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賓士W212


Jimmy Jusder wrote:
看過好幾位賓士車主...(恕刪)

賣掉不就得了~~!!!
又不是什麼人生不可逆的事!!!
在mobile 01,說些無關痛癢的話就行了, 咱不能不留個心眼,以免禍從口出....
Jimmy Jusder wrote:
這事件仍然未了, 我身邊一些本來對賓士有興趣的朋友, 現在都不考慮了, 他們說現在選擇很多, 何必非賓士不可, 故障不可怕, 可怕的是處理態度...


不是幫車廠護航

我覺得這樣的因素,很難在短時間內查清楚
涉及的層面很大,故障可能來自各方面
說不定整車線路,需重新拆裝(如同其他大大說的電系問題)

只有原廠才有時間、費用、人力,來追這個問題的源頭
區域代理商與分公司,真的做不到(資源不夠)

可惜台灣沒有檸檬車的法規
如果有的話,對車主是保障,
對車商來說也便於明快處理
(當然,處理後,車商會不會針對這台車,努力找出root cause(RCA),就不可知)

說了不怕大家笑
我也知道這問題發生的機率,不可能為零(任何人都可能會碰上)

所以買車以後,
我還真的努力念佛經,
希望交車時,給我一台正常的車子

因為真的沒時間與金錢,幫車廠做QA、QT


感恩 河馬曬太陽 大大分享類似經驗

Collision Prevention Assist Plus Inoperative Error [防撞輔助系統未運作]
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=303&t=5348650&p=15#68320343
台灣檸檬車法

台灣是個法治國家,也是個輿論自由的社會,在一定的規範內,每個人都有相同的權利說想說的話,做想做的事。

只要有人的地方,就會有爭執,所以建立起一個公開、公正、專業、客觀且透明的仲裁單位,就非常重要。

爭執來自於雙方對事情處理結果的期待有落差,落差若不大,雙方各退一步,取個中間值,圓滿解決。

萬一落差太大,那執法單位就扮演相當重要的地位,但是走到這一關往往都是搞到雙方失和,而不得不採取的合法爭理的最終手段。
我要說的是,「法律條文」也是跟著時代轉變、人類生活方式演進,往更合乎多數人期待的標準去修正。

事情有爭執,到最後終要有個判決的結果,但如果類似的爭執不斷發生,以及社會弱勢得不到合理的保護時(即便是合法的判決結果),也是一樣不符合社會期待(公義),雖然合法解決了,但不代表爭議也跟著消失。

那這該如何呢?我認為由大多數人向政府提出陳情,透過應有程序到立法院制定更合乎時勢與道理的新法,並重視社會弱勢的保護,重新界定更明確權利義務關係,這才能降低不必要的社會糾紛。

台灣需要是更和諧的社會,昨天的保時捷衝撞事件,絕對是雙方期待落差很大,而且找不到對話窗口,所以演變成如此激烈的手段,我也是類似事件的受害者,我可以體會車主內心的憤恨與掙扎,但不是每個人都有這實力去做同樣的事,那公正的法律才是我們最終的依靠。
說了半天,重點是台灣消費者仍是弱勢,畢竟當個人面對企業體系時,大多沒有時間、精神跟預算,來為自己的委屈申冤,在汽車買賣與品質保障方面尤其多,如果涉及人身安全的問題層級都被漠視,那台灣沒有資格說自己是已開發國家。

支持台灣制定檸檬車法,如果車子在售出120天,行駛12,000公里以內,同一問題經過四次維修仍無法解決,就必須解除契約,原價購回。

但我個人認為,如果問題明顯涉及人身安全疑慮,如行進間熄火、斷油、煞車失靈或爆衝,頂多給兩次機會,而且限定車商出面協商時間,及延長到兩年起碼50,000公里保障,避免策略性惡意拖延時間。

生命是無價的,不分貧富貴賤,這樣車商才會更嚴謹做好品質的管控,讓消費者放心使用,這樣才是建立社會更和諧的雙贏方法。

再囉嗦一次,台灣檸檬車法一定要受重視,每個人都會有機會購車,什麼廠牌都一樣,別存僥倖心理,遇到一次就把你折磨到吐血。

祝福台灣所有車商與車主....
相關新聞:

民眾要求推動檸檬車法案,經濟部正式回應處理方式!
2017/10/18
http://auto.ltn.com.tw/news/8669/43

可解約換車!經濟部正式回應檸檬車法 「爛新車」Bye
https://speed.ettoday.net/news/1034712
+1
但台灣人是健忘的
消費者也不太團結
這棟樓,過陣子就沉了
車商又是不痛不癢
繼續賣翻
Jimmy Jusder wrote:
再囉嗦一次,台灣檸檬車法一定要受重視,每個人都會有機會購車,什麼廠牌都一樣,別存僥倖心理,遇到一次就把你折磨到吐血。
車子漂亮的外觀固然吸引人, 但車子的品質、維修技術、售後服務、車廠面對重大安全問題瑕疵車的處理態度, 大家都必須列入考量.
畢竟台灣尚無對消費者買到原廠瑕疵車的保護法令, 車主們面對車商一貫的拖延戰術, 無不身心俱疲, 每個人都有可能遇到, 一旦遇上了, 通常都是手無寸鐵, 面對車商擁有豐富訴訟經驗, 以及資源豐富的背景, 吃虧的消費者很難獲得公道, 所以還是跟大家強調, 台灣真正需要一部檸檬車法來保護所有無辜的消費者.

賓士也會這樣搞,車主真無助.

真忍無可忍,就在車身前後左右,貼上貼紙,擺放在車廠門口當廣告.
[微笑賣了吧 還能幹嘛]
Mike Ya wrote:
帮高调!后勤能力不足...(恕刪)
蘋果日報還沒有刊出來嗎 ?
等著看蘋果日報首版 ..
人生最重要的一件事, 就是把握機會..
河馬公佈欄:

澳洲有一位哥叫做Teg,6W澳幣買了輛grand jeep Cherokee(大切諾基),因為啓動不良返廠維修了15次,最嚴重的一次剛修完就再次熄火不能動。

Jeep客服無法解決不能退也不給換,搞的這位哥十分火,這位哥沒拉白布條也沒有在經銷商門口砸,只是寫了一首歌還拍了個MV,於是讓Jeep公司一下子悔不當初。

Youtube上歌名叫做
I Made A Mistake I Bought A Lemon Jeep song by Teggy – Jeep Grand Cherokee, what a lemon!

中文翻譯:我犯了個愚蠢的錯誤 我竟然買了台檸檬車Jeep~

原文章出處: 小七車觀點




也希望台灣的[檸檬車法]可以快點通過~領著中央銀行印鈔機印出來的鈔票的政治人物民代們~



我把車當作是生活的一部分
Mercedes Benz - 我的生活哲學,我用GLA寫日誌
祝大家平安喜樂~
GLA crossover,是一台讓你想開出去玩的車子!!


I Made A Mistake I Bought A Lemon Jeep song by Teggy – Jeep Grand Cherokee, what a lemon!

This is a true story about my experience of dealing with the most international corporation.
I'm going to sing my heart out for you now, man
They won't bring me down, I work so hard to make my money.
But then they sold me a lemon, man.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. I-I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Yeah.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Don't you make a mistake and buy a jeep, yeah?
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. I,I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Yeah.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Don't you make a mistake and buy a jeep, yeah?
I have a master plan. I spent 60 grand on a Grand Cherokee to transport the family.
I thought a new car would be safe with a baby on the way and it just wasn't the case.
After 15 faults, 3 times it was towed, can’t risk being in this car no more
So I take you back to the dealership for the mend
They fix it, we drive out, breaks down again.
I must have bought a type of citrus variety.
I called FCA (Fiat Chrysler Australia) cause I'm done.
Hell no, son, no replacement, no refund.
But why? It's been five times in a year.
Because it’s not considered a major fault, dear
So it was true, and I thought it was just a rumor. Chrysler makes its money out of bullying the consumer.
(They won't bring me down)
I've worked so hard to make my money. But then they sold you a lemon, man.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. I-I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Yeah.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Don't you make a mistake and buy a jeep, yeah?
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. I-I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Yeah.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Don't you make a mistake and buy a jeep, yeah?
You know what they say if you pee on the tree, the lemons grow nice and big and juicy.
Then they relabel it the Grand Cherokee. There’s some fucked up ethics in the company
I don't care if they want to come after me.
I'm standing tall with Australian right behind me.
I’m fighting for the whole lemon community, so they can shove their extended warranty.
I ain't making it up. I'm making lemon tang. I'm making lemonade.
They didn't sell me a car, sold me a lemon, man.
And if I'm going out, I'm going out with a bang.
Do you really have to buy a jeep? There are so many other alternatives.
So what do we do now, nobody can tell or like Ashton Wood. I’ll send you straight to hell
They won't bring me down. I worked so hard to make my money.
But then they sold me a lemon, man.
It’s the road conditions, sir. That made it pull to the left. Whole speed, humps and all of the rest.
So there's nothing we can really do about it.
But in your TV ad, it's driving up a fucking mountain
So it's important for y'all to know my sentiment, I'm just angry, I'm not complacent about no refund and no replacement. This thing is dangerous, that's no understatement.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. I-I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Yeah.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Don't you make a mistake and buy a jeep, yeah?
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. I-I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Yeah.
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Don't you make a mistake and buy a jeep, yeah?
I made a mistake I bought a jeep. Yeah.
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