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從外來ISP的台灣PoP看各台灣ISP的路由

我雖然不是台灣人,不過我對於你們的網路骨幹很好奇。剛好找到這個好用的
Looking Glass,於是就開始測試起來了給大家看看 Hinet網站:

traceroute ip www.hinet.net Translating "www.hinet.net"...domain server (63.221.246.95) [OK] Tracing the route to www.hinet.net (202.39.253.11) 1 pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec 2 pos6-0.cr02.hkg05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.144.70) 24 msec 24 msec 20 msec 3 hinet.pos1-1.cr02.hkg05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.215.250) 48 msec 44 msec 44 msec 4 220-128-6-230.HINET-IP.hinet.net (220.128.6.230) 48 msec 44 msec 44 msec 5 TPDT-3012.hinet.net (220.128.2.210) 52 msec TPDT-3012.hinet.net (220.128.4.182) 52 msec TPDT-3012.hinet.net (220.128.2.210) 52 msec 6 CHCH-3112.hinet.net (220.128.2.13) 44 msec TNE1-3011.hinet.net (220.128.3.113) 44 msec 44 msec 7 211.22.41.237 60 msec 68 msec 84 msec 8 www.hinet.net (202.39.253.11) 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec Query Complete
Hinet DNS:

traceroute ip 168.95.1.1 Tracing the route to dns.hinet.net (168.95.1.1) 1 pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec 2 pos1-0.cr02.hkg05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.144.66) 24 msec pos6-1.cr02.hkg05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.144.234) 24 msec pos1-0.cr02.hkg05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.144.66) 24 msec 3 hinet.pos1-1.cr02.hkg05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.215.250) 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec 4 61-221-53-30.HINET-IP.hinet.net (61.221.53.30) 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec 5 210-59-204-139.HINET-IP.hinet.net (210.59.204.139) 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec Query Complete
TFN網站:

traceroute ip www.taiwanmobile.com Translating "www.taiwanmobile.com"...domain server (63.221.246.95) [OK] Translating "www.taiwanmobile.com"...domain server (63.221.246.95) [OK] Tracing the route to www.gslb.taiwanmobile.com (124.29.137.11) 1 pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec 2 TenGE11-1.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.2) 0 msec TenGE11-3.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.30) 0 msec TenGE11-1.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.2) 0 msec 3 63-218-244-170.static.pccwglobal.net (63.218.244.170) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 4 60-199-3-221.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.3.221) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 5 60-199-3-138.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.3.138) 0 msec 60-199-3-142.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.3.142) 0 msec 60-199-20-53.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.20.53) 0 msec 6 60-199-21-198.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.21.198) 4 msec 60-199-4-162.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.4.162) 0 msec Query Complete
TFN DNS:

traceroute ip 61.31.1.1 Tracing the route to dnsv2.tfn.net.tw (61.31.1.1) 1 pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 4 msec pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec 2 TenGE11-1.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.2) 0 msec TenGE11-3.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.30) 0 msec TenGE11-1.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.2) 0 msec 3 63-218-244-170.static.pccwglobal.net (63.218.244.170) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 * 60-199-3-221.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.3.221) 0 msec 0 msec 5 60-199-3-150.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.3.150) 0 msec 60-199-3-146.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.3.146) 0 msec 60-199-20-53.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.20.53) 0 msec 6 60-199-21-74.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.21.74) 0 msec 60-199-21-70.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.21.70) 0 msec 0 msec 7 60-199-237-30.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.237.30) 0 msec 0 msec Query Complete
亞太電訊網站:

traceroute ip esp.aptg.com.tw Translating "esp.aptg.com.tw"...domain server (63.221.246.95) [OK] Tracing the route to esp.aptg.com.tw (210.200.66.82) 1 pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec 2 TenGE13-1.br03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.178) 0 msec TenGE13-2.br03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.198) 0 msec TenGE13-1.br03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.178) 4 msec 3 newcomm-aptg-ge9-27.br03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.17.94) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 203-79-252-219.ebix.net.tw (203.79.252.219) 0 msec 0 msec 203-79-252-226.ebix.net.tw (203.79.252.226) 8 msec 5 203-79-250-118.static.apol.com.tw (203.79.250.118) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 6 203-79-250-65.static.apol.com.tw (203.79.250.65) 0 msec 203-79-250-73.static.apol.com.tw (203.79.250.73) 0 msec 203-79-250-65.static.apol.com.tw (203.79.250.65) 0 msec 7 203-79-253-161.ebix.net.tw (203.79.253.161) 0 msec Query Complete


中嘉和網網站:
traceroute ip www.kbtelecom.net
Translating "www.kbtelecom.net"...domain server (63.221.246.95) [OK]

Tracing the route to www.kbtelecom.net (61.63.0.102)
1 pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec
pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec
pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec
2 TenGE11-3.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.30) 0 msec
TenGE11-1.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.2) 4 msec
TenGE11-3.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.30) 0 msec
3 cns-kbt.ge5-8.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.244.34) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
4 TPNOC1-T76-10G2-1-102-CHIEF.IX.kbtelecom.net (203.187.6.93) 20 msec 0 msec 0 msec
5 TPNOC3-AS18042-C65-PO2-TPNOC1.IX.kbtelecom.net (203.187.9.182) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
6 58.86-0-host189.kbtelecom.net.tw (58.86.0.189) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
7 61-63-63-host38.kbtelecom.net.tw (61.63.63.38) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
8 58.86-2-host122.kbtelecom.net.tw (58.86.2.122) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
9 mapping.kbtelecom.net (61.63.0.123) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
10 * * *
Query Complete


TANet網站:
traceroute ip 192.83.166.43
Tracing the route to 192.83.166.43
1 pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec
pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec
pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec
2 tenge12-3.br01.hkg04.pccwbtn.net (63.218.60.150) 24 msec
TenGE10-4.br01.hkg04.pccwbtn.net (63.218.60.218) 20 msec
tenge12-3.br01.hkg04.pccwbtn.net (63.218.60.150) 20 msec
3 203.78.181.209 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
4 203.78.187.146 [MPLS: Label 303872 Exp 0] 16 msec 20 msec 20 msec
5 203.78.187.73 [MPLS: Labels 316640/299936 Exp 0] 44 msec
57-60-41-175.TWGATE-IP.twgate.net (175.41.60.57) [MPLS: Label 299936 Exp 0] 40 msec
53-60-41-175.TWGATE-IP.twgate.net (175.41.60.53) [MPLS: Label 301152 Exp 0] 44 msec
6 17-60-41-175.TWGATE-IP.twgate.net (175.41.60.17) 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec
7 221-60-41-175.TWGATE-IP.twgate.net (175.41.60.221) 44 msec
46-61-41-175.TWGATE-IP.twgate.net (175.41.61.46) 40 msec 44 msec
8 Internet-MOE-N-TANet.edu.tw (203.72.43.9) 40 msec
Query Complete


中研院網站:
traceroute ip www.ascc.sinica.edu.tw
Translating "www.ascc.sinica.edu.tw"...domain server (63.221.246.95) [OK]

Tracing the route to www.ascc.sinica.edu.tw (140.109.4.27)
1 pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec
pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec
pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec
2 TenGE13-2.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.194) 72 msec
TenGE11-3.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.246.30) 0 msec
TenGE13-2.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.194) 156 msec
3 63-218-244-170.static.pccwglobal.net (63.218.244.170) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
4 219-80-240-86.static.tfn.net.tw (219.80.240.86) 24 msec 24 msec 24 msec
5 202.169.174.109 24 msec 24 msec 24 msec
6 202.169.174.2 24 msec 24 msec 24 msec
7 140.109.255.122 20 msec 24 msec 20 msec
8 www.ascc.sinica.edu.tw (140.109.4.27) 24 msec 24 msec 24 msec
Query Complete


Google Public DNS:
traceroute ip 8.8.8.8
Tracing the route to google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8)
1 pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec
pos5-0.cr04.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.133) 0 msec
pos13-0.cr03.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.137) 0 msec
2 TenGE13-2.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.194) 0 msec
TenGE13-1.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.174) 0 msec
TenGE13-2.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.78.194) 0 msec
3 72.14.196.57 24 msec 24 msec 24 msec
4 209.85.243.30 24 msec
72.14.233.20 28 msec
209.85.243.30 24 msec
5 209.85.252.161 [MPLS: Label 682694 Exp 4] 28 msec
209.85.242.163 [MPLS: Label 491387 Exp 4] 24 msec
209.85.252.213 [MPLS: Label 651654 Exp 4] 24 msec
6 72.14.237.171 28 msec
209.85.250.103 28 msec 28 msec
Query Complete


不過我感覺這些traceroute都好像怪怪的……
2014-09-29 20:55 發佈

licson wrote:
我雖然不是台灣人,不...(恕刪)


台灣光是Hinet和Seednet互連都有問題了


Nahcoroyk wrote: 台灣光是Hinet和Seednet...(恕刪)


看起來是跑了這家的線路去了別處再回去seednet……
licson wrote:
看起來是跑了這家的線...(恕刪)


這個老問題已經和骨幹單位講過很多次了

但hinet和seednet兩端會互踢皮球

見怪不怪了

現在好一點從近一點的pccw接

之前從更遠的ntt接

Nahcoroyk wrote:
這個老問題已經和骨幹...(恕刪)



別人連到 我電腦用HTTP下載還會限流
PS: 我用Hinet 100M/40M VDSL 雙線bonding

別人: 台灣大寬頻Cable, 凱擘大寬頻Cable[無法100%確定], bb寬頻Cable



我不知道 這是全世界的通病 還是台灣獨有


ISP之間如果長時間流量太大 就會被HTTP下載限流?



chih_haohung wrote:
別人連到 我電腦用H...(恕刪)


是 台固 和 中嘉 在尖峰和hinet互連頻寬問題



這已經是老問題了 以前有提出

中嘉比較慘
hinet絕大多都會從這個點過去
要不就通通塞twix
塞車不意外

61.63.0.102



203.187.9.254




203.187.23.6

Nahcoroyk wrote: 這個老問題已經和骨幹單位講過很多次了...(恕刪)


請問一下 從我提供的路由來看,Hinet沒跟PCCW在台灣對接,反而是從香港接。怎麼Hinet不選近一點的地方連接就是要跑海纜去接那麼奇怪啊?

licson wrote:
請問一下 從我提供的...(恕刪)


hinet骨幹單位的問題

他們比較喜歡繞遠路

用戶去申訴效果有限
國內ISP互連(指與中華hinet直連)的成本, 比繞到國外還便宜.
所以traffic會繞到國外再到Hinet.
為什麼? 因為跟中華連, 中華收了天價.
到目前為止, NCC管不動.
不是ISP網路工程師喜歡繞遠路.
這不是技術問題, 是商業問題.
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