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轉載 : 被撞毀的SUV,納智捷車體果然勇


zeroppy wrote:
我都有在文中說不是"特仕撞擊車"了


您說的是這台被Hino撞到田裡去的不是"特仕撞擊車",這點我想沒什麼好懷疑的。

而我所說的"特仕撞擊車",是指送ARTC,MIRA,Continental的撞擊車。

這應該是兩回事唄

zeroppy wrote:
抓著Euro NCAP是採協會抽測 無法自行送驗


誰說的?可以去Euro NCAP官網看看,他只是不接受車廠特地送去的"特仕撞擊車"。車廠可以要求受測,只是要照他的規矩抽測試車(參考紅字部分)

不要再相信沒有根據的說法了。

http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Faq/5076ae48-c23c-4933-ad63-0449b3a6425b/cars-chosen-for-testing.aspx


How do you choose which cars to test?

Euro NCAP and its members have limited funds and, unfortunately, we cannot test every model that comes onto the market. However, we want to provide information that is useful to as many people as possible so we try to test those vehicles which will sell in greatest numbers. Euro NCAP’s members nominate cars for testing. The cars they choose may be important to the whole European market or they may have a particular relevance to the member’s home country. The Euro NCAP Secretariat and the Board of Directors try to ensure that most important new models are included in the programme. Inevitably, some cars will not be tested and we would like to know which vehicles you would like to see included. Go here to register your interest.

Cars can also be sponsored by the vehicle manufacturers. Some sponsor most of their models, others very few. The process for selecting the test variant and its safety equipment is exactly the same as for member-sponsored cars, and the same methods for ensuring random selection are used in both cases.


Who funds the crashed car models used in Euro NCAP’s tests?
Each member of Euro NCAP pays to have at least one car model tested each year.Car manufacturers can also request that their car is tested. In such circumstances, manufacturers pay for the testing but they have no control over the publishing of the results. Euro NCAP obtains the cars in a number of ways. In each case, care is taken to ensure that the cars are built to normal production standards. It is clearly important to ensure that we do not test cars which are specially prepared for us. Normally, the cars are paid for by the sponsor of the tests.



beebee40 wrote:
您說的是這台被Hin...(恕刪)



要照他的規矩抽測, 與無法自行送驗我覺得精神一樣阿, 也就是不能是特仕車, 樓上的車友沒說錯阿!

既然沒在歐洲上市, 難道要Euro NCAP來台灣抽測, 可以講個先例嗎?

以旁觀者來說, 心裡有成見, 看什麼都是不對的


juniorchen0202 wrote:
既然沒在歐洲上市, 難道要Euro NCAP來台灣抽測, 可以講個先例嗎?


http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Article/d6abd1b4-a7a9-47d9-a565-d4566d1f7d38/euro-ncap-publishing-first-chinese-vehicle-rating.aspx

這台江鈴陸風CV9的測試結果難道不是中國車廠照著Euro NCAP的規矩抽測的嗎?
by oliver
(是實撞比較符合真實? 還是模擬試撞比較符合真實? suv被撞不就已經得到證明其安全性了? 有何可質疑的?)


非常同意////

而且以砂石車的圖片可知還有載貨 (所以黑紗網蓋住) ,,都衝入田裡(時速 40-60km) ,,砂石車至少 18噸重

http://www.google.com.tw/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=3&oq=%e7%a0%82%e7%9f%b3%e8%bb%8a&hl=zh-TW&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SKPB_enTW305TW306&q=%e7%a0%82%e7%9f%b3%e8%bb%8a%e8%bc%89%e9%87%8d

意思是此次側撞 是Euro NCAP 標準的 6-10 倍 "慣性衝撞力"...
(如同 一手擋下時速 10的腳踏車 ,一手確無法使時速 10的公車),,,差別在此



當然Bee大也跟各位分享許多Euro NCAP 的資訊

感謝 感恩////


beebee40 wrote:
http://www...(恕刪)


"這台江鈴陸風CV9的測試結果難道不是中國車廠照著Euro NCAP的規矩抽測的嗎?"

因為他要出口到德國阿? 不是有車友已說過了嗎

After an unsuccessful first introduction onto the European market in 2005, Landwind returns with the CV9, a mid-sized MPV that achieved two stars in Euro NCAP’s assessment. Eager to erase its poor safety record, Landwind hopes to make a strong comeback with the CV9, which according to the Chinese carmaker ‘has been revamped to meet the strictest European safety standards’. In comparison to competitive vehicles in this segment, however, the car remains poorly equipped, lacking a side protection airbag, a head protection device and electronic stability control. The car was limited to a two star rating by its overall performance although it came close to meeting the three star threshold for adult occupant protection.

Dr Michiel van Ratingen, Euro NCAP’s Secretary General, says ‘It is clear that vehicles from China, India and other emerging countries will in the next few years become commonplace on European roads. Euro NCAP will ensure that consumers know what levels of safety are offered by these vehicles. By highlighting differences in safety performance, we aim to drive the safety of all cars towards and beyond the high levels we see from more well-established manufacturers. We are confident that Landwind and others will rise to this challenge.’

英文應該看的懂吧?
第一行就提到先前在2005歐洲市場的失利
才推出cv9來想藉由提高安全係數 增加賣點
結果還是得到2顆星的慘烈成績

bee大 文章不要斷章取義 看清楚再來PO文好嗎?

beebee40 wrote:
http://www...(恕刪)


您也幫幫忙, 江鈴陸風CV9企圖闖歐洲才會去測的好不好.
http://auto.msn.com.cn/auto_industry/20101117/1160295.shtml
据悉,CV9已在荷兰开始销售,预计2011年将扩展到德国、意大利和比利时等汽车市场。此外,这款车已通过德国TV认证,目前正在进行欧洲安全评价测试(NCAP)。其实,江铃陆风cv9的真正身份是“长安cv9”,它是长安汽车自主研发系列新车型中的一款轿车化mpv,由长安集团联手多家外国工程公司开发。长安与江铃陆风结盟后,把这款正要推出的cv7划归了陆风的产品线,为后者扩充车型、进军乘用车市场加快步伐。

雞毛就是雞毛, 不須拿來當令箭. 英文一知半解也應看的懂簡中吧.

Andreewchen wrote:
by oliver(...(恕刪)


01真的對LUXGEN的待遇不錯呦

侵犯其他媒體版權的人還可以自由發言



花絮結束,回到正題

beebee40 wrote:
這台被Hino撞到田裡去的不是"特仕撞擊車",這點我想沒什麼好懷疑的。


不在相同測試條件下比較

以任何單一事件來下結論都是不客觀

當年的飛羚撞擊測試成績還過去

在實際車禍中

竟然直接斷成兩截

消防隊連破壞車體救人,白車送醫院的動作都免了,黑車直接就可以來收屍

也沒人想得到呀

開版的這案例,車主"僥倖"逃過一劫

要祝福他

不要澆人家冷水啦

更多的納牌車主因為這事件開得更勇敢

就有更多的案件可以加入統計

這樣才科學

各位大大,

我想 Bee大的意思是 " How important of Euro NCAP test" ,,"Why China car can?"

畢竟Euro NCAP 是汽車安全指標,,,就不要再泡嘞...

當2010,Jun time 我同事介紹我 Luxgen SUV時, 我就開始注意它的資料並去試開 (我愛開快車) ,,
操控性非凡 (代表不易被撞失控或xx失控而傷害他人)


當2010.Sep time 上Mobile01時 發現 Luxgen SUV結構剛性 20045nm/degree ,(BMW X5 29500 nm/degree)時

我就瞭解 Taiwan第二次自我品牌 Luxgen 在做甚麼 ------"口碑" ,,因為 Taiwan裕隆不會有第三次機會嘞//


從這次車禍,,,證明 裕隆的決定及堅持是對的 --- 結構剛性 20045nm/degree & 6 airbags (用鋼多,貴)
(救嘞 一個生命)


http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=444&t=1908093&r=9&last=24607006
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=444&t=1894194&r=10&last=24498494

狠可惜 :Luxgen廣告不訴求操控性及汽車安全---這是一台車的本質

他牌國產代工車進入臺灣 ,,,能偷的料(板金,鋼骨用料,焊點數,),,都偷了---只買到外型 及國外側試報告

所以國外側試報告沒用
不是對LUXGEN的待遇不錯!

而是它保住車主的生命,所以才被讚許!

如果它仍像當年的飛羚一樣,那還會受到網友的稱讚嗎?

而之前的門把事件、熄火事件,不也是被罵慘了?

所以有對它特別的待遇嗎? 最多只是對國產車的期許罷了!

好的相機並不會讓初學者變成一位攝影家, 但好的相機卻可以將其心所願者化為實現! ~~~ 因為我是永遠的菜鳥 !
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