Earlier this week, Fourth-Place Medal created our version of the Olympic medal count, which ignores results from judged sports in order to provide an unbiased look into the total medal tallies of the countries. (For a more detailed explanation, check out the original post.) With just three days left in the Beijing Games, we thought it would be a good time to update the standings. First, though, some points of clarification:
1) The reason the United States and China are the only countries listed is because they're the two countires competing for the overall medal lead.
2) This tabulation is not meant to suggest that every medal won in a judged sport is tainted. For every Cheng Fei (the Chinese gymnast who inexplicably received a bronze medal in the vault despite landing on her knees) there is a Guo Jingjing (the flawless two-time gold medalist diver who was a clear winner in her events).
3) As Joel Achenbach pointed out in an article in today's Washington Post, almost all sports are subject to types of judging errors -- baseball relies on umpires to call balls and strikes, soccer referees influence the game with their penalties, etc. The difference is, the officials in those sports exist to control the game, not to decide it.
4) The events thrown out of our medal tally are: diving, equestrian, gymnastics, judo, synchronized swimming, taekwondo, trampoline and wrestling
First, the actual medal count:
Gold
Silver
Bronze
Total
China 46 15 22 83
United States
29 34 32 95
Next, the REAL medal count:
Gold
Silver
Bronze
Total
United States
25 26 25 76
China 23 12 13 48
For the first time in our tabulation, the United States has passed China in gold medals. The Chinese have a staggering 23 golds in judged events, exactly half of their regular total. The United States has just four golds in such sports. In total, China has earned 35 medals in sports with judges, while the U.S. has 19.
e36coupe wrote:
只有你在計較著奬牌怎...(恕刪)
1：只有你試圖用自相矛盾、漏洞百出的可笑邏輯來搗糨糊，結果被抓個正著
——還在獻醜式的把玩搞笑的“閱讀方便”嗎？
不要羞羞答答用模糊焦點的“不同意見”來遮掩你邏輯混亂的事實，更不要指責別人“斤斤計較”，對罔顧事實、混淆邏輯等“惡行”不“計較”，就是對人類理性的犯罪~~
2： 一方面用狹隘逼仄的“唯有讀書高”式陳腐價值觀來詆毀體育、藝術等人生實現方式，另一方面卻自吹“多元化”——人格分裂到如此地步實在難得一見~
既然你承認被逼上學，還自幼就進行了“集中營”的嚴酷學校教育過程，還談何“自由選擇”？那整肅社會價值實現體系的源頭不妨就從你開始吧——或許你認為“自由”的選擇當乞丐，人生會比較快樂吧~~你既然不了解職業體育的艱辛，那又何必自取其辱呢？ phelps七歲開始游泳，11歲進入專業訓練。每周七天，每天十一小時，每周遊行十萬米以上，因為其父認為“如果不從小進行大運動訓練，無法建立強大心肺功能”；還因為拒絕訓練被父親一人丟在游泳池——你是否也要提phelps鳴不平，并認為這種“非人道”的“集中營”方式嚴重損害了phelps的身心健康，阻礙了其自由意志的實現？對啊，小小的phelps拿八枚金牌算什麽？關鍵是遵循自由意志和人道主義的無敵準則，否則十八枚金牌也只是“被逼”的奴隸罷了~~
3：咦？誰“狂妄自大”了？說出“不同意見”就是“狂妄自大”？
是不是應該先探究一下有沒有一顆自卑扭曲的心靈在暗夜中飄蕩，看誰都是“狂妄自大”？？
岩土工程 wrote:
1：只有你試圖用自相...(恕刪)
1.你抓到什麼？
一開始別人回應裡就說了哪一種排法都可以，你非要用金牌當唯一的計算方式，不代表了你心胸狹窄目光如豆嗎？最好笑的是你找不到反駁別人觀點的說詞，就不負責任的隨便幻想別人反對或支持哪一種排法，想混肴視聽來掩蓋你的心虛， 等別人把原文再重貼出來，你胡亂指控的說法被人揭穿了，現在又說別人模糊焦點了？2.別人都把影片放上來了，你還睜眼說瞎話的說那些小孩是自己的選擇
，還叫人拿出証據，你是選擇性的失明嗎？3. 你一直提phelps，你那麼崇拜他那是你的自由，但在我眼裡，他只是一個得了八面金牌的美國人，其他對我一點意義也沒有
4. 我自己選擇我想從事的職業，和喜歡被人支配、安排人生方向的某些人不同
5. 去照照鏡子看看什麼叫狂妄自大吧
…或許還看得到自卑扭曲的心靈
funfun168 wrote:
I want to ...(恕刪)
This is the most halarious analysis.
1) No one ever competed for the overall medals. It was always gold medals in the last 10 olympics.
China was only hoping to beat US in gold medals in this olympics and they did.
Besides, Silver/Bronze medals never existed in the first olympics two thousand years ago. They were later added to compliment the 2nd/3rd place.
2) US media is starting to cry because you guys lose the gold medals in gym? Get a life and accept the fact. The judges are from IOC, not from china.
3) Why don't u ask IOC to cancel all those events? Why didn't American protest about it in the last 10 olympics when they dominate?
4) Keep working on your calculation so you can beat china in gold medals.
American can't accept the fact that they're no longer the number 1 in olympics, just like they are no longer considered the leader in the world.
American are ignorant and not as open-minded as they were 20 years ago.
I'm not particularily in love with china, but your ignorance just make me sick.
Now it makes sense why Bin laden bombed you guys.
所谓中国人的劣根性，很多忙不迭划清界线的“台湾人”身上也明白存在。
e36coupe wrote:
1.你抓到什麼？一開...(恕刪)
1：抓到一個“一開始”大叫“閱讀方便”，被戳破就開始搭著腦袋“沒興趣”的滑稽角色啊~~
初始拿出一個不值一駁的“閱讀方便”想蒙混過關，不曾想立刻被抓包就迅即聲稱“沒興趣”~~為何不講“閱讀方便”的說辭繼續下去呢？怕丟醜？“心虛”到“沒興趣”的詞窮境地， 丑角就只有豹變之速很令人欽佩~~2：證據？是你自娛自樂的證據嗎？
既然你已經承認自己也曾“被逼”上學，那是不是在“集中營”式的學校教育過程中度過青少年時期？——是，還是不是？不敢回答？不能回答？3：意義就在於你要承認phelps的苦練及之後的成功也是“被逼”，且這種“被逼”只有負面價值，這才構成無法證偽你所謂“被逼”論的依據——快證明啊~~繼續找證據啊~~
4：你如何證明你選擇了你“想從事的職業”？
既然從小被逼上學，你如何知道你就只能適合現在所從事的職業，而不是體育、繪畫、舞蹈等其他門類？這又和你“能從事的職業”的區別在哪裡？乞丐也會說乞討是他的個人選擇~~5：只有自卑的小丑才會習慣性的通過詆毀他者來獲得畸形自尊，比如貽笑大方的“閱讀方便”之流——這種角色在哪裡呢？
e36coupe wrote:
1你抓到什麼？一開始別人回應裡就說了哪一種排法都可以，
2你非要用金牌當唯一的計算方式，不代表了你心胸狹窄目光如豆嗎？
3最好笑的是你找不到反駁別人觀點的說詞，就不負責任的隨便幻想別人反對或支持哪一種排法，想混肴視聽來掩蓋你的心虛， ...(恕刪)
1-單就第一點就覺得大家批評你的排法是錯的了，可是你到現在還在狡辯！再不反省只能鬧更多笑話！
2-那大家拼銀銅牌就好啦，拿金牌幹嗎？金牌的可貴是代表最強的，代表追求最高最快的境界！
而且是世界每個國家公認的公平排法，
所以是你自己心胸狹窄目光如豆吧！好笑的是你不愿意面對事實還說別人目光如豆！
哈哈哈，大家來看看，自取其辱啊！
3-你人格分裂嗎？怎麼覺得你在說你自己，原來你在批評你自己！！！哈哈哈
以下一句話就顯露你的心態了，就可以把你的是非不分的觀念打到了：
說得好像很有道理，還不是腦袋裡藏著根深蒂固的凡是中國的都不好的狹隘觀念作祟！！！
能誠實的回答自己這個問題再來說吧！
1金牌的珍貴價值在那裡？
2在你心裡原來銀，銅牌和金牌是一樣價值的嗎？
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈啊哈啊哈哈哈哈哈哈哈發啊哈哈哈哈哈哈啊哈哈啊哈哈哈哈，好笑啊！
e36coupe wrote:
從來就沒人否定金牌...(恕刪)
我想可以這么說吧，金牌的多少說明了一個國家擁有的世界最高競技水平的項目的多寡。
而獎牌總數的多寡，可以說明這個國家運動發展的平均程度（但是并不頂尖，不排除運氣因素），也可以說是體育發展的潛力（能拿到銀，銅的選手，下屆搞不好就奪金了）
美國獎牌最多，不能否認它在各個項目上都很有實力，下屆搞不好它的潛力爆發拿了個第一……但是事實也說明他所得的金牌數輸人一等，只能說他在很多項目上不再代表世界最高水平了，例如牙買加田徑實力的崛起是有目共睹的
e36coupe wrote:
獎牌榜的目的又是什麽？
這個問題恕小弟無知。。無法給出個答案，還望指教。。
難道獎牌榜還有什麽其他高深的目的
認真就輸了
心平氣和的討論不是很爽的嗎
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