bp232111 wrote:
《美國基本售價》
IS250自排款最少要31750美金
325I明明只要30900美金就有
在美國比「基本售價」會有一個大問題：
日系車通常把配備全都給你，或是只有一～二種選配 packages 讓你加（例如 DVD、GPS 之類）；但歐系車的基本售價多為陽春車，很多配備都要一樣一樣加錢上去。
Handling better DOESN"T means the car will run faster or corner faster. If you want to corner faster, just put on summer only performance tires and you can beat others.
However, if a car handle better, when you turn the steeling wheel, you know exactly how the car is going to react. especially when you make a turn at high speed, a tighter and heaver steeling wheel will help you "handle" the car.
Antus wrote:
Handling b...(恕刪)
If only the tire can decide how fast the cars pass the corner, why bother to hold such F1, NASCAR, or Indy? And why bother to design such FR, MR, RR, or AWD since FF is most economic?
Besides, with different drivetrans, the cars will use different driveline to pass a corner. How a FF car pass a corner will never be the same with the FR car. The angle you turn the wheel will not be them same when you drive different car. It’s all about the habit; once you used to drive a car, you know exactly how the car is going to react.
I used to drive two cars, my BMW M3 and gf’s 325, with the same series tire. I would say M3 with better handling. I can enter a corner with higher speed and still can turn to the APEX. But with 325, I need to hit break earlier to slower down because I will spin and go out of track if I use the same speed as M3 to enter the corner, no matter what angle I turn the wheel. This is the HANDLING of the car.
以 18" 的 prem sport (搭配懸吊不同) 來說, 高速過彎極限蠻高的, 車體剛性拉扯反應與彈跳 Q 度也很不錯
雜誌試車認為速度過高出彎後輪會略為躁進, 這點我反而感受不太出來
anyway, 所有車都有缺點, new IS 卻仍給人眼睛一亮的感覺
Scintilla wrote:
我一直很想請教歐系車主
「方向盤輕手」和「操控性」到底有什麼關係啊？
「路感迴饋」到底是什麼啊？
拜託不要說「你開開看就知道」，我真的開過。
這個問題, 我也是疑惑了很久. 最近終於有機會大略體驗一下.
話說家裡有兩台車分別是 GS300 與 523i.
523i 最近常開(因為才剛買), 只要一起步上路, 方向盤就會開始有細微的震動, 意即所謂的"路感". 我自己有一種感覺是好像可以感受到輪胎緊貼著地面走行, 不曉得這樣比喻對不對, 像騎腳踏車一樣從把手可以清楚感受到輪胎跟路面的摩擦力. 於是在高速行駛時自己覺得似乎開得很穩 - 因為輪胎跟路面的感覺讓自己覺得輪胎是壓著路面走過去, 而不是只是感覺車子在快速奔馳卻不曉得到底輪子跟路面是否有緊貼.
至於GS300, 方向盤完全沒有那種輪胎跟路面摩擦的感覺, 除非遇到坑洞, 不然方向盤只會感受到引擎的細微震動(很小). 當我在同樣的路上高速行駛時(新生高架開到120
, GS與523), 覺得方向盤沒有什麼阻力 -> 得自己牢牢定住不然好像一個起伏就會造成手姿勢改變因而打歪方向盤. 所以開得時候要特別專注 => 特別是新生高架接縫起伏很大開越快越像坐跳跳車.GS的方向盤也感覺比較輕, 我只能說有差但差多少實在很難量化.
當然輪胎或許有差異, GS是裝225/45/R17 Dunlop 型號沒記下, 523是裝225/55/R16 倍耐力 P7. 只是我覺得即使523裝的是Dunlop(因為有抖動問題原廠後來換成P7), 也沒像GS那樣幾乎沒有路感.
唉, 我覺得我表達的還是不是很好, 不過我自己的領略是: 方向盤是否傳來輪胎在地面上走行的感覺上的差異, 給我在高速駕駛車子時的信心程度有差別.
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