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我的車庫視聽室(升級天空聲道與anthem AVM60前級)

介紹個網站有實際測試擴大機功率
幾年前找擴大機時,聽說日系中安橋推力夠
找資料發現了唯一這個網站有實驗室的測試數據
當時初階安橋609果然如網上所謂的推力相對足夠,但還是買了索尼2010便宜些但推力不會差太多,先鋒雅馬哈初階就不太行

後來今年打算上前後級,功放先找先鋒中階1522已用上D類後級,測試數據還可以
不過有機會還是上了安橋5008,想說消耗功率就上千瓦,總推力打七八折應該也近千瓦吧!
不過sound and vision 當初對5008的測試幾乎跟609差不多!?有人覺得是網站弄錯數據了

之後喇叭也換古力奇ultra II ,覺得有提升但再加上後級,才真正發揮ultra II 實力



http://www.soundandvision.com/content/denon-avr-4520ci-av-receiver-test-bench

Denon AVR-4520CI A/V Receiver Test Bench
Test Bench

Two channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 172.6 watts
1% distortion at 190.7 watts

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 121.8 watts
1% distortion at 145.3 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 108.8 watts
1% distortion at 121.7 watts

對比
Marantz SR7007 A/V Receiver HT Labs Measures
HT Labs Measures

Two channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 124.3 watts
1% distortion at 143.2 watts

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 89.5 watts
1% distortion at 111.4 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 70.5 watts
1% distortion at 83.8 watts

對比
Onkyo TX-NR3010 A/V Receiver HT Labs Measures
HT Labs Measures

Two channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 167.8 watts
1% distortion at 189.5 watts

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 122.1 watts
1% distortion at 142.2 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 114.1 watts
1% distortion at 127.2 watts


多聲道的環擴來說
安橋後級功率算是日系中最給力的
sound and vision 當初對5008的測試在五聲道跟七聲道幾乎跟609差不多!?
有人覺得是網站弄錯數據了

Onkyo TX-NR5008 A/V Receiver HT Labs Measures

HT Labs Measures

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 79.1 watts
1% distortion at 95.5 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 78.7 watts
1% distortion at 94.6 watts

5008的測試在兩聲道就正常許多 ,理論上多聲道不可能差到這樣


This graph shows that the TX-NR5008’s left channel, from CD input to speaker output with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 162.8 watts and 1 percent distortion at 194.1 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 248.1 watts and 1 percent distortion at 309.5 watts.


看看歐美的多聲道後級的數據
Lexicon LX-7 Seven-Channel Amplifier HT Labs Measures
HT Labs Measures: Lexicon LX-7 Seven-Channel Amplifier




This graph shows that the LX-7's left amplifier channel, with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1% distortion at 293.2 watts and 1% distortion at 322.5 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1% distortion at 245.3 watts and 1% distortion at 286.8 watts. An input level of 102.4 millivolts was required to produce an output of 2.83 volts into an 8-ohm load, indicating an overall gain of 28.83 decibels using the RCA input. When using the XLR input, a level of 205.0 mV was required to produce an output of 2.83 volts into an 8-ohm load, indicating an overall gain of 22.80 dB. With six channels driven into 8-ohm loads, the amp reaches 0.1% distortion at 199.5 watts and 1% distortion at 228.6 watts.


介紹一個國內近幾年很少聽到的品牌OUTLAW
看起來也是足瓦的後級,售價平易近人,官網就可以購買
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/amps.html


Outlaw Audio 7500 5-Channel Power Amplifier Measurements
Measurements



This graph shows that the 7500’s left channel, with two channels driving 8-ohm loads continuously at 1 kHz, reached 0.1% distortion at 284.9 watts and 1% distortion at 342.3 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reached 0.1% distortion at 447.6 watts and 1% distortion at 492.8 watts.


With five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads, the AVR reached 0.1% distortion at 260.1 watts and 1% distortion at 301.1 watts. The manufacturer’s stated distortion of 0.03% was reached at 238.7 watts, which is actually higher than the spec'd 200Wpc at that distortion level with all channels driven.
小弟對於樓主的工程非常佩服
可否請樓主多描述這顆重低音的聽感
小弟非常有興趣
謝謝

kilicala wrote:
小弟對於樓主的工程非...(恕刪)





第一次在視聽室實際試聽Rythmik F15

第一幕就是迪士尼的片頭-迪士尼城堡放煙火

快要有去年在東京迪士尼樂園的感覺了,但是多一些小空間飽滿,心裡就決定試聽完就買fv15hp了

接下來看蝙蝠俠 黑暗騎士再起, 終於等到像樣的重低音所以第一次拿出來看

也體會到各個頻段的低音從頭到尾, 果然特定頻段崁燈會共振

後來看星艦迷航記一二集, 超??飛行這一震, 有快從椅子跌下來的感覺

看唐璜中夜店的場景,有當年去迪斯可舞廳的PUNCH感

至於吹動褲管,或許是空間小還沒體會到


cnn wrote:
第一次在視聽室實際試...(恕刪)


重複測試DTS 2014遺落戰境的片段
Direct 聲音乾淨直接較結實,但是少點包圍感,我想我的9.2還是開Audyssey DSX 比較不浪費

據說AUDYSSEY XT32只削掉波峰,未拉起波谷
所以轟轟的駐波比較聽不見
實際上我的視聽室中低音也變得乾淨俐落許多

只是5008到底有沒有dualsb EQ 呢?
雖然是兩顆重低有個別校正音量到75db 才能開始跑audyssey multiEQ XT32
不過就目前查到的資料看起來是沒有dualsb EQ
初階玩家都覺得中置人聲不足
很大部分是音量開不夠大所以音壓不足,電影音量原本即是隨場景轉換高低起伏落差很大
家用音量通常不敢開大聲是怕大場面的音量吵到鄰居
若是單純調整中置來強調人聲,則失去大場面的震撼了
而好的後級則是在大功率輸出時仍然保持良好的失真率

所以家庭劇院首要條件還是要求隔音
最近一直聽到5008內部自己發出開機後跟切換音軌時的relay 作動聲
今天頻率更高了,到後來果然有影無聲
想說不會吧!5008才用三個多月耶!就遇到HDMI 板的問題??
只好關機,重新固定好原本用3M黏土加強的HDMI 線,聲音就回來了,也沒有relay 作動聲

考慮HDMI 線插久了會接觸不良,雖然是有黏土加強,但要是裡面針腳金屬疲勞,裝HDMI 固定架似乎是也沒有用
為了升級Atmos與auro3D應付十一聲道以上
第三臺QSC DCA1644入手



cnn wrote:
為了升級Atmos與...(恕刪)

看變型金鋼四,音量開64db,天花板就會共振,目前為止想到在前半段牆面加上窗簾幕布來加強吸音,應該有點兒幫助
最近因為原本的klipsch RB系列停產,所以原本就打算入手RB61一對來當後環繞與RB51兩對當前高聲道甚至天空聲道
國內詢價許久一直無法有足夠數量,又想到eBay去找二手的
物色許久發現前一代的RB15/25也蠻合適的,決標價約100~200美元
突然又看到二手KL525可以競標,但最終錯過決標時間,而最後標價是692元
跟去年問到的六萬元台幣差價頗多,就算加上一萬出頭的國際運費似乎還可以

又過了近一個月總算又出現三隻KL525,雖然其中一隻高音壞了,二話不說當然競標另外兩隻
最後一隻300元得標,終於可以補足ultra II七聲道了









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