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●日本藍光BD大戰一面倒10~11月 SONY陣營大勝Toshiba陣營

最好兩個都不要贏
這樣消費者才會贏
歐美也沒有說BD陣營贏
看不懂要發問不要亂翻譯
說的好像統計是你做的機器是你賣的
上面那文章說的是movie,
歐美市場現在bd的電影在大特價
還出現bd電影比dvd便宜,BD片子賣的沒比較多就是有鬼了
HD-DVD的片子完全沒打折


另外要引述別人的統計
麻煩引列原來的出處
不然你說了算就好啦?
發覺幸福於平淡生活中
大概那些根本還沒進入 HD 領域的人,才會在那邊路邊看戲、希望兩敗俱傷吧?

兩邊都不贏,最輸的是消費者。
不喜歡?就不要看啊!
ATB wrote:
最好兩個都不要贏這樣...(恕刪)


賣得比較多還不叫贏....那不知道要怎樣才叫做贏?
不喜歡?就不要看啊!
不太懂
錄影帶時代,VHS大敗beta,也沒看到消費者有輸在那裡
為什麼BD賣得多,就不行耶...?!
HD-DVD 我有XBOX 360的HD-DVD模組
BD 我有PS3

不過根據這篇
TOMSHARDWARE的新聞 11/27/2007
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35008/97/
扣掉PS3, BD的機器銷售是輸HD-DVD的

看過不少專家討論HD-DVD 跟BD 可能最後又變成DVD+R DVD-R的狀態
變成一台機器吃兩個.

消費者沒得利, 廠商也麻煩...

HD-DVD PLAYER在美國不少店家最近都有舊MODEL 99.99 新MODEL AFTER REBATE 129.99

相對的BD機器還是很貴 都是靠PS3來賣播放機-_- 說真的除了PS3 其他BD播放機還真的買不下手

HD-DVD我最喜歡的一點是沒有區域碼..不像我的PS3分三區..

HD-DVD 跟BLUE-RAY的比較到11/2007 SOURCE WIKIPEDIA~

The primary rival to Blu-ray Disc is HD DVD. As of November 2007, HD DVD has the advantage in maximum disc capacity (51 GB triple-layer versus 50 GB dual-layer), but no titles have yet been released on the triple-layer format.[100] It is unknown at this time whether the final specification will be compatible with current players.[101] As of November 2007 44% of Blu-ray titles use the 50 GB disc and 56% use the 25 GB disc[102] while almost all HD DVD movies are in the 30 GB dual layer format.[103]

In terms of audio/video compression, Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD are similar on the surface: both support MPEG-2, VC-1, and H.264 for video compression, and Dolby Digital, PCM, and DTS for audio compression. The first generation of Blu-ray Disc movies released used MPEG-2 (the standard currently used in DVDs, although encoded at a much higher video resolution and a much higher bit rate than those used on conventional DVDs), while initial HD DVDs releases used the VC-1 codec. Due to greater total disc capacity, the Blu-ray Disc producers may choose in the future to utilize a higher maximum video bit rate, as well as potentially higher average bit rates. As of November 2007, 41% of Blu-ray Discs are encoded in MPEG-2 while AVC is used on 33% discs and VC-1 at 26%.[102]

In terms of audio, there are some differences. To ensure backwards compatibility with older receivers with Dolby Digital decoders, Blu-ray Disc allows conventional Dolby Digital audiotracks at 640 kbit/s and this is the primary audio track for 33% of Blu-ray titles, while it has gone unused for HD DVD titles. The newer Dolby Digital Plus is mandatory for HD DVD players at 3 Mbit/s (which is used for 90% of HD DVD titles), while optional for BD players with support at a bitrate of 1.736 Mbit/s for mixes that require more than 5.1 channels (has only been used on two titles).[104] Both formats optionally support DTS-HD High Resolution Audio, a lossy compression scheme that extends the core DTS audio for better fidelity but yet is still not lossless.

As for lossless audio, 43% Blu-ray Discs have 5.1 LPCM uncompressed audio,[102] which is the only lossless format that is mandatory for Blu-ray players. Blu-ray Disc also has optional support for Dolby TrueHD lossless encoding of up to 8 channels of audio, and DTS-HD Master Audio, a lossless encoding of up to 8 channels of audio.[105] As of November 2007, 7% of Blu-ray Discs are encoded in Dolby TrueHD while DTS-HD Master Audio is used on 12% on discs.[102] In total, 60% of Blu-ray Discs have either uncompressed or lossless audio. HD DVD also supports LPCM, but unlike Blu-ray, it has mandatory support for Dolby TrueHD, although only 20% of HD DVD movies have lossless audio.[citation needed]

Both HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc support the 24p (traditional movie) frame rate, but technical implementations of this mode are different between the formats. Blu-ray Disc supports 24p with its native timing, while HD DVD uses 60i timing for 24p (encoded progressively, replacing missing fields with "repeat field flags"). Decoders can ignore the “flags” to output 24p.[106] There is no impact on picture resolution and minimal impact on storage space as a result of this, as the HD DVD format often uses the same encoded video—it simply adds notational overhead.

There is no Region Coding in the existing HD DVD specification, which means that titles from any country can be played in players in any other country. Compared to that a significant percentage of Blu-ray disks have Region Coding and will only play in players sold in the corresponding geographic region. Specifically many Blu-ray disks sold in the US will not play in Blu-ray players sold in Europe.

Since both formats launched in the spring of 2006, an estimated 4.98 million high-definition discs have been sold, including 3.01 million in Blu-ray and 1.97 million in HD DVD through the end of September.[107] However, those figures are dwarfed by the sales of regular DVDs. Combined, the two high-def disc formats accounted for only 2.5 % of overall disc sales during the first half of 2007.[108]





KaitoKid wrote:
大概那些根本還沒進入...(恕刪)


沒人規定下一世代的影音媒體一定要是BD or HD-DVD..
這兩個玩意不過是儲存工具罷了,要取代輕而易舉。
基本上現在很明顯的,消費者根本就不買帳,DVD仍然是壓倒性的優勢。
就算是有一方壓過另一方,不過就是五十步笑百步罷了。
未來的多媒體播放器應是什麼格式/編解碼都可以撥了
儲存媒體可以不用侷限於光碟機
直接用USB介面連結就好了
硬碟的容量更大更便宜

什麼BD/HD DVD都想跳過不理它
光碟片以現在眼光來說未免體積也太大了
還有讀寫頭老化、碟片刮傷的老問題
現在硬碟或是未來三年後價格下降的FLASH是更好的選擇
當然也就沒有燒錄問題了
ATB wrote:
...(恕刪)歐美市場現在bd的電影在大特價
還出現bd電影比dvd便宜,BD片子賣的沒比較多就是有鬼了
HD-DVD的片子完全沒打折

另外要引述別人的統計
麻煩引列原來的出處
不然你說了算就好啦?

每次討論到BD vs HD 常常有奇怪的理論出現
BD的軟體優勢不是感恩節之後才冒出來的
以下數據顯示今年到現在,雙方差距約為2:1,購物季節的第一周則逼近3:1

HIGH-DEF MARKET SHARE (11/25/07 - Nielsen/VideoScan):
Week End. 11/25 Blu-ray Disc: 72 HD-DVD: 28
Year to Date Blu-ray Disc: 65 HD-DVD: 35
Since Inception Blu-ray Disc: 62 HD-DVD: 38
資料來自http://www.thedigitalbits.com/ 以及http://www.homemediamagazine.com/的報導
實際調查單位是Nielsen/VideoScan

最後再附加兩點
1. 如果BD的銷售量來自於特價,HD電影也可以搞特價,看能不能力挽狂瀾? 反正$99機器都豁出去了
2. BD也有硬體廠商的支持優勢,請問除了T牌外,有哪家主要廠商押寶HD機器?
不管BD或HDDVD有沒有分區,只要是有台灣正體字幕,我就支持那邊...
(好像現在是BD比較多喔)
我的朋友並沒有帶給我多大的幫助,我的敵人也並沒有帶來多大的傷害,但是我都加倍奉還了他們。

ID4water wrote:
不太懂

錄影帶時...(恕刪)


當年錄影帶選到beta...後期就很難租到片了
還是得再買一台VHS...

這次規格沒完全分出勝負之前我應該還會繼續觀望...


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