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[心得--圖少]407 HDi

好車一部,只是一想到它的後維保養就會OOXX。
不過版主的車車真的是很漂亮
國外的評價並不是很好的一輛車, 知名汽車雜誌只給了三顆星的評價...(Passat & 520 都是四顆星)

但是買車本來就是見仁見智, 很主觀的事情, 重要的是自己喜歡!

我之前是 206 車主, 後來轉投 GOLF TDI 的懷抱, 品質比較起來真的是有差別的, 只希望技嘉三年的保固能有實質上的幫助...

並不是想潑板大冷水, 只是給各參考, 看看車評認為的缺點會不會困擾你...

下面轉錄自英國汽車雜誌(看的懂英文的話, 可以參考一下): whatcar. com

FOR: Handsome 407 is comfortable and very refined. It's also packed full of safety equipment.

AGAINST: The saloon body shape limits the 407’s versatility in a class dominated by hatchbacks.

ON THE ROAD

Performance ***
The 407 now comes with four turbodiesels: a 1.6-litre with 110bhp and 180lb ft of pull, a 2.0-litre with 136bhp and 240lb ft of pull, a 2.2 with 170bhp and 273lb ft, and a twin-turbo 2.7 with 205bhp and 330lb ft of pull. There’s a 2.2 petrol with plenty of urge, along with 1.8, 2.0 and 3.0 V6 petrol motors, the latter with a six-speed auto

Ride & handling **
At low speeds the 407 doesn’t cope well with poor surface conditions. Things improve at higher speeds, but the ride is still not as supple as class best. There is good grip through corners, but the 407 is far from agile and the steering feels wooden and unresponsive.

Refinement ****
Road and wind noise are impressively subdued in the 407 to make it a relaxed long-distance machine. The engines stay calm when cruising and only make themselves heard when worked to their maximum. Some diesel grumble is audible at town speeds, but the turbodiesels are not coarse.

OWNERSHIP

Buying & owning ****
Our favourite engines in the 407 are the turbodiesels, which are impressively economical; the 1.6 HDI<\p>averages more than 50mpg on the combined cycle, meaning cheap fuel bills. The 3.0 V6 petrol will be heavy on fuel, is unlikely to be a big seller and will lose much more of its value than the other engine variants, so is least favourite.

Quality & reliability ****
The 407 has a smart appearance, and the assembly is solid, so it should stand up well to family use. The engines use proven technology, so the car should remain relatively trouble-free.

Safety & security *****
All 407s come with twin front, side and curtain airbags and a knee ’bag under the steering column. Executive models have side airbags in the back. These cost £400 on other versions as part of a safety pack that includes pre-tensioning rear seatbelts and laminated side glass to prevent thieves breaking in. Anti-lock brakes, electronic stability control, an alarm and deadlocks are fitted as standard across the range.

IN THE CABIN

Behind the wheel **
The 407’s awkward driving position is one of the worst aspects of the car. Despite steering wheel adjustment for depth and angle, and driver’s seat height adjustment it is still not easy to get comfortable. All of the major controls are well positioned, but the centre console has a profusion of buttons that are confusing to use

Space & practicality ***
Peugeot has stuck with a saloon shape for the 407, so it can’t match the versatility its hatchback rivals offer. However, there’s plenty of space for four adults, and three can fit across the rear seat. Rear headroom is tight for those over six feet tall, but kneeroom is generous. The boot is large and suffers no suspension intrusion.

Equipment ****
All 407 models come with climate control, electric front windows, a CD player and cruise control. SE models add alloy wheels and powered rear windows, while stepping up to sport trim will earn you part-leather seats, parking sensors and a CD changer. GT models come with satellite-navigation.






英國的車評都很毒舌的, 而且好像全天下最好的還是英國的 Aston Martin, Land Rover, Jaguar...
不過這些廠牌早就都被賣掉了...

而品牌光環在全世界都一樣, Mercedes, BMW, VW 靠著是德國的廠牌, 多加一顆星也是很正常的.
連 Toyota, Honda 因為經濟性與可靠度, 加顆星也是常有的事.
但如果這些因素都不是您選車的重點, 那麼加的這顆星也就意義不大了.

Jason_Chen wrote:
並不是想潑板大冷水, 只是給各參考, 看看車評認為的缺點會不會困擾你......(恕刪)

是還好啦(可能是英文不太好 有看沒有很懂)
為了買車 我看的雜誌,網站,問過的人真的是算不完
不過買車真的是要看需求
因為大部分人認為的缺點反而可能是優點
例如:
1.407前座"似乎"沒有菸灰缸,至少我找不到,對我這種不吸菸的人,覺得還不錯
2.很多人提到的座椅問題,我反而覺得407的座椅設計及視野真的很棒
407座椅先天就比較高,一開始沒感覺,是因為常常看到其它車的車頂,
後來發現,407前座最舒服的調法是要坐低一點,不是座椅調低,而是人要坐低一點
當坐低以後,頭可以完全靠在頭枕上,不用擔心視野會影響, 因為它的座椅比較高
而且這樣坐以後,兩旁的三角窗就能發揮補足視野的功能 過彎時會對到前輪的"彎點"(不知道這樣形容對不對)
如果是在高速公路,左手可以很舒服的放在門上的扶手(它有個斜度可以讓左手很舒服的放著),再把右手扶手升起,右手臂撐在扶手上並由右手穩定方向盤
這樣的姿勢真的很舒服,停完車還會讓人想多坐幾分鐘
我對407座椅的感想是:它不像桶型座椅那樣會把人固定在椅中, 而是讓你有很大的自由度,不會讓人感到很僵硬
有機會再補幾張內裝的圖(因為現在要去南投逛逛,這可能是換車最大的缺點)
Jason_Chen wrote:
國外的評價並不是很好...(恕刪)


其實這個評論算是滿客觀的,不過觀察兩顆星以下的部分都是因為跑車化的外型所不得以的缺點,其餘部部分評價並不低,407能在英國的WHATCAR有如此評價,已經很不錯了英法可是世仇呢。雖然407全球都賣不好是事實,但就一本雜誌的評論就推斷外國評價不好,對這點比較存疑。
恭喜樓主啊~好美的一台車~!

我已經看了半年的車~,還在觀望中 ,407是最接近購買條件的車,只是一方面年底車展就要到了,一方面自己的老SAAB小毛病修一修又是好漢一條,換車的迫切性不高。(上兩次颱風也剛好都在風雨最大時上個北二高,感覺穩的很)


鼯鼠五技而窮~早死早超生
比較起來 C5 II 又比早幾年面世的 407 精進了不少, 我還在等 Citroen 的代理狀況明朗, 看 C5 II 有沒有機會引進...

407 快小改了, 國外已經有在拍宣傳照時被抓到的間諜照, 應該明年的日內瓦車展前就會發表.
據稱車頭會大改成 308 的 F1 車鼻加牙套, 看起來是比現行款立體些. 不急著換車的, 可以再等等看.

恭喜購入好車一部,法國人的造車理念其實是最實用的,安全、環保、動力夠用就好
早期 PSA 以操控性著名,現在為了迎合大眾市場,做了很多努力,下了不少功夫
雖然現今底盤不像之前那麼機械式操控,但是基本功夫還是做得比其他車廠好,不僅人性化又兼具駕馭樂趣

而且PSA HDI 柴油引擎的噪音抑制性,國內媒體試駕心得皆認為勝過 VW 集團TDI的唷
至於 VW 那位業代說的話實在是 把自己賣的車講的比神還要神
不曉得樓主買的 407hdi 有無啥優惠?? 現在也在看這部車當中說...
bohemianx629 wrote:
不曉得樓主買的 40...(恕刪)

已PM給你
順帶一提(因為太多人問了)
我是10月買的, 這個月應該更優惠, "也許"可以低於訂價的9折

目前已破2400km, "還沒"遇到任何問題, 變速箱學習能力很強, 低速換檔越來越順, 起步比起剛牽時更順, 當然, 中高速表現還是很不錯
另外, 油耗部分比起第一次保養後有略為變好, 也許跟天氣有關(全程開空調, 音響)

PS. 內裝圖這一兩天會補上
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