Consumer Report年度報告出爐 - Subaru ranks No.2 (第5頁)

sphenoid
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2009-03-25 10:02

kmj3943 wrote:
1﹑其報告職員專業和道德水平不高
2﹑造假出來給大家看爽罷了
3﹑有給了錢就有好話可以說
4﹑廠商高度合作就給予好評

Consumer Reports buys, anonymously, all the cars it tests, about 80 per year, and drives each for thousands of miles.
車子是他們匿名去買來測試的，並不是車商贊助
有自己的試車中心、跑道，長期受僱的專業人員

對研究的流程、數據的解讀不懂的話，更不要隨便丟下一句全盤否定

不知道或不懂的東西，就問。

Who needs a lifestyle-statement SUV?

sphenoid

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2009-03-25 10:15

人會飛出車外
應該是沒有繫安全帶。
所有的撞擊測試，都是在有綁安全帶下的結果。

Who needs a lifestyle-statement SUV?

stevenspchou

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2009-03-25 10:16

kmj3943 wrote:
連 VOLVO XC...(恕刪)

親戚的S70 turbo開十年了
塑料內裝組件因使用大量環保材料如電動窗按鍵已經崩解粉末掉
引擎室內管線與零件也有環保品換了不少成了可觀的開銷
前提是沒車庫再太陽很多的台中路旁擺十年
所以單就Used Car Verdicts差是可信的
是不是因使用環保材影響Reliability也有可能

th21711072

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2009-03-25 10:24

eqt2010 wrote:
這2句話有邏輯可言?...(恕刪)

Agreed. just because volvo have image of making safe cars, doesn't mean they can't screw up once in a while. Plus it is only one problem from a single model within entire model line of cars.
Single black spot is hardly a sabotage. especially if you look at some american brands.

sorry if picture is not scanned perfectly.

from your logic, does consumer report hates all american automakers?

bilabong

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2009-03-28 10:52

eqt2010 wrote:
又是你，來點會的好不...(恕刪)

lmfao
driving a mitsu and criticizing the subarus

francisliao

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2009-03-28 16:46

為何Subaru在J.D.Power沒有很好的分數呢？

sphenoid

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2009-03-29 7:55

要得到 Consumer Reports 的推薦要符合
1. 路試不可低分(consumer reports買下車子後測試人員測試後給分)
2. 可靠度調查結果(平均以上分數)
3. 撞擊測試分數良好

而 JD Power 的報告主要分三大類 Initial Quality, Perfromance, Dependability
Initial Quality
車主在擁有新車 90天內，回答問卷，將答案轉換成分數後，車輛得到的評價。所以是車主擁有車子三個月裡的"感覺"
主要問的是車輛各部分的品質好不好，設計上好不好用，有沒有壞掉東西

Performance
車主在擁有新車 90天內，回答問卷，將答案轉換成分數後，車輛得到的評價。所以是車主擁有車子三個月裡的"感覺"
主要問的是對於車輛性能部分滿不滿意

Dependability
2006年買新車的車主，連續三年擁有後，回答問卷，統計回報的問題數。
主要問的問題是各種可能發生過的問題或故障。

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表面上結論的差距，不小部分大概跟評估方法、研究本身問的問題不同有關係

裡面給你什麼資訊，要自己去判斷。不要腦袋空空只看幾句結論，自己推論到錯誤的地方去

Who needs a lifestyle-statement SUV?

iamblue3

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2009-03-29 10:48

low brand recognition doesn't mean the car itself has very low reliability.
similar analogy, expensive luxury brands are not equivalent to high reliability and safety.

Volvo has been renowned for making remarkably safe cars, but the over all build-quality
has been critically criticized in every media.

I personally think subaru makes wonderful and reliable cars, but "in the big picture" it isn't a very popular car. People tend to purchase "other" cars which have bigger reputation instead of a subaru. A well equipped subbie can cost more than 30k, and most people add another 5000 dollars to buy an entry-level cars from luxury brands.

Similarly, I bought an evo x and I could definitely add a few more grands to afford a 135 or even 335, but I didn't. The over all quality of a mitsu isn't great, but it's bearable. Obviously I was aware of the "broken pedal" incident, and that became one of my major concerns before my purchase. But In the end I still bought it for its tremendous fun and satisfaction it has brought to me.

Consumer Report is a great source to help buyers to understand the "real-deal" of different items, not only cars but also other things. It provides very reliable and CREDIBLE feedbacks from real customers, and it is the main reason why it is so popular.

大大C

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2010-02-20 20:44

在美國，載小孩學才藝(或上下學)一般都是媽媽的任務，因此，MINIVAN 就專門負責這樣的工作 (可順便載鄰居的小孩一起去)，一般男人比較愛開SUV、PICKUP 或 SPORTSCAR...

不過美國的才藝不像台灣這麼多元，足球、空手道等是較普遍的，所以足球媽媽指的就是這些負責接送小小孩的家庭主婦