanese whisky? 算不算很常見??也不算,山崎白州余市跟宮城峽似乎沒輕井澤那麼常出現過年時的鞭炮味.
余市20y的硫磺味明顯.所以我常介紹沒買到輕井澤的人,把余市20y當成"美那水"來止輕井澤的癮頭.
至於山崎18y的硫磺味就很隱晦,很不明顯,若有似無.不喜歡威士忌有硫磺味的人通常不至於因此而排斥山崎18y.
山崎18y比較細緻,但是沒有余市20y的濃烈,強壯飽滿,喜歡衝撞感的人嫌山崎18y柔弱.褒揚山崎18y細緻的人,覺得余市20ytoo much "火藥味".這兩瓶我都喜歡.
你說~To be honest, this sulfurous note is a big turn off for me and I was not able to drink just .........如果硫磺味讓你"倒足胃口",表示這不是你的菜.
一開始我也不是很愛,但是我習慣的很快,很快就不那麼排斥,然後.....也不是變逐臭之夫,只是比較能欣賞除了硫磺味以外,還有哪些迷人且細緻的氣味,隱含其間.
For whatever reason, it became more tolerable in the last month and I was able to drink them again.~所以啊.......你也漸漸grow into it.
OMC Glenfarclas 1967 (if there is any left). Does this whisky have any of the sulfur notes?~有,但是很輕微,輕微到不易察覺,所以無甚妨礙.說是瑕不掩瑜亦不為過.
How about the "old sherry" notes (old wet barrel, mushroom, old/musty furniture) like those found in the Gelndronach 15? Those "old sherry" notes in the Glendronach 15 prevented me to really enjoy it, despite the nice fruit/wine aroma...
沒有,沒這些"雜味",其實格蘭多納15y也相當不錯,以一支1500的酒而論,算是很不錯的.
Thanks again for your help and I hope to meet you sometime next year when I am in Taiwan!
~sure,回台灣時再來聊聊,我請你喝些平常我喝的dram.
話題是~硫磺味.
衍生自新的輕井澤1984.有硫磺味,但是可以接受,而且酒體複雜度高.....價位合宜.
不買不會死,但是不買可惜.
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