SSD近來好像又有跳水趨勢了... (第3頁)

changpizz

changpizz
個人積分：343分
文章編號：49123455

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21樓

2014-03-14 13:35

市集達人 wrote:
SSD都掛掉好幾家了...(恕刪)

聊到TLC 正好有張圖可以分享一下

這就是沒那麼糟的TLC 黑豆乾檢查4次的實際表現.....
OS Version: Win 7

MP Version: 2.058 (2012.12.05)

PC Name : []

DUT Slot: 0

Driver : D

IC Type : 1D-1

ISP Type: 1

0:00.0 -------------------------------------

0:00.0 Flow Initial ...

0:00.0 - INQ:........ 2267 HV TESTER 1.00

0:00.0 * Jump ROM ...

0:04.1 * Model=1D-1-1

0:04.1 + Install ISP : V261D-y.BIN

0:04.1 + Jump ISP:

0:04.1 - INQ:........ 2267 PRAM 1.00

0:04.1 - Stage: ROM code.

0:07.6 - INQ:........ 2267 HV TESTER 1.00

0:08.6 --> ID: 98-DE-98-92-72-D7-0B-14-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

0:08.6 --> ID: 98-DE-01-10-48-00-56-20-02-AB-00-01-02-00-00-19

0:08.6 00-00-00-00-40-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

0:08.8 + Set Bad Column ...

0:08.8 + ForceID:98-DE-98-92-72-D7-0B-14

0:08.8 + Read Flash ID ...

0:08.8 --> ID: 98-DE-98-92-72-D7-0B-14

0:08.8 - ISP F/W Code Date: 12/11/16

0:08.8 --> ID: 98-DE-01-10-48-00-56-20-02-AB-00-01-02-00-00-19

0:08.8 00-00-00-00-40-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

0:08.8 - Flash Parameters : 19nm,x8,4168,86,16, HW.ECC=60,844,Toggle

0:08.8 + Set Flash Access Timing ...

0:09.0 + Flash Timing: R=4(0x11), W=4(0x11)

0:09.1 + Reset Flash ...

0:09.1 - UP23, TC58TEG6T2JTA00(eD3-TGL.8K)

0:09.1 + Bad Column Test ...

0:09.1 + Set Bad Column ...

0:09.2 - Use ORIGINAL Bad Column.

0:09.2 -------------------------------------

0:09.2 Test & Scan Stage ...

0:09.2 [ High Level Format + TestMode=0]

0:09.2 >> Mode=3, Optimize=0, SizeMode=1

0:09.2 + Test Scan Bad ...

0:09.2 + Seaching IB-Block ...

0:20.6 * Search IB fail, try 33ns *

0:20.6 * Search IB fail, try 33ns *

0:27.5 * Search IB fail, try 100ns *

0:46.0 ### CE-0, DIE-0, not found IB ###

0:47.3 - CE-0, Die-0 : Result Block(Good/Bad) = 4120,48

0:47.3 - Total Good=4120, Total Bad=48

0:47.3 [DefectBlock]

0:47.3 - Total 0 Bad Blocks

0:47.3 O.PA[]=OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

0:47.3 O.SA[]=OOOOOOOO

0:47.3 + Calculate User BIN ...

0:47.3 - Bad Wl = 0,0

0:47.3 - Spare = 32,41

0:47.3 - Calculate capacity D1 : WL(Good/Bad) = 86 / 0

0:47.3 - <T24> 0,0: Good Block(E=2084,O=2084,F=4168)=(1372,1372,2745), Sp=41

0:47.3 + <T24> D1 Good Block(E=1372,O=1372,F=2745)

0:47.3 + T24 special Mode = 00, Size = 2745 MB

0:47.3 ### Err: Could not find a size to fix. (Physical=2745 MB)

0:47.3 ### Err: Disk is too small to fit user select disk size.

0:47.3 + Setup Parameters for IB-Table ...

0:47.3 PA[]=OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

0:47.3 SA[]=OOOOOOOO

0:47.3 - Total Sector=8, Pages for IB=1

0:47.3 - EvenZonePage[]=0,1,2,3, OddZonePage[]=0,1,2,3

0:47.3 - EvenZonePage[]=0,1,2,3, OddZonePage[]=0,1,2,3

0:47.3 + 40(00) / OBC:00(00)

0:47.3 -------------------------------------

0:47.3 + Install IB-Table ... Mode=40,Skip=00

0:47.3 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0000-0001)

0:47.3 - Good/Plane=2083,2083,

0:47.7 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0000-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:47.8 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:47.8 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0002-0003)

0:47.8 - Good/Plane=2082,2082,

0:48.3 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0002-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:48.3 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:48.4 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0004-0005)

0:48.4 - Good/Plane=2081,2081,

0:48.8 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0004-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:48.9 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:48.9 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0006-0007)

0:48.9 - Good/Plane=2080,2080,

0:49.3 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0006-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:49.4 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:49.5 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0008-0009)

0:49.5 - Good/Plane=2079,2079,

0:49.9 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0008-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:50.0 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:50.0 ### Err: IB-Table create failed.

0:50.0 -------------------------------------

0:50.0 + Install IB-Table ... Mode=40,Skip=00

0:50.0 - Toshiba 24nm block pair

0:50.0 - Good/Plane=2078,2078,

0:50.4 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x000A-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:50.5 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:50.5 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (000C-000D)

0:50.6 - Good/Plane=2077,2077,

0:51.0 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x000C-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:51.0 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:51.1 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (000E-000F)

0:51.1 - Good/Plane=2076,2076,

0:51.5 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x000E-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:51.6 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:51.6 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0010-0011)

0:51.6 - Good/Plane=2075,2075,

0:52.0 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0010-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:52.1 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:52.1 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0012-0013)

0:52.1 - Good/Plane=2074,2074,

0:52.5 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0012-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:52.6 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:52.6 ### Err: IB-Table create failed.

0:52.6 -------------------------------------

0:52.6 + Install IB-Table ... Mode=40,Skip=00

0:52.6 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0014-0015)

0:52.6 - Good/Plane=2073,2073,

0:53.1 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0014-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:53.1 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:53.2 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0016-0017)

0:53.2 - Good/Plane=2072,2072,

0:53.6 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0016-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:53.7 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:53.7 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0030-0031)

0:53.7 - Good/Plane=2071,2071,

0:54.1 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0030-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:54.2 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:54.3 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0032-0033)

0:54.3 - Good/Plane=2070,2070,

0:54.7 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0032-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:54.7 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:54.8 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0034-0035)

0:54.8 - Good/Plane=2069,2069,

0:55.2 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0034-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

0:55.3 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

0:55.3 ### Err: IB-Table create failed.

0:55.3 ### Err:0071 ###

0:55.3 [RESULT] ErrorCode : 0071

[ 2013-12-26 09:53:36 ]

[ UPTool takes 00:00:55 ]
[ 2013-12-26 09:58:39 ]

OS Version: Win 7

MP Version: 2.058 (2012.12.05)

PC Name : []

DUT Slot: 1

Driver : D

IC Type : 1D-1

ISP Type: 1

0:00.0 -------------------------------------

0:00.0 Flow Initial ...

0:00.0 - INQ:........ 2267 SORTER V1.01.00

0:00.0 * Jump ROM ...

0:04.0 * Model=1D-1-1

0:04.0 + Install ISP : V261D-y.BIN

0:04.0 + Jump ISP:

0:04.0 - INQ:........ 2267 PRAM 1.00

0:04.0 - Stage: ROM code.

0:07.5 - INQ:........ 2267 HV TESTER 1.00

0:08.5 --> ID: 98-DE-98-92-72-D7-0B-14-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

0:08.5 --> ID: 98-DE-01-10-48-00-56-20-02-AB-00-01-02-00-00-19

0:08.5 00-00-00-00-40-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

0:08.7 + Set Bad Column ...

0:08.8 + ForceID:98-DE-98-92-72-D7-0B-14

0:08.8 + Read Flash ID ...

0:08.8 --> ID: 98-DE-98-92-72-D7-0B-14

0:08.8 - ISP F/W Code Date: 12/11/16

0:08.8 --> ID: 98-DE-01-10-48-00-56-20-02-AB-00-01-02-00-00-19

0:08.8 00-00-00-00-40-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

0:08.8 - Flash Parameters : 19nm,x8,4168,86,16, HW.ECC=60,844,Toggle

0:08.8 + Set Flash Access Timing ...

0:09.0 + Flash Timing: R=1(0x33), W=1(0x33)

0:09.0 + Reset Flash ...

0:09.0 - UP23, TC58TEG6T2JTA00(eD3-TGL.8K)

0:09.0 + Bad Column Test ...

0:09.0 + Set Bad Column ...

0:09.0 - Use ORIGINAL Bad Column.

0:09.0 -------------------------------------

0:09.0 Test & Scan Stage ...

0:09.0 [ Low Level Format + TestMode=0 ]

0:09.0 >> SmartEcc=1, Ecc=0

0:09.0 >> Mode=3, Optimize=0, SizeMode=1

0:09.0 >> Max ECC = D1(45), D3(20,40,D1+D3=50)

0:09.0 -------------------------------------

0:09.0 + Smart Test ... 0000

0:09.0 + Install ISP : ISP61.BIN

0:09.0 + Jump ISP:

0:09.0 - INQ:........ 2267 HV TESTER 1.00

0:10.5 - Stage: ROM code.

0:14.0 - INQ:........ 2267 SORTER V1.01.00

0:14.0 + Smart Test ISP Version : OS61 Ver 1.06k (2012.12.04-1)

0:14.0 + GPIO = FF,04,FF,FF

0:14.1 + New CE Mode_3 = 00

0:14.3 + ECC setting : 60, 60, 40

0:14.3 + CE=1, Page Layout Mode = 0, MaxWL=86

0:14.3 +-----------------------------------------------------+

0:27.6 * Erase takes 00:00:13, (Found 0 NoResponse Blocks)

0:27.6 +-----------------------------------------------------+

0:27.6 + Double Check Block Scan ... 0-0(FFFF), Marker=EA

0:28.1 + 0-0000: ................................................................

0:28.6 + 0-0040: ................................................................

0:29.1 + 0-0080: ................................................................

0:29.5 + 0-00C0: ................................................................

0:30.0 + 0-0100: ......UU........................................................

0:30.5 + 0-0140: ................................................................

0:31.0 + 0-0180: ..........................UU....................................

0:31.5 + 0-01C0: ................................................................

0:31.9 + 0-0200: ................................................................

0:32.4 + 0-0240: ................................................................

0:32.9 + 0-0280: ................UUUUUUUUUUUU....................................

0:33.4 + 0-02C0: ................................................................

0:33.8 + 0-0300: ................................................................

0:34.3 + 0-0340: ......................................UU........................

0:34.8 + 0-0380: ................................................................

0:35.3 + 0-03C0: ................................................................

0:35.7 + 0-0400: ................................................................

0:36.2 + 0-0440: ..............UU................................................

0:36.7 + 0-0480: ........................UU........UU............................

0:37.2 + 0-04C0: ................................................................

0:37.7 + 0-0500: ................................................................

0:38.1 + 0-0540: ................................................................

0:38.6 + 0-0580: ................................................................

0:39.1 + 0-05C0: ..............................UU................................

0:39.6 + 0-0600: ................................................................

0:40.1 + 0-0640: ................................................................

0:40.5 + 0-0680: ................................................................

0:41.0 + 0-06C0: ..................................................UU............

0:41.5 + 0-0700: ................................................................

0:42.0 + 0-0740: ................................................................

0:42.4 + 0-0780: ................................................................

0:42.9 + 0-07C0: ................................................................

0:43.4 + 0-0800: ................................................................

0:43.9 + 0-0840: ................................................................

0:44.4 + 0-0880: ................................................................

0:44.8 + 0-08C0: ....................................UU..........................

0:45.3 + 0-0900: ................................................................

0:45.8 + 0-0940: ................................................................

0:46.3 + 0-0980: ................................................................

0:46.8 + 0-09C0: ................................................................

0:47.2 + 0-0A00: ................................................UU..............

0:47.7 + 0-0A40: ................................................................

0:48.2 + 0-0A80: ................................................................

0:48.7 + 0-0AC0: ................................................................

0:49.1 + 0-0B00: ................................................................

0:49.6 + 0-0B40: ..........................................UU....................

0:50.1 + 0-0B80: ................................................................

0:50.6 + 0-0BC0: ..............UU................................................

0:51.1 + 0-0C00: ................................UU..............................

0:51.5 + 0-0C40: ................................................................

0:52.0 + 0-0C80: ................................................................

0:52.5 + 0-0CC0: ................................................................

0:53.0 + 0-0D00: ................................................................

0:53.5 + 0-0D40: ................................................................

0:53.9 + 0-0D80: ................................................................

0:54.4 + 0-0DC0: ............................................................UU..

0:54.9 + 0-0E00: ....UU..........................................................

0:55.4 + 0-0E40: ................................................................

0:55.8 + 0-0E80: ................................................................

0:56.3 + 0-0EC0: ................................................................

0:56.8 + 0-0F00: UU..........................UU..................................

0:57.3 + 0-0F40: ................................................................

0:57.7 + 0-0F80: ................................................................

0:58.2 + 0-0FC0: ................................................................

0:58.7 + 0-1000: ........UU......................................................

0:58.8 + 0-1040: ........

0:58.8 - 4168 Block been scanned, 48 New Error Block

1:12.0 * Erase takes 00:00:13, (Found 48 NoResponse Blocks)

1:12.0 -------------------------------------------------------

1:12.0 + Install ISP : V261D-y.BIN

1:12.0 + Jump ISP:

1:12.0 - INQ:........ 2267 SORTER V1.01.00

1:13.5 - Stage: ROM code.

1:17.1 - INQ:........ 2267 HV TESTER 1.00

1:18.1 --> ID: 98-DE-98-92-72-D7-0B-14-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

1:18.1 --> ID: 98-DE-01-10-48-00-56-20-02-AB-00-01-02-00-00-19

1:18.1 00-00-00-00-40-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

1:18.3 + Set Bad Column ...

1:18.3 -------------------------------------------------------

1:18.3 [DefectBlock]

1:18.3 0:0106,0:0107,0:019A,0:019B,0:0290,0:0291,0:0292,0:0293,0:0294,0:0295,

1:18.3 0:0296,0:0297,0:0298,0:0299,0:029A,0:029B,0:0366,0:0367,0:044E,0:044F,

1:18.3 0:0498,0:0499,0:04A2,0:04A3,0:05DE,0:05DF,0:06F2,0:06F3,0:08E4,0:08E5,

1:18.3 0:0A30,0:0A31,0:0B6A,0:0B6B,0:0BCE,0:0BCF,0:0C20,0:0C21,0:0DFC,0:0DFD,

1:18.3 0:0E04,0:0E05,0:0F00,0:0F01,0:0F1C,0:0F1D,0:1008,0:1009,

1:18.3 - Total 48 Bad Blocks

1:18.3 O.PA[]=OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

1:18.3 O.SA[]=OOOOOOOO

1:18.3 + Calculate User BIN ...

1:18.3 - Bad Wl = 0,0

1:18.3 - Spare = 32,105

1:18.3 - Calculate capacity D3 : WL(Good/Bad) = 86 / 0

1:18.3 - <T24> 0,0: Good Block(E=2060,O=2060,F=4120)=(3940,3940,7881), Sp=105

1:18.3 + <T24> D3 Good Block(E=3938,O=3938,F=7877)

1:18.3 + T24 special Mode = 00, Size = 7877 MB

1:18.3 <Auto BIN-1> Physical Size=7877 (MB), Selected Size=7600 (MB)

1:18.3 + Setup Parameters for IB-Table ...

1:18.3 PA[]=OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

1:18.3 SA[]=OOOOOOOO

1:18.3 - Total Sector=8, Pages for IB=1

1:18.3 - EvenZonePage[]=0,1,2,3, OddZonePage[]=0,1,2,3

1:18.3 - EvenZonePage[]=0,1,2,3, OddZonePage[]=0,1,2,3

1:18.3 + 40(00) / OBC:00(00)

1:18.3 -------------------------------------

1:18.3 + Install IB-Table ... Mode=40,Skip=00

1:18.3 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0000-0001)

1:18.3 - Good/Plane=2059,2059,

1:18.5 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0000-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:18.5 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:18.6 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0002-0003)

1:18.6 - Good/Plane=2058,2058,

1:18.8 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0002-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:18.8 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:18.8 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0004-0005)

1:18.8 - Good/Plane=2057,2057,

1:19.0 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0004-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:19.1 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:19.1 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0006-0007)

1:19.1 - Good/Plane=2056,2056,

1:19.3 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0006-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:19.3 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:19.3 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0008-0009)

1:19.3 - Good/Plane=2055,2055,

1:19.5 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0008-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:19.6 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:19.6 ### Err: IB-Table create failed.

1:19.6 -------------------------------------

1:19.6 + Install IB-Table ... Mode=40,Skip=00

1:19.6 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (000A-000B)

1:19.6 - Good/Plane=2054,2054,

1:19.8 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x000A-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:19.8 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:19.8 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (000C-000D)

1:19.8 - Good/Plane=2053,2053,

1:20.0 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x000C-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:20.1 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:20.1 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (000E-000F)

1:20.1 - Good/Plane=2052,2052,

1:20.3 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x000E-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:20.3 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:20.3 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0010-0011)

1:20.3 - Good/Plane=2051,2051,

1:20.5 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0010-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:20.6 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:20.6 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0012-0013)

1:20.6 - Good/Plane=2050,2050,

1:20.8 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0012-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:20.8 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:20.8 ### Err: IB-Table create failed.

1:20.8 -------------------------------------

1:20.8 + Install IB-Table ... Mode=40,Skip=00

1:20.8 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0014-0015)

1:20.8 - Good/Plane=2049,2049,

1:21.0 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0014-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:21.1 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:21.1 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0016-0017)

1:21.1 - Good/Plane=2048,2048,

1:21.3 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0016-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:21.3 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:21.3 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0030-0031)

1:21.3 - Good/Plane=2047,2047,

1:21.5 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0030-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:21.6 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:21.6 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0032-0033)

1:21.6 - Good/Plane=2046,2046,

1:21.8 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0032-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:21.8 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:21.8 - Toshiba 24nm block pair (0034-0035)

1:21.8 - Good/Plane=2045,2045,

1:22.0 - 1/1: Write IB-Block (0:0x0034-0,len=16), 1stSectorMask=01

1:22.1 ### Err: Wrong SPARE byte

1:22.1 ### Err: IB-Table create failed.

1:22.1 ### Err:0071 ###

1:22.1 [RESULT] ErrorCode : 0071

[ 2013-12-26 10:00:01 ]

[ UPTool takes 00:01:22 ]

市集達人

市集達人
個人積分：20分
文章編號：49123507

20分

22樓

2014-03-14 13:38

changpizz wrote:
聊到TLC 正好有張...(恕刪)

SLC就不會掛?拿單一case出來說嘴?

MLC剛出來時,也被嫌到臭頭,現在90%以上都是MLC.

紅米就是一個例子,TLC的閃存,大家搶到翻掉.

chiyenms

chiyenms
個人積分：9927分
文章編號：49123983

9927分

23樓

2014-03-14 14:00

JoyRex wrote:
做SSD的Plextor並非做燒錄機的Plextor。
做SSD的Plextor是點燈牌跟Plextor買商標權貼牌製造的。

光寶?

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC

正確一點的話, 應該是光寶集團下的建興電

changpizz

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2014-03-14 14:12

我只是分享圖片也沒批評什麼何必有什麼爭論呢？
三星要是都不怕也不會還搞出模擬SLC先擋著

一支8G的TLC 降至7.2G才有開卡過的機會
R:8M W：2M 這該說是好還是壞大家自問自答即可
每個人標準不盡相同沒啥比較需要
不過跟先前實驗那JM601所少的容量很接近
一個是刻意造成容量減少另一個是天生如此能用的體質
我想我可能不會去搶這種容量的Flash吧
就留給有緣人去收購

SLC 不是不會壞只是我還真的沒見過
手上最小最舊是Intel mSATA 20G
但是最後印象SMART依然是0錯誤

MLC 正好我有一棵 OCZ遭踢爆用非原廠顆粒的產品
這應該能當次極品代表了吧
當年25nm被當垃圾般看待
沒想到現在反翻身變得不算太差了

紅米是怎麼一回事大家也都清楚就別拿出來說嘴了
Flash也分層次的不是都叫MLC就沒好壞差別

log也附上質量如何見仁見智吧但別用紅米像是多高檔的心態討論吧謝謝指教

拿出TLC勝過SLC or MLC的證明來吧不然老是只教你你害不害臊

will3509111

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2014-03-14 14:27

changpizz wrote:
我只是分享圖片也沒...(恕刪)

模擬SLC是為了加速用......

shirokumo

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2014-03-14 14:56

紅米搶到翻掉也可以拿出來講，夠便宜啊....
今天手機用的micro卡也幾乎快是TLC的天下了

版上大家都很專業，知道MLC、TLC
可是一般消費者只管降價了沒，這種東西還是多備份才是王道

JoyRex

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2014-03-14 16:40

到現在哪幾家SDD廠商倒了啊?

OCZ是有TOSHIBA接手玩下去。

changpizz

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2014-03-14 17:58

前幾年的ocz事件我算是很清楚與了非常了解的
所以肯定與這次被收購新聞並不是相同的

小江老爹

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2014-03-14 23:25

我本來就認為SSD不是很可靠的東西..
買一定量來加速系統就夠...

一般人使用, 能用到240G這個級數就差不多了...
要執行加速時再把程式丟進SSD去..

所以我說以"加速系統"為前提, 直接降價是比較合乎要求的...
畢竟, 以SSD的價位, 要兼顧性能及可靠性, 又要把價格降下來..
必然得花更多的時間....

例如像現在一些廠牌SSD 240G已經低於4K了...
如果再下修點, 拿來拼三年保固再壞來重買, 也不是什麼太可惜的事..
反正一般資料是往硬碟塞, 重要資料要有兩份以上檔案儲存, 何慮之有?
就像混合碟SSHD的快取SSD損壞, 剩下資料區硬碟還可以用一樣...
況且即便像大家以往一直認定SSD多不可靠, 但實際上好像真有大災情的大廠也不多見...

changpizz

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2014-03-15 0:00

反正就像今天聽到的話一個願打一個願挨
掏錢的為了被騙才能夠覺得是活著才有動力去工作賺錢
另一邊收錢動動FW用力的騙這樣才有薪水發員工才有活著感覺

不是沒有大問題是大問題只要不影響到這場遊戲的進行就好了
畢竟哪個User能拿出數據能夠證明誰要負責軟體執行問題也能說是系統可能非正版
不然驅動也能說相容性衝突很多話都能爭取時間
u know ...諸如此類的說詞懶得想就說經過測試我們並沒有發現有類似問題電子業不就如此...

三年保的部份你以為還真的有留嘛？反正又不會鎖定不允許使用爛了也是重灌收場
下單客戶就由FAE去說我們下一版FW會解掉這個問題你有去證明幾個那就真的處理幾個
人力這麼精簡的年代誰願意去一個個複驗很多找理由空間遇到大問題就出絕招：這個已經在等原廠那邊處理了

一千個客戶也找不到10個會把SSD塞滿滿的做使用的這麼多空間可以替換誰會成天注意最大容量少多少
對end User又不用像對工業客戶保證處理保證找出還要保證解決
user一旦被拖久了沒有產品得用就會什麼都不想了
能換一顆給他它就不會吵鬧加加起來這麼多機率能用每次都抓到機率又能有多少？
客戶只要不能一口咬定是產品問題就請回第一招
真的倒楣到底就是被抓死死那了不起少一個客人又不是少一張訂單小意思

以上大概就能演的劇情應該都提的差不多了吧～～大哥哥好不好咱們去抓泥鰍！～～
都是滑溜得很想逮住太難了