如何選擇鏈條油?最正確的鏈條油知識!! (第10頁)

hoomdtgk
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2008-11-17 10:23

jonny2008 wrote:
你說「心理層面」是我...(恕刪)

我蠻推薦這篇文章所寫的
http://www.nordicgroup.us/chain/

尤其是這一段
It's easy to go into business selling chain lubricants. Just buy some small bottles and fill them from five gallon bottles of industrial lubricants. Create a fancy name, and convince bicycle shops to stock your product

james543

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2008-11-17 10:31

hoomdtgk wrote:
我蠻推薦這篇文章所寫...(恕刪)

沒用過的人當然都會說
隨便拿個油來賣都當黃金一樣貴

沒有用過的人
那要不要乾脆就拿沙拉油來用
不是一樣都是油!!

hoomdtgk

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2008-11-17 10:46

james543 wrote:
沒有用過的人
那要不要乾脆就拿沙拉油來用
不是一樣都是油!!...(恕刪)

如果沙拉油可以拿來當潤滑油的話
我還甘願自己炸豬油來用

剩的還可以拿來豬油拌飯..........

james543

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2008-11-17 11:21

hoomdtgk wrote:
如果沙拉油可以拿來當...(恕刪)

可以啊
有個環島的人就用沙拉油暫時頂替

wildeny

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2008-11-17 11:23

hoomdtgk wrote:
我蠻推薦這篇文章所寫的
http://www.nordicgroup.us/chain/

我讀了覺得不錯
我也不大相信一些用在自行車上高價的油品

你引的那句話正好也是化妝保養品的寫照

ITO YIN

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2008-11-17 15:10

hoomdtgk wrote:
我蠻推薦這篇文章所寫...(恕刪)

仔細讀了這篇文章,發現這一篇所提出的潤滑知識跟just0727板大在一樓所言相同阿!
乾性及臘性都不適合用在鏈條上.
底下就有提到臘性根本不是潤滑劑,而且流動性滲透性極差(除非加熱它),
只會讓鏈條磨損愈來愈嚴重,其實油品知識並非多難的觀念,
想當然爾,臘在常溫下不就是屬於固態嗎?如何能滲透到鏈條的邊板與roller呢!
選擇酯類鏈條油才是王道啦!!

How NOT to Lubricate a Chain

1. Do not use multi-weight engine oil such as 10W30. Plain 30W oil may be used if chainsaw oil is not available.
2. Do not use paraffin wax. Wax is not a lubricant. Some people like wax because a waxed chain does not attract dirt, and does not leave marks on legs and clothing. This is true, but the problem with paraffin wax is that it simply doesn't work as a chain lubricant. There are some products that mix wax with lubricants to achieve most of the benefits of waxing without all the drawbacks. As with all waxing, it must be applied by hot-dipping to be effective. I don't know of anyone that's tried this product on bicycle chains, but if the literature is to be believed, it may work.

What the Experts say About Chain Waxing:

"When wax was popular, we'd get customers coming in all the time complaining about shifting problems on their bikes. Removed the wax and lubed with conventional stuff and voila, shifting back to normal." Mike Jacoubowsky, co-owner of Chain Reaction Bicycles.

"Wax is not mobile and cannot return to a location from which it has been removed by rotation of one part on another." Jobst Brandt, author of The Bicycle Wheel

"If you use dry lube or wax, follow product directions and use it often. In some cases, dry lube should be used for every ride. It wears off very quickly and no new lube can flow to the critical wear areas." Craig Metalcraft, manufacturer of Super Link III.

"Downsides of the wax approach include the fact that it is a great deal of trouble, and that wax is probably not as good a lubricant as oil or grease." Sheldon Brown

Note: If you insist on waxing, be sure to do it properly and safely. Buy a small roaster (about $30) to heat the wax. You must submerge the chain until the metal of the chain reaches the same temperature of the wax. Do not attempt to wax your chain using any method other than dipping. Setting your house on fire is not a good plan. Wax your chain often, preferably after every ride.

wildeny

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2008-11-17 15:31

ITO YIN wrote:
乾性及臘性都不適合用在鏈條上.

沒有完全不推乾性的
是說像 DuPont™ Multi-Use Lubricant with Teflon® fluoropolymer的是OK的又不貴
(看起來像是恐龍193)

不推的是
1. Do not use multi-weight engine oil such as 10W30 (汽車用的)
2. Do not use paraffin wax

james543

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2008-11-18 7:31

ITO YIN wrote:
仔細讀了這篇文章,發...(恕刪)

不要亂解釋好嗎
各有各的優缺點用不同的環境
而且文章也沒說 "不要用"

你貼的文章是說用 "熱蠟"
還要準備小火爐
真的有閒功夫的人才這樣用吧
那要不要點個蠟燭滴比較快一點呢

還有你當那些在研發乾式鏈條油的廠商都是笨蛋嗎??
(乾式鏈條油 = 熱蠟 ;會不會太好笑啦)

以福士的乾式鏈條油來說
裡面還有其他配方例如鐵芙龍............
再搭配一些溶劑才能滲透到鏈條的軸心去
有那麼簡單的話
德國的福士公司不就可以收一收
(文章內也推薦二硫化鉬..鐵氟龍®含氟聚合物... 這類的東西)

黃蓮巴豆

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2008-11-18 8:54

jonny2008 wrote:
版友說得沒錯，有多少人會去管機車鏈條的潤滑或除鏽？我騎了數十年機車，從來不理會鏈條，也從來沒有斷鏈過。下雨天、風砂天，也從沒有事後經清潔過，一樣騎得嚇嚇叫。那種時速更快的機械，鏈條應該會更危險、更受到我們重視才對。

我看差別就在自行車鏈條看得見，機車鏈條我們看不見而已。(恕刪)

普通的機車應該都是皮帶不是嗎??有用鏈條的都是檔車吧??!!

jonny2008

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2008-11-18 9:09

喔，我不知道現在要換檔的「機車」已經改叫「檔車」了，抱歉抱歉，我應該算是老一輩的吧。

不過，重點是我認為一般的騎乘不需要用到非常高貴的油品，除非是比賽用的自行車才要吧。