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I own a 2017 GSF now but I just rented a 2018 M4 (Competition)

I would like to say it again...

Ohlins definitely makes better dampers. Damper design is more like ART stead of engineering.

That's why German and Japan build better cars because they use more their forces(persistence) than their brains... And, good engineering needs PERSISTENCE!!!

Again, no country can excel at everything...
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Today I just found how different the confidence level is between my previous G35S(KW V3) and my current GSF(Ohlins DFV)...

I usually set cruise control at 128 km/h on a very curvy highway... My previous G was capable to do it but I still felt a little nervous (I also found very few cars could do it even though it's a Porsche) but on my GSF I actually did not felt nervous but felt SLEEPY when I did it!!! (Maybe my Ohlins was also too COMFORTABLE!!!)

I think these high-end aftermarket suspensions may not increase the limit on your car but they do increase your CONFIDENCE a lot!!!
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In my opinion, Japan makes better cars than German and German makes better cars than any other countries.

If you can put a state of art suspension like Ohlins DFV, then your Japanese car or German car would become perfect!!! (In fact, dampers and springs could change your driving feel so DRAMATICALLY!!!)
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In my opinion...

GSF(stock)
Body Rigidness : 9
Suspension : 7

M4(stock competition)
Body Rigidness : 8
Suspension : 8

GSF (Ohlins DFV)
Body Rigidness : 9
Suspension : 10

M4(Ohlins DFV)
Body Rigidness : 8
Suspension : 10

So I change my previous statement. If both GSF and M4 are installed with Ohlins DFV, GSF could be better than M4...
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The below is from Yukihiko Yaguchi who is the Chief F cars designer at Lexus
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The GS F will offer a Lexus F brand performance experience with a focus on fun and an easy-to-drive experience while balancing its street and track character.” Again the emphasis is NOT on having the best specification sheet, but the best driving experience.

I don't care about the competitors. I want to create what I want, which is a really high-performance car offering driving pleasure to anybody, even regular drivers.

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/meet-man-brought-you-2015-lexus-rc-f-and-supra#sthash.aRHAcrEN.dpuf
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Again the emphasis is NOT on having the best specification sheet, but the best driving experience.

I check this comments again. Guess what... I think I finally understand what this means... This means the designer went at Italian route, not German route for these Japanese cars!!!

Italian route means pretty, happy, relax.
German route means precise, calm. (Japan route has same route as German's)

I think I'm really right on my GSF!!! It mixes with both Japan(precise, calm) and Italian(pretty, happy, relax). And, GSF is very good on daily drives and focus on daily drives(I don't track it, either)... So the numbers are not important any more (even though the numbers are not bad at all!!!)

It's really a performance car with plenty of pleasure!!!
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However, when I put Ohlins DFV on my GSF, I change my GSF back to German/Japanese route!!!

I think I'm more like a "German" guy but my wife is more like an "Italian" lady!!!
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wow is anybody even reading your post? 15 page of you talking to yourself. Kudos dude.....

btw, your English is a bit meh for someone living in the states.
I think F cars and LC500 are mix of Japanese(German) cars and Italian cars and focus on driving pleasure, not track performance...

GT-R are more like a track machine (more like German cars which mean cold, hardcore, no feel) F cars, LC500 are more like Italian cars which mean warm, romantic, easy...

Just like MX-5 vs 86... I think MX-5 has more Italian favor...

Actually I'm wrong with Ohlins DFV. I think my GSF with Ohlins DFV is still an Italian car... because Ohlins increases my driving pleasure... (Ohlins's smart valve design is like artwork...)

Not sure if Ohlins will also reduce track time. But, it doesn't matter to me because I don't track my GSF or street racing... (1 second quicker on tracks or streets is non-sense for me)
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So we should NOT compare these F cars and LC500 with German cars...

Complaining these F cars and LC500 are slow is just like complaining lions cannot fly or sharks cannot run!!! (because they are DIFFERENT!!!)

I LOVE MY GSF!!!

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I think Lexus makes better Italian cars than real Italian cars now!!!

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