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平路提升巡航速度,該提高迴轉 還是該踩更重齒比?

sundaypig2003 wrote:
可以給個理由讓我知道...(恕刪)
加重了齒比,沒了迴轉速,
有了迴轉速,踩不動齒比。
反覆來去,速度還是在那邊徘徊,瓶頸?
之前看書(一生的自行車計畫)有提到重量訓練,也不是很懂!
網路言論,參考參考就好。
其實我暗戀你整整兩個年頭 wrote:
加重了齒比,沒了迴轉...(恕刪)


若任何路況都以迴轉速來帶過 , 說實在根本不會進步 , 好比說 例如在平路 ,

從一開始的(假設)34T配19在踩 , 迴轉保持100RPM , 且可以在平常的路況都以這速度在巡航 ,

代表著腿力已經適應這個齒比 , 可以在往34T配17~15T , 打掉從新來過 , 迴轉速勢必會掉下來 ,

但是若在再適應這個齒比且在把迴轉拉到100以上 , 在維持住巡航的里程 , 代表著又進步了...

可以在以此類推往13T練習 (當然不建議齒比小對小囉) , 或者熱身完後掛大盤50T配19T(假設)

開始更艱難的訓練...


atenzadream wrote:
請教各位 本人平時平...(恕刪)

偷吃步---換好的BB(陶瓷培林)更有效率。

拉轉

拉不上去就是還太弱欠練習

降轉只是增加膝蓋跟大腿的負荷容易爆掉GG

atenzadream wrote:
請教各位 本人平時平...(恕刪)
deoman43 wrote:
拉轉拉不上去就是還太...(恕刪)


會爆掉就是練不夠啦! 再練.............
加強重量訓練吧~
高迴轉以及重齒比都需要交叉訓練的
其實我暗戀你整整兩個年頭 wrote:
加重了齒比,沒了迴轉...(恕刪)


參考看看,試著把我1.5年前看到的文章翻一下...出處在最下面

對於新手與俱樂部等級的選手來說, 健身房專門腿部肌肉的 Strength Training,對於選手的表現進步效果是不大的,他的建議是倒不如把時間拿來騎車,增加有氧能力與其車技巧進步會比較快,這樣時間的投資報酬率是相對來的高的。

以俱樂部及的選手來說,實驗把他們分做兩組,對照組依平常方式訓練,實驗組則對於腿部做激勵與肌耐力的重量訓練,一個星期3次,為期10周。10周過後對兩組選手進行VO2(最大攝氧值)、乳酸值進行測試,驗結果是,完全沒有進步。


作者針對不同程度的車手做實驗,大意是說對於專業車手幫助較為顯著。

但作者也提到,如果對於下背肌與腹肌進行重量訓練,則可強化核心肌群,以在長距離的騎程、爬坡時中減輕軀幹部的痠痛,其建議可一周施行兩次每次15分鐘,組數隨能力逐漸增加。

而對於精英級選手呢? 傳統的重量訓練,是可以提高其最大攝氧量(VO2),無氧力,在40km的個人計時騎程成績也會有所提升,但對於PV值(有氧power值)則無幫助,這些測試是在四周、每週兩次的重量訓練而得的結果,但重量訓練也是有其缺點,其會造成體重與風阻的增加。

參考了。


Strength training for cycling – does it really help?Strength training is standard practice in sport; most athletes and their coaches know that improved strength, power or muscular endurance is likely to lead to improved performance in competition. However, recent evidence suggests that, except for those at the very top of their sport, the same may not always be true for cyclists. James Marshall explains
Top cyclists such as the Tour de France competitors have a full sports science programme helping them, including nutrition, physiology and psychology. However, apart from training on the bike, the average clubman or woman will probably limit him or herself to a bit of resistance training down at the gym, especially in the off-season. This article aims to answer the following two questions: Is strength training relevant for the beginner cyclist? How does strength training affect performance in elite sprint cycling and road racing?

Strength training for the novice cyclistThe ability to produce a greater amount of force, to delay fatigue and to control the bicycle are all beneficial when looking to improve cycling performance, and strength training can help all three of these components.

Working with weights for the lower body – eg two days per week of four sets of 5 Repetition-Max (5RM) squats – will help improve leg strength as tested in the squat. Repeated lifting of weights, with less recovery time – eg a circuit of squats, lunges, step- ups all at 15-20RM with 10 seconds of rest – will improve local muscular endurance. The use of weights and stability exercises in the upper body and torso will improve body strength and stability in these areas. But can this help the beginner cyclist improve their cycling performance? Strength training inevitably leads to increased strength, but that is only relevant if it helps improve cycling!

A study carried out in 1995 compared the effects of a) single-joint strength training b) multiple-joint strength training and c) a sprint cycling programme in beginner sprint cyclists (1). The sprint cycling performance was measured by how much power they could produce in five seconds on a cycle ergometer.

All three groups followed their individual programmes for eight weeks, followed by a specific six-week programme of sprint cycling. The two strength-training groups improved their 10RM by 41-44%, with no significant difference between the two forms of training. However, all three groups improved their sprint performance by 4-7%, with no significant difference between the three groups.

It appears, therefore, that for newcomers to a sporting activity, doing that activity may be enough stimulation to initiate a change and improve performance. In the study above, it may be that after only eight weeks of strength training the improvements in the 10RM test were mainly skill based, and the cyclists did not actually get stronger, but just better at doing the strength exercises. It would be interesting to see if after a further eight weeks of strength training whether they got stronger in the 10RM test, and then see if that improved their sprint cycling.

Strength training for club cyclists
Strength training for club cyclists
If beginner cyclists are able to improve their cycling through practice alone, how about club cyclists who are quite proficient at cycling but may need to be better conditioned? A recent study looked at introducing either a strength-based weights programme, or a muscular-endurance weights programme on club cyclists, three times a week for 10 weeks (2). Testing was based on 1RM on four leg exercises, and lactate and VO2 levels during a progressive cycle ergometer test.

Compared to a control group who did no strength training, the two strength-trained groups again showed improved 1RM scores on the strength tests. But neither group showed any improvement over the control group on the lactate and VO2 levels during the cycle ergometer test. This led the authors to conclude that strength training did not improve the cycling performance of club level cyclists.

However, the cycling test of both of these studies was conducted on an indoor ergometer, in a fixed position. Cycling, especially downhill or mountain biking (DOMB) requires great stability in the upper body. That, and remaining in a position bent over the handlebars for long periods of time in endurance cycling mean that pressure is placed on the lower back.

Whilst strength training has not been conclusively proven to improve cycling performance, certain exercises may be beneficial in allowing the new and intermediate cyclist to spend more time in the saddle, without incurring postural and overuse injuries in the upper body and lower back. Postural exercises performed twice a week for 15 minutes can help establish a base level of strength in the upper body and torso, helping the cyclist adapt to the added demands of their sport.

Go through the five exercises in order; start with one set and then progress to two sets with 30 seconds rest between exercises, and two minutes rest between sets. If you have any previous lower back pain consult your doctor or physiotherapist before commencing this routine.

Advanced level cyclistsIf beginner and club level cyclists are best able to improve their cycling performance by simply doing more cycling, what about those at higher performance levels? Elite cyclists would probably find it hard to increase their volume of training and, indeed, excessive volumes of training are linked to overtraining in endurance athletes (3). Are they better off looking at improving and making their current training regime of cycling more efficient, or can weight training offer real advantages?

One potential disadvantage of weight training may be the increase in muscle mass that results. An increase in size could hinder the cyclist by increasing the air resistance they face as they cycle at speed; the greater the speed, the greater the drag of wind resistance. Even where drafting is allowed, a larger ‘frontal’ cross-sectional area will make efficient drafting harder.

The other resistance faced by the cyclist is that of gravity; a greater mass means that there is gravitational force to overcome when there is any kind of incline. While this is not an issue for a track cyclist on a perfectly level track, it becomes a major factor for road cyclists, especially where the terrain is hilly. Any strength-training routine must therefore result in an improvement in leg power or leg cadence greater than the increase in gravitational or air resistance produced as a result of increased size or mass. To date, no research has been published that analyses this cost/benefit ratio in elite cyclists.

For endurance cyclists, increasing the legs’ ability to resist fatigue is important. Whilst the majority of work may rely on aerobic metabolism to provide the energy for the race, about 13% of the energy required comes from anaerobic metabolism (4). This energy source may be called upon at crucial times, such as the sprint to the finish line, or racing up a hill. The legs themselves may be working maximally, producing lactic acid, but because the rest of the body is working sub-maximally, it can redistribute this lactic acid to the liver, heart and upper body muscles, where it can subsequently be metabolised.

If the legs can become more proficient at dealing with an increase in lactic acid, by removing it quickly from the system, then more work can be done at a higher intensity, allowing the cyclist to sprint for longer. This is the theory behind circuit-type training of the legs, but as yet, there are no studies in elite cyclists that specifically assess this type of training.

However, these peripheral adaptations have been shown to take place after High Intensity Training (HIT) in well-trained cyclists (average peak VO2 = 64.5ml/kg/min) after only four weeks of training at two sessions per week (5). Cyclists were split into three different training groups and a control group.

All three training groups showed an improvement in their 40km time trial, anaerobic capacity, peak VO2 and ventilatory thresholds, but not their total plasma volume (PV). The fact that the PV did not change but the performance measures all improved, indicates that the changes were in the legs, not in the central system. The fact also that three different high-intensity training routines all led to improvements shows that it was introducing the intensity that led to improvements in performance. Moreover, it may be that sequencing the different routines every four weeks would lead to further positive changes.

Explosive leg training
A recent study in New Zealand looked at combining HIT with explosive leg exercises, in an attempt at using specific power exercises to improve mechanical efficiency and anaerobic power (6). This study took place within the cyclists’ competitive season, with the exercise protocols replacing 20% of their normal existing road training.

The cyclists were tested for 1km and 4km power as well as peak power and oxygen cost. After five weeks of training (12 sessions lasting 30 minutes each), all the power indicators had increased, and the oxygen cost of cycling had decreased. Remember that these improvements occurred in the competitive season, when the cyclists were already well trained and supposed to be in peak form.

Not all the improvements can be due to an increase in central aerobic power; indeed, the 1km trial is mainly anaerobic in nature so an alternative explanation must be found. It is likely that the explosive leg exercises stimulated the neural system by rapidly activating the motor units within the muscles. This may have led to a quicker rate of peak force development when cycling, resulting in greater acceleration and sprint performance.

Summary
Strength training may improve cycling performance through increased leg power, a greater ability to cope with local fatigue and improved upper body stability. However, this has yet to be proved in research. In beginners and club level cyclists, more cycling is probably the best way to improve performance. Taking time out from cycling to do strength training will probably lead to a decline in cycling efficiency and skill level. The exceptions are abdominal and lower back exercises that can help prevent lower back pain.

Once skill and aerobic fitness levels have improved through normal cycling training, performance can be improved through introducing high intensity training even during the competitive season. This is a very specific way of inducing load onto the legs that forces local adaptations to take place. Just doing ever-larger volumes of cycling may well lead to overtraining.

For elite level cyclists, introducing explosive strength and body weight exercises is likely to improve sprint and short hill climbing performance. Traditional strength exercises, however, may be detrimental in that they increase muscle mass and size, adding to the air and gravitational resistances that cyclists need to overcome.

The important thing to remember is that new stimuli force the body to adapt and improvements in performance are made. New training methods should not be used in addition to existing training. Instead, try to keep one or two sessions a week aside for variety. These may include strength training, HIT or core work.

James Marshall MSc, CSCS, ACSM/HFI, runs Excelsior, a sports training company

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jordanaj23/

atenzadream wrote:
請教各位 本人平時平...(恕刪)


我還以為小惡魔這邊是會叫人換高框板輪

既然轉速維持在90~100,想在加速
當然是換重齒比來踩

若低於90就拉迴轉速

alfista wrote:
偷吃步---換好的BB(陶瓷培林)...(恕刪)

公路車平路巡航平均迴轉大概95 時速30,換什麼BB都沒用吧,板輪也幫不上忙
多練吧.....

TRASHNET wrote:
我還以為小惡魔這邊是...(恕刪)

換+ 1

atenzadream wrote:
請教各位 本人平時平...(恕刪)


如果你要求的是效率&持久
因該要訓練肌耐力吧
所以我覺得換重一點的齒繼續維持90RPM
讓心跳維持在 (220 - 年齡) * 60%~ 70%的範圍內
如以下分析的選手33歲=每分鐘心跳112下
就這樣一天一天慢慢練
練到你的身體會更有效運用血液裡的氧氣
自然而然就有辦法用最大檔騎90RPM

TEAM SKY 在 TDF 第15站的分析
他們的平均轉速=81
看了一下路線圖,是平地路段
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/races/team-sky-races/2011-tour-de-france/stage-15.aspx
Avg Cadence = 81 rpm

重力訓練主要是針對瞬間的爆發力
重力訓練=肌肉變大=風阻更大
提高轉速=左右搖擺增加=效率會降低?

60%的體力都被風阻給擋掉了
不然去換TT用的車+穿貼身=降低風阻
自然就會快一點

以下送上 腳踏車最速男
Sam Whittingham 133Km/h Flat surface, unpaced
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQwpGLCAMm4
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