花青銅 wrote:
有人快要失業哦！🙈...(恕刪)
台灣汽車市場2019年9月銷售報告
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屌打林保基尼 布卡堤凱龍......
真正台灣之光......倒光光
CMC賣得好真的跟市場佔有率比較有關，而不是跟車子真的多好)
目前台灣市場上......
麵包車只有一款(菱利廂車)
國產娃娃車只有一款(得利卡，而且別忘了娃娃車是有法定年限的喔，每幾年就要換新車喔)
好個寡占(不是獨佔，因為市場上確實有其他的"小發財"和貨車存在)
日本D5是多連桿的休旅車，不是葉片彈簧的貨車
但是除了這個之外，日本三菱當然還是有比台灣現款還要新的後續車種可以進的....例如specegear，福特載卡多，或是今年才因為三菱原廠退出商用車市場而停產的"日產NV200換標"之D3
而當然百利現在日本也有比菱利這代還新的後續車了.....新款的福特好幫手之雙生車suzuki carry/every(別跟台灣這得super carry搞混了，兩個不是一款車)
還有... Xpander其實比較有可能是會進他的雙生車，新款的livina
台灣發大財 wrote:
那以前韓國人也是很排斥韓國車的，為什麼還是要買現代呢?
很簡單，韓國禁止進口車24年，想買也沒得買。 ...(恕刪)
針對這點....麻煩您去罵政府為何不限制就好。而不是拿人家被限制(不一定真的忠誠)的時代
來要求我們(沒有被限制的時代)必須達到那種忠誠度
還有....我之前就不只一次提過希望您能提出"韓國受保護時代賣國內品質比較差價格比較貴，來支持國外低售價長期保固"的資料來源以便打臉我這個真的就是找不到這種資料的人(我都只查到韓國國內市場賣的相對於進口車便宜且長期保固的資料)......請問您方便提供一下嗎，拜託
北宜最惡砂石車 wrote:
台灣一堆車廠都有員工...(恕刪)
我覺得納智傑真的可以收起來了
放眼日韓國內車站比率高的應該都是國產車
不比別的 就比車價
就算妥善低後勤好 維修價格平實也能吸引人民購入
現在連自己國人都購買意願不高
那車價有如進口車般的昂貴品質呢? 後勤呢
老是吹噓要跟哪款跑車比
真的很好笑 明明台灣限速就是110
你搞大馬力幹嘛?? 教唆超速 教唆危險駕駛嗎?!
我老實說我很想買納智傑的車
去高雄台南看過但銷售人員真的很辛苦
價錢拚不過 後勤也一般般 最重要是效能更是....
真正經濟實用的購車人群絕對佔大眾
然後跟我抱怨公司居然朝跑車效能方向研發
真是讓他們銷售人員苦不堪言
跟別人比也比不贏 完全買納智傑只有m7(因為刻意阻擋別的對手)
u6妥善高一點點(目前)
不懂進口車商 或共同研發車廠就算了
你掛台灣車廠 你不知道台灣車要啥?
我跟納智傑車廠說就是這幾點
1. 安全 (能送ncap全車撞一遍)創造一股清流
2.油耗相對低(建議渦輪引擎小cc大扭力)
3.後勤保養維修相對親民
4.車價(你都稱國產了還在跟進口差沒幾萬 乾脆別賣了)
要外出打仗可以 你連國內同胞都不買單 去國外只會慘兮兮
尤其到對岸 人家國產車廠一大堆 與時俱進的車款 才能保不被打趴
而且對岸國產車修起來就是親民!!
以上給高層參考!!
希望有朝一日 路上車種多數為納智傑及國產豐田((而不是在豐田獨大了!!
peter790723 wrote:
我覺得納智傑真的可以...(恕刪)
裕隆能被神化到這樣
講什麼裕隆養活了他們之類的
國瑞生產線上的人難道是幹白工的嗎...
六和生產線上也是幹白工的??
三陽生產線上也是幹白工?
看到這種神化自己品牌醜化其他企業看了就覺得厭惡
把自己品牌講得很偉大其他品牌比不過自己企業是最該被唾棄的
光這點就足以讓我打折扣不想買這企業產品
我跟你講馬力再大有多少車主敢採下去油門??
我猜沒幾個吧
會想買這種價位的就是預算受到限制當然買一台妥善率OK的省油後勤保養費用
這才是這個價位要的關鍵點
當然想買性能車的當然會把預算拉高買更好的
光這點就直接PASS掉納智捷
不止定位錯誤連市場要的也沒打進去
賣不好就請寫手去網路捧
賣不好的罪就怪在網路
也不想想看納智捷從頭錯到尾
一臉就是納智捷沒錯有錯的都一定是網路
如果納智捷稱台灣之光就表示
台灣沒人才啦
l6632154j wrote:
針對這點....麻煩...
還有....我之前就不只一次提過希望您能提出"韓國受保護時代賣國內品質比較差價格比較貴，來支持國外低售價長期保固"的資料來源以便打臉我這個真的就是找不到這種資料的人(我都只查到韓國國內市場賣的相對於進口車便宜且長期保固的資料)......請問您方便提供一下嗎，拜託
自己年紀小 沒經歷過 不代表沒發生過
找不到 代表你不夠努力 不代表沒有
這是 韓國人自己的BLOG 出處
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
Why is Hyundai more expensive in Korea?
왜 현대차는 한국서 더 비쌀까?
Why is Hyundai more expensive in Korea?
There have been news articles the same cars manufactured by Hyundai are so much cheaper in other countries (U.S., Canada, Japan, Europe, etc.) than in Korea, the birthplace of those cars.
This is simply unacceptable and very much a mystery to many people. Selling Hyundai cars in U.S. requires shipping, paying some tariffs, and a lot of extra paperworks. It's more time and money and energy consuming.
Then is Hyundai more expensive in Korea? (or Why is Hyundai so cheap in other countries?)
Let's approach this question from a different perspective.
We can ask "Why are imported cars SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE in Korea?"
The answer, as you may all have guessed, is the Korea's not-so-open market.
Simply put, an open market is free of restrictions and there is no friction in transaction.
However, there are so many frictions and restrictions in Korean automobile market.
1. Obvious, "everybody-can-see-it", restrictions such as import tax (tariff)
2. Not-so-obvious "not-easily-seen" restrcitions : You are treated as a cancer to Korean society/economy because you own and drive an imported vehicle, and Korean tax man goes after you the year you register an imported vehicle under your name. Doesn't matter if it's a shitbox from Ford. If it's from abroad, there goest the Korean taxman. (I don't know if this is still true.)
3. Others : Import Dealers often say the reason their prices are so high is because Korean market is so small and there is no chance they can achieve economies of scale. It's somewhat true, but I think it's just a BS. You just ship the car from its origin, mark up, and sell it.
Because of these reasons (and there are probably many other factors, too.), imported cars are very expensive in Korea and guess what it does to Hyundai. They become relatively more competitive in terms of price. They don't have to do anything. Those advantages are just given to them as if they were gifts from the God.
Hyundai is a corporation and a corporation exists for making most profits. And guess what. They do, too. So what do they do? They bump their prices up and up and up until they can sustain their pricing advantages. This is bloody obvious.
But, what would happen if they bumped their prices up in U.S. just like they would do in Korea? Then, they'll probably go out of business. Why? because imported cars (okay, Ford and GM are not "imported" cars in U.S.... anyways.) are so much cheaper there. In other words, Hyundai does not have that gift of automatic price advantages. And what that means is that, in the U.S. auto market, Hyundai is much less competitive.
Then what would have to be done if we want to see the Hyundai's price in Korea is as low as that in other countries?
Open the damn market!
Then, imported cars in Korea will have to be cheaper than they are now. Then what will Hyundai have to do?
1. Work on details, improve their products, close the quality gap between their products and imported vehicles like Toyota and BMW.
OR
2. Lower their price!!!!!!! What else can they do?
What if the market simply won't be opened up?
Let's give an example.
Currently,
- In Korea, a BMW is 50% more expensive than a Hyundai.
- In U.S., a BMW is 20% more expensive than a Hyundai.
Then, In Korea, Hyundai will increase their prices until people in Korea say "BMW is 20% more expensive than a Hyundai in Korea." (By the way, this is what is happening right now in Korea.)
In the end, the percentage difference between a Hyundai and a BMW will be the same in U.S. and Korea. But, people in Korea pay more money for the very same product. Why? All because of the closed market.
This is why closed market is no good. In the end, sellers/manufacturers like Hyundai and BMW can sell the same stuff for more and make more profits, but buyers/consumers take all the hits.
So, Don't blame Hyundai for selling their stuff very cheaply in U.S. Don't blame Hyundai for giving 10-year warranty to the buyers in other countries. don't blame Hyundai building theirs cars to be sold in Korea like junks. (Okay, this is just a rumour, but many people believe so and it may be true...)
What they do as they do is very natural. They want to make profits and squeeze the market until there is no juices left. It is their mission. "Make as much profits as possible!"
If you want to blame anybody, blame that government and beauracrates who created this market full of frictions.
Posted by Taeho Kang at 3:58 AM
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