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南加州留學的生活費,住宿費,就這樣。。

StefanL wrote:
這篇文章有點老.... 1998年

以我的經驗來說,兩個人五千可以過很爽.... 很多工程師家庭一個月生活開銷都不到五千....


1998年低收入老人拿五六百
十幾年後應該拿更多吧?

你的論點一直是不包房租
但這是不實際的
一個工程師家庭如果是五千塊包房租或是房貸的話
只能說還過的去
這樣如果說很爽的話
標準是低了點

Katong wrote:
純好奇問一下, 兵單...(恕刪)


剛剛打給ica ,他們是說沒有年齡限制,只是手續要申請人來辦

一旦renounce PR 就不用當兵。政府會給你一個月離開新加坡

然而,以後要回新加坡工作或居住的機會就是微乎其微了。(還是可以旅遊,會不會刁難不知。)













waynechao wrote:
剛剛打給ica ,他們是說沒有年齡限制,只是手續要申請人來辦

一旦renounce PR 就不用當兵。政府會給你一個月離開新加坡


你如果100%確定,是沒關係.

放棄PR當然是沒有年齡限制,50歲也可以放棄,
許多外國PR為了要提取CPF的錢,都放棄PR.

問題在於NS, 我的印象中是第二代的PR,16歲要放棄,並離境.
不然就要被register準備服役.
NS的主管機關不是ICA, 你最好問Ministry of Defence.



Pre-enlistees between 13 to enlistment age



All male Singapore citizens and Permanent Residents are liable for National Service (NS). They will be enlisted at the earliest opportunity upon reaching 18 years old.
雪梨沒那麼貴啦...我就在雪梨

一個月一個人約花$1300澳幣而已(含住宿)

學費一年是$26000澳幣左右

我在這兩年半囉....你可以考慮到這邊
I live in Irvine.

Car payment - $300+/mth if you have no credit in the US. That's like a Honda Fit or Civic DX at best.
Car insurance - $800 a year

Gas- used to be $80+ but price is still going up. Maybe $100 if you travel less than 25 miles a day.

Rent - get student housing, that'd be around $900/mth including utilities. That's wifi, cable, gas, water, garbage, and electricity.
If not, you can get lower rating places for about $1300/ 2BD to higher quality apt for $1900/ 2BD, of course, utilities not included.

Utilities - electricity: if you don't turn on the central air at all, $40-$50/mth/unit. If you have laundry units, use central air, have an electrical stove, it could go up to $150-$200. Water/garbage/gas is about $10/BD/mth each. Internet can be slow as hell and that's $20/mth, or a little better for $40. If you get bundle services for cable and Internet plus landline, you could score a decent deal for less than $100 with some companies for a 12 month period. After that just cancel and sign up again.

Cell phone - well, this depends on if you have a smart phone, if yes, you are looking at at least $110/mth for the lowest plan in any company for a 2 line family plan, and that's not including text msg. Mine is $135/mth for 2 iPhones, everything unlimited. If you have a regular phone, no text msg, you might get $70 for 2 lines, or go prepaid. All contracts are 2 yrs minimum, so you might want to think about that.

Groceries - depends where you shop and how you shop. If you get coupons and shop at grocery stores with reward programs, you can get away with $40-$60 per week per person. That's if you only cook and eat at home. If not, maybe $60 every 2 weeks would suffice.

Eating out - Chinese/Korean restaurants could range from $15(single portion) to $30 (hotpot, fancy family style)with tax and tips. Others like sushi - easily $30/person, new American $30, fast food $10, bar and food $30-$40. I spend maybe $120 eating out each month... So it really depends.

Entertainment! $6 for a movie before noon, $12-16 at night. Dollar theaters are around too so if you don't mind watching 007 4 months after everyone else then you are good. Kareoke $25/person all you can sing. There isn't much to do in irvine so I save a lot on that. If you like to go around, there's Disney, universal, San Diego parks, all around $80 to $120 admission.

Say, I work and live by myself with my dog, my expense is about $1800 to $2000. Rent and utility alone are $1100, Car payment $360 (CRV) insurance $80, cellphone $65.

My friend on the other hand being in college UCI, around all rich kids, spends maybe $2800 - $3000 a month.

So it all depends on how you wanna live and what kind of people you hang out with.


Some of the things you won't be able to get or do if you don't have a social security number, so I'd keep that in mind.
Katong wrote:
放棄PR當然是沒有年齡限制,50歲也可以放棄,
許多外國PR為了要提取CPF的錢,都放棄PR.


最近在考慮要不要申請PR 畢竟也繳了兩年的稅

但我聽到的是就算後來renounce PR CPF的錢也不一定會拿回來

昨天一個在地的跟我說 以前好像有過例子 很多馬來的用這招 後來政府學乖的樣子
skullssss wrote:
最近在考慮要不要申請PR 畢竟也繳了兩年的稅

但我聽到的是就算後來renounce PR CPF的錢也不一定會拿回來

昨天一個在地的跟我說 以前好像有過例子 很多馬來的用這招 後來政府學乖的樣子

你的認知不正確, 你可以上ICA , CPF的網站查一下.

我簡單告訴你一下.

新加坡與馬來西亞有許多爭議待解決,撇開前年解決的馬來亞鐵道公司的土地產權,還有水供合約,
與領空爭議等等. 扣下CPF的錢是當談判籌碼,以圖綁在一起,配套解決.

新加坡不許來自西馬(馬來亞半島)的馬來西亞人在屆齡後,全額提取CPF.
奇怪的是,一樣是馬來西亞人,來自東馬(沙巴/沙勞越)的人卻可以在放棄PR後,立刻提取CPF.
因為絕大多數的馬國勞工都來自西馬.

至於所有其它國家的人,可在任何時候放棄PR ,立刻全額提取CPF.

不過,最近新加坡排外的風聲四起, PAP 輸掉了許多議席,我想申請PR的難度會提高.


Katong wrote:
至於所有其它國家的人,可在任何時候放棄PR ,立刻全額提取CPF.

不過,最近新加坡排外的風聲四起, PAP 輸掉了許多議席,我想申請PR的難度會提高.


多謝了 這樣最好

有過沒過就up to ICA了

我只想藉著CPG強迫自己儲蓄跟公司額外提撥的那塊

Thanks again
昨天晚上問了ns.sg

他們都說只要一放棄,就不用當兵了,只是老話一句,這輩子想要再長期居住在新加坡幾乎是不可能了。

文件當要去ica 弄好。聽他們說好像還要見面跟官員談一下。。。

原本來想說可不可以用PR身分去讀大學,回頭來再當兵。

確認是不可行的,因為新加坡的教育體系必須先當完兵才能讀大學。

如果強制出境讀大學,下一次入境新加坡就會被逮捕。

去加州遊學幾個月非常贊同,因為我以前也去過二個月,回憶滿滿.但如果去那讀野雞大學幾年,還是別去了,台灣也有野雞大學一堆了,比加州的便宜多了!! 錢留著給國人賺啦
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