JerryKS wrote:
這太多人對於太陽能有...(恕刪)
德國已經決定有計劃性淘汰核能.
-HY- wrote:
農人從中被剝削跟地理環境人口有什麼關係
倒是跟惡質文化比較有關係吧？
我提的根本也不是什麼了不起的東西, 說做不到而不去做是自欺欺人罷了
農人被剝削???
有人務農到年薪百萬筆比皆是..
還真不知道問題出在那裡???
跟地理環境人口為何沒關係??
澳洲隨便一個務農的規模有多大??台灣規模多大??
你數量大,就是你決定價格...你量少,就是你想辦法給人收..
且現在台灣還有多少地可以務農????
這還不是問題???
呵呵...你提的東西台灣哪樣沒試過??做的下去誰不想繼續??
提了一堆實行不了的理想化概念...不也只是自欺欺人???
我出概念你們做不到都你們的問題...跟提概念的人無關....
真是好有見地
如果有政治人物選舉又拿出來講，那麼太陽能的未來請先建構一個未來城吧。
藍綠都有直轄市，就看誰能做出太陽能直轄市政府辦公室的未來真實運作典範吧。
（不是買面板就是會用太陽能，市政府先用在說吧，做不到全天全年都只用太陽能的市政府，那就不要亂開口核能問題與太陽能是萬能的結論）
德國淘汰了核能嗎？
暫停營運七個舊款核能電廠，以後評估再營運。
這樣也算淘汰核能？
如果你要用德國為例，你若未來看到德國說明未來核能電廠會繼續蓋也更安全的年限使用。
那台灣是不是也要比照辦理？
叫你少用電，還扯到核能電要不要蓋？
難怪人類的貪婪用電，毀了世界。
不是少蓋，而是少用～ 懂吧！
這樣算是淘汰，妳哪裡知道他淘汰了核能？
消息不是那樣放的。
引用路透社報導如下：
請注意紅字，一個是暫時關閉舊的核能電廠（新聞指出Shut-down不是永久性，只是現在先進行三個月評估，可能預估日本危機後會在啟動電廠營運），另一個是要提供更安全的核能電廠規範（德國與法國一同商論）。
不要用政治口水，這不是民視或是其他電視節目。
德國與法國想要更堅固跟安全的規範，並且是建構在G20的系統框架下去規範。
這是基於經濟與能源的使用，一如京都條約。
引用網址：
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-germany-nuclear-idUSTRE72E61V20110315
(Reuters) - Germany will shut down all seven of its nuclear power plants that began operating before 1980 at least till June, the government said on Tuesday, leaving open whether they will ever start up again after Japan's crisis.
Chancellor Angela Merkel announced the closures, which will leave only 10 nuclear stations still generating, under a nuclear policy moratorium imposed as Japan faced a potential catastrophe at its earthquake-crippled Fukushima complex.
"Power plants that went into operation before the end of 1980 will ... be shut down for the period of the moratorium," Merkel told a news conference, adding that the decision would be carried out by government decree as no agreement with the plants' operators had been reached.
Environment Minister Norbert Roettgen said it was not clear if the reactors to be shut down in the three-month moratorium would remain closed or be reconnected to the grid afterwards.
Merkel astonished German politicians on Monday by suspending an unpopular coalition decision taken only last autumn, under which the life of Germany's 17 nuclear power plants would be extended by years.
She drew accusations on Tuesday of transparent trickery for the move, with the opposition and media saying she was trying to avoid a regional election disaster later this month.
PANIC AND PARTY POLITICS
The seven aging plants account for about a third of Germany's nuclear capacity. However, one of them has been offline since an accident in 2007, and another shut down last month for maintenance.
Business leaders urged caution when making major decisions on nuclear plants, which in total supply about a quarter of all electricity needed to power Europe's biggest economy. "Panic and party politics make bad advisers," said Hans Heinrich Driftmann, who heads the German Chamber of Industry and Trade.
The government said reliable power supplies were assured, but German electricity prices hit their highest level since October 2009 after Merkel's announcement. [nLDE72E1AA]
Merkel said consequences of the Japanese crisis had to be dealt with at an international level.
"Yesterday I agreed with the French President Nicolas Sarkozy that Germany and France ... would put forward an initiative to put safety of nuclear plants onto the international agenda within the framework of the G20," she said.
Last year the government had decided to keep the nuclear plants -- operated by E.ON, RWE, EnBW and Vattenfall -- running for about 12 years beyond their original shutdown date, despite protests even before the earthquake and tsunami hit Japan on Friday.
Shares of E.ON and RWE were down 5 percent and 5.2 percent, after falls of 5.3 and 4.
"TRANSPARENT TRICK"
德國也延展了核能廠的使用年限，台灣也做了。
但我還是希望少用電，才有機會多關閉一座核能電廠的機會。
不然永遠一直蓋，也不是好事。
台灣人，真的國際觀世界觀點與眾不同。
延展的必要是因為興建與廢除的耗損與安全係數尚高的必要運用，同時必須要繼續蓋才有廢除的取代廠房。
如果核四可以發電量高於兩座電廠，那未來台灣就可以少一座。
請減少用電，麻煩了。不省點電用，就不能減少電廠數量。
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12745899
Germany has temporarily shut down seven of its nuclear reactors while it reconsiders its nuclear strategy.
Chancellor Angela Merkel said that all reactors operational before 1980 would be taken offline, and safety checks carried out on the remaining plants.
The move comes after concerns about radiation leaks at a Japanese plant after last Friday's earthquake.
The EU has also reached agreement on "stress tests" of all European nuclear facilities.
"We want to look at the risk and safety issues in the light of events in Japan," the European energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger said.
'Out of service'
Chancellor Merkel also pointed to the safety concerns behind the German move.
"In light of the situation, we will carry out a safety check of all nuclear plants," she said.
"Those nuclear power plants which began operation before 1980 will be provisionally shut down for the duration of the moratorium. They will be out of service.
"Safety is the priority. Those are the criteria by which we acted today."
All safety questions would be answered by 15 June, she said.
Last year, Germany decided to extend the life of its 17 nuclear power plants by 12 years, but that decision was suspended for three months on Monday.
The government had faced growing pressure for the extension to be scrapped.
More than a quarter of all German electricity comes from nuclear power.
The Swiss government has also suspended decisions on its nuclear programme.
Concerns are growing about radiation leaks at a nuclear plant in Japan that has been hit by a third explosion in four days following last week's earthquake and resulting tsunami.
The blast occurred at reactor 2 at the Fukushima Daiichi plant - 250km (155 miles) north-east of Tokyo - which engineers had been trying to stabilise after two other reactors exploded.
JerryKS wrote:
不要看電視，看著演員...(恕刪)
請問您在講誰啊？還 懂嗎 勒 ....
A nuclear power phase-out is the discontinuation of usage of nuclear power for energy production. Often initiated because of concerns about nuclear power, phase-outs usually include shutting down nuclear power plants and looking towards other fuels or alternative energy.
Austria was the first country to begin a phase-out (in 1978) and has been followed by Sweden (1980), Italy (1987), Belgium (1999), and Germany (2000). Austria, and Spain have gone as far as to enact laws not to build new nuclear power stations. Several other European countries have debated phase-outs.
首先, 減少工業, 這些工業並不會消失, 而是搬到落後地區, 但還是要吃能源, 還是會造成世界能源緊張.
例如, 我們不要國光石化, 因為污染,高耗能, 危害環境; 但商討的解決辦法卻是將它搬到別的國家, 去污染, 危害別人的環境.
很多先進國家都是這麼幹, 我不要石化, 但我要享受石化產品! 台灣也走上這一步!
再來說轉型其它產業, 當然投入更多資源努力去做是可以達成, 台灣目前也有些成果了; 但這些產業的背後支援系統是什麼?
以美國而言, 電影業賺了大把鈔票, 但這些電影要運用更耗電的電子設備, 更耗電的聲光放映, 更耗能的拍攝場景!製作費一部比一部大!
小的前面說過:
買股票的都知道, 雖然公司去年業績好, 但股價卻一直跌, 因為市場分析認為公司今年展望不好, 無法成長.
而有的公司去年業績雖不好, 但股價卻一直漲, 因為市場分析認為公司今年展望良好, 成長可觀.
再延申一下:
如果您是公司業務, 去年業績份額是1000萬, 而您做到了1100萬, 超標10%!
今年初公司業務會議上, 總經理著實誇獎了您一番, 但訂今年業績份額時, 總經理對您的要求是什麼?
還是1000萬嗎? 還是上調到1200萬?
再比方, 您買基金或找理專理財, 每年穫利率至少5%, 不過份吧? 但您想過沒有,這5%要從那來!
追求成長是每個產業的目標, 不管是工業或文創業; 那麼成長意謂著什麼?
成長意謂著: 多產出, 多開採, 多消費, 多旅遊, 多活動, 多種植.....等; 也意謂著: 吃得好, 穿得好, 玩得好, 住得好, 行得好,作得好, 種得好...等; 這些都需要增加能源消耗!
人類的貪婪, 或說不滿足的本性, 才是世界能源問題的根本! 長期能源方案須滿足便宜, 穩定, 量大的需求,所以核能研發的進展程度關乎人類未來!
獅子吃飽了, 就不會再去追鹿!
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