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使用Android Pay的人, 你們手機的螢幕上鎖時間(手機休眠[螢幕全暗]後)都是設定甚麼?

像我這個從來 沒有在手機的螢幕上鎖的人 因為裝了 Android Pay之後 被迫要把手機的螢幕上鎖
所以我現在每次滑手機都要 先做解鎖的動作 實在太麻煩了,,,

為什麼不讓用戶自己選擇(二選一)
1. 鎖上 手機的螢幕上鎖 但不需要開啟App就能支付
2. 不需鎖上 手機的螢幕上鎖 但需要開啟App且需要輸入App密碼或用指紋 才能支付

現在每次要滑手機都很龜覽趴火


上網用英文查詢 原來國外真的也有很多人和我一樣在抱怨這一個問題啊
https://www.google.com.tw/search?q=Android+pay+lock+screen&oq=Android+pay+lock+screen&aqs=chrome..69i57.16951j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


剛剛 凍未條 寫 英文信給 Android Pay

Why doesn’t have alternative for the user regarding "screen lock" to use Android Pay?

I am the person who never use screen lock (PIN, password, symbol or fingerprint while activating my phone. However, since I used Android Pay, I must use “screen lock”. I so hate using “screen lock” while activating my phone because it is very inconvenient for use. I trust the environment I stay. For security reason, I know why Android Pay force the user has to use screen lock. Buy why doesn’t have alternative for the user regarding "unlock screen" to use Android Pay? Android Pay is supposed to make the user to choose what he/she prefer to do so. Option 1: force "screen lock" on the phone, but not necessary to turn on App while making payment for transaction. Option 2: don't force "screen lock” on the phone, but need to turn on App and enter password or fingerprint while making payment for transaction.

chih_haohung wrote:
像我這個從來 沒有...(恕刪)


我覺得 Google 很難,在香港點亮螢幕就可以刷,被罵不安全...都說Apple pay 指紋比較安全。

果粉愛瘋愛配在兩三年前,就被強迫鎖屏,一開始大家也不習慣,久了就好了。

現在指紋辨識 android 手機也是標配,拿起手機就將手指放上去,秒解無感,就沒所謂輸入密碼的問題
alfchen wrote:
我覺得 Google 很難,在香港點亮螢幕就可以刷,被罵不安全...都說Apple pay 指紋比較安全。

果粉愛瘋愛配在兩三年前,就被強迫鎖屏,一開始大家也不習慣,久了就好了。

現在指紋辨識 android 手機也是標配,拿起手機就將手指放上去,秒解無感,就沒所謂輸入密碼的問題



1. Apple Pay也有被強迫 上螢幕鎖? 還是 App鎖(我知道Apple Pay一靠近店家的NFC裝置會自動開啟App, 這時就要用指紋)?  你會不會把 螢幕鎖 和 App鎖 搞混呢?


2. 世界上目前 Android手機 在消費者手中的 有支援NFC 超過7成沒有支援指紋


我只是希望Android Pay讓用戶自行選擇 不要強制上螢幕鎖



chih_haohung wrote:
1. Apple Pay...(恕刪)


Apple ios 強制上鎖是在 apple pay 上市之前,跟pay 不 pay 無關,只是資安考量
強烈懷疑是為了home指紋辨識機制的推廣,強化當年apple與android差異。

只是 apple pay 在付款前還要按一下指紋(不管有沒有開屏),
現在android pay把程序往前移一步而已(android 指紋不是標配),大家感覺比較差,實際上流程管制控制點相同,

就跟 windows 設15分鐘上鎖,大家習慣就好,也沒人罵公司IT為何要上鎖....不鎖,ISO稽核/會計師就不會過。

alfchen wrote:
Apple ios...(恕刪)


只是為什麼不讓用戶自己選擇(二選一)
1. 鎖上 手機的螢幕上鎖 但不需要開啟App就能支付
2. 不需鎖上 手機的螢幕上鎖 但需要開啟App且需要輸入App密碼或用指紋 才能支付

我本來就從來不把我的Android系統的手機的螢幕上鎖了 可以讓我這種人選擇 option 2 來使用 Android Pay嗎?

chih_haohung wrote:
感謝提供 情報你有...(恕刪)


昨天也是拿ZenFone2 綁中信卡到全聯首刷
沒注意到上鎖時間設定問題一刷就成功
剛剛確認了一下
我的設定是5秒後上鎖
給大家參考

syiau wrote:
昨天也是拿ZenFone2 綁中信卡到全聯首刷
沒注意到上鎖時間設定問題一刷就成功
剛剛確認了一下
我的設定是5秒後上鎖
給大家參考


感謝分享 前面已經有人分享 15秒上鎖 也是成功付款的....

其實你在靠近商家/店家的NFC裝置 前, 你一定有做解鎖螢幕上鎖的動作吧?
chih_haohung wrote:
只是為什麼不讓用戶...(恕刪)


2. 不需鎖上 手機的螢幕上鎖 但需要開啟App且需要輸入App密碼或用指紋 才能支付


如果能改成像Apple Pay的支付方式:不需鎖上手機的螢幕上鎖,但重點是支付時會<自動開啟>App,使用指紋方式支付,這樣就完美了!
如果手機沒有支援指紋辨識時,建議更換有支援指紋辨識的手機,因為
指紋辨識方便又快速(真的是不到一秒的秒解).
承襲第31樓, 沒想到 Android Pay 那麼快就回覆我了 今天(2017.06.05)下午01:30剛剛收到


Hi Chih-Hao,


Thank you for contacting Google Payments service. Greetings for the day.

I appreciate your efforts for bringing the issue you are facing to our notice. Be assured, we'll surely find ways to help you with this.

Please be informed, as you know the app lets you pay in stores by placing your device near a contactless terminal. With Android Pay, you can securely store your credit or debit card information on your device to make payments at merchant terminals where wireless payment technology is available. Because you have the card details in your device we added the feature of unlocking the device for safe and secure payments.

That being said, with the point you have mentioned in your comments is actually a great idea. The alternative for our customers regarding "unlock screen" to use Android Pay. I am glad to inform you that I have taken your concern as a feedback and forwarded to my specialist on priority. While I was interaction with my team about this they have appreciated and thanked you for this idea. We always appreciate customers who take the time to give us their feedback. Even I feel if we come up with this action, it will be great feature to simplify and serve better.

Your feedback means a lot to us on constantly improving our processes and standards. You have been one of the delightful customers with a long lasting relation. Your visibility and concentration about our product, has provided us to look into this with highest degree of attention. Lastly, I truly believe being honest is better than faking any kind perfections. I respect your endurance while we work on this feature. Your question has allowed us to raise the quality as your perception of us is reflection of your efforts and interests.

You can also send feedback from your end. Here is how: to send us feedback from support.google.com, please click on Product. Then, click Send feedback about the Help Center at the bottom of any page. Feedback and feature requests from customers like you help us constantly improve our products.

I am very sure we will very soon come up with this new feature request and more many add on's in Android Pay.

Thanks!
Gwarl A
Google Support Team

chih_haohung wrote:
只是為什麼不讓用戶自己選擇(二選一)
1. 鎖上 手機的螢幕上鎖 但不需要開啟App就能支付
2. 不需鎖上 手機的螢幕上鎖 但需要開啟App且需要輸入App密碼或用指紋 才能支付

我本來就從來不把我的Android系統的手機的螢幕上鎖了 可以讓我這種人選擇 option 2 來使用 Android Pay嗎?


我終於找到一種最接近 第2種選擇 的方法了

教學如下
1.先到 "設定" 的 "鎖定螢幕", 參數請設定 "休眠 立即後", 螢幕鎖定方式 我是選"PIN"(你可以任一選擇 圖形,PIN,密碼,指紋 其中一種)


2.再到 "安全性" 選擇 "Smart Lock"


3.由於我在"鎖定螢幕"是選擇"PIN", 所以我要輸入我自己設定的"PIN code"


4.再選擇"人體感測"


5."開啟"


PS:人體感測:只要不在身上或手上,我有測試過放在桌上,大概1分鐘30秒就會把螢幕自動上鎖了

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我的手機是ASUS Zenfone 2  5.5吋 4GB/32GB, Android Pay目前綁定 中國信託的信用卡

我今天下午特地去 全聯福利中心 測試,
1.從我離開家前還在滑手機到全聯福利中心內,這一段我花了5分鐘,我這5分鐘沒滑手機但由於我是把手機帶在身上多多少少有震動和移動(因為使用"人體感測"模式時候,手機的螢幕是不會上鎖的)
2.我再花約1分鐘選購一瓶礦泉水然後去櫃台結帳
3.當我把手機滑動一下螢幕變亮時候,也不需要解除螢幕上鎖直接就進入手機的桌面了(因為使用"人體感測"模式時候,手機的螢幕是不會上鎖的),然後我把手機貼在商家/店家的NFC裝置,突然手機螢幕自動出現一個要我輸入PIN的畫面,說我要使用Android Pay的話要輸入PIN,我把手機取回來並輸入PIN Code,然後再把手機貼在商家/店家的NFC裝置,然後馬上付款交易成功

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再次加碼1, 你也同時可以設定(只要在家, 你的手機可以免除強制螢幕上鎖)



再次加碼2, 你也同時可以設定(如果你有戴"智慧手環"或"智慧手錶"等行動裝置的話, 在一定距離(藍芽收發的距離)內, 你的手機可以免除強制螢幕上鎖)


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