skk413 wrote:
我上星期安裝了HD-...(恕刪)
Hi,
需確認電視在VGA輸入端有沒有支援1920X1080@60Hz，
在PC上安裝Monitor Asset Manager，
至：http://www.entechtaiwan.com/
下載，免費的，台灣製造的喔！
安裝好後，執行，看裏面的Native/preferred timing和Standard timings supported，
看裏面有沒有1920X1080@60Hz，
如果沒有，那就是說明書有問題，可能它是支援DVI/HDMI的1920X1080@60Hz，而不支援VGA。
如果有1920X1080@60Hz，那別客氣，就是電視收得不好，要請聯碩那邊處理，
如果你方便的話，測測別1920X1080@60Hz電視的VGA埠，
還是有一點點機會，是你的顯示卡有問題啊，
只是這個比較麻煩，你就看著辦吧。
你也可以用Monitor Asset Manager的另存新檔，把你的電視的VGA埠的能力存檔，
再寄給我看一下，就知道是誰的問題了。
我是........ 哆啦超人
DoraSuperman wrote:
給我看一下，就知道是誰的問題了
:
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 930 x 520 mm (41.9 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported
Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.656 - Ry 0.331
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.180 - Gy 0.681
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.152 - By 0.058
White point (default).... Wx 0.277 - Wy 0.285
Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 15-67kHz
Vertical scan range...... 49-61Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1360x768p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1360x768" 84.750 1360 1432 1568 1776 768 771 776 798 -hsync -vsync
Standard timings supported
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1360 x 765p at 60Hz - VESA STD
EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
DTV underscan............ Not supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 1
Detailed timing #1....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1440x480i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1440x480" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 480 488 494 524 interlace -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #5....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
CE video data (timings supported)
640 x 480p at 60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/96 kHz
CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 2.0
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ No
Front center............. No
Rear left/right.......... No
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... No
Rear LFE................. No
CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 0.2.0.0
Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz
Report information
Date generated........... 2010/1/22
Software revision........ 2.43.0.822
Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2
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幫我看一下,HDMI是1.X的.....
一生一定要擁有的3C!? 抱歉! 沒有這種東西!
white&blue wrote:
幫我看一下,HDMI...(恕刪)
這個軟體是能看你的顯示器(電視or螢幕)的能力，
可以看到，你的是42吋的
VIDEO能力很多啊，
我節錄你的附件，
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
就是1080p60Hz
Standard timings supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - VESA STD
就是1080p60Hz
EIA/CEA-861 Information
Detailed timing #1....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1440x480i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1440x480" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 480 488 494 524 interlace -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #5....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
就是480p(寬螢幕)、720p60Hz、NTSC、1080i60Hz、480p(寬螢幕)
CE video data (timings supported)
640 x 480p at 60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
就是480p、1080p60Hz、1080p50Hz、NTSC、PAL、1080p24Hz、720p60Hz、1080i50Hz、720p50Hz、
576p(寬螢幕)、480p(寬螢幕)、1080i60Hz、576p
其中1080p60Hz是電視說它比較喜歡的模式(Native/preferred)
一些比要奇怪的數字的，像是1360X768、1024X768，那是給電腦用的，
電腦要先看顯示器能不能支援，再輸出，否則畫面會有問題。
我是........ 哆啦超人
DoraSuperman wrote:
這個軟體是能看你的顯示器(電視or螢幕)的能力，
謝謝你,
再請你看一下這個.
:
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1600 x 900 mm (72.3 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported
Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298
Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 14-70kHz
Vertical scan range...... 48-62Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
DTV underscan............ Supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 0
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
CE video data (timings supported)
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
640 x 480p at 60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz
CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 2.0
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ No
Front center............. No
Rear left/right.......... No
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... No
Rear LFE................. No
CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 0.1.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
Report information
Date generated........... 2010/1/23
Software revision........ 2.43.0.822
Operating system......... 5.1.2600.2.Service Pack 3
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紅色的部份又代表什麼呢?
謝謝~
一生一定要擁有的3C!? 抱歉! 沒有這種東西!
white&blue wrote:
謝謝你,再請你看一下...(恕刪)
第一個
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
ACP: Audio Content Protection Packet
ISRC: International Standard Recording Code
就是有支援這種特別功能的叫做supports AI。
48/36/30是deep color，
HD Club抄來的：
Deep Color 消除了螢幕上的色帶，調轉換更平滑，色彩之間的漸變更細微。它能夠增加對比率，可以在黑色和白色之間展現更多倍的灰色陰影。
一般沒有deep color是24bpp(bit per pixel?)，
現在有deep color的，應該還不多，有也是只有到36/30，我還沒看過48的，
也有人寫成8bit 10bit 12bit 16bit，反正就是差3倍。就RGB，每個都nbit，總共就3nbit。
deep color又有分是不是有支援YCbCr444，你的就是有支援YCbCr444。
我們平常用的是single link，HDMI有規範一種dual-link，接腳就不一樣了，這樣應該流行不起來的。
可以傳更高頻的影像信號。
我是........ 哆啦超人
DoraSuperman wrote:
48/36/30是deep color，
HD Club抄來的：
Deep Color 消除了螢幕上的色帶，調轉換更平滑，色彩之間的漸變更細微。它能夠增加對比率，可以在黑色和白色之間展現更多倍的灰色陰影。
一般沒有deep color是24bpp(bit per pixel?)，
現在有deep color的，應該還不多，有也是只有到36/30，我還沒看過48的，
也有人寫成8bit 10bit 12bit 16bit，反正就是差3倍。就RGB，每個都nbit，總共就3nbit。
deep color又有分是不是有支援YCbCr444，你的就是有支援YCbCr444。
所以換句話說,
第一台顯示器是沒有支援Deep Color.
第二台有支援就是了.
hdmi有沒有支援10bit訊號輸入也是看這個嗎?
一生一定要擁有的3C!? 抱歉! 沒有這種東西!
white&blue wrote:
所以換句話說,第一台...(恕刪)
你前後相比，看CE vendor specific data (VSDB)這項，
就知道後面那台比較厲害，多了一些功能。
前：
CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 0.2.0.0
Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz
後：
CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 0.1.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
10bit就是這個意思。
但是，那只是說，你的電視有支援而已，也要播放器有支援，才有用。
例如，你的電視支援10bit/12bit，可是你的播放器只有支援8bit，
那你還是只能看到8bit。
相反地，如果你的電視只支援8bit，可是你的播放器有支援10bit/12bit，
那播放器就只能輸出8bit給電視，所以你還是只能看到8bit。
要搭配好，才有用啦。
我是........ 哆啦超人
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