http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=296&t=2712800&p=2#35526987 ================================================================================== Starting with the Phenoms, AMD's digital sensor no longer reports an absolute temperature value anymore, but a reading with a certain offset, which is unknown. It is estimated that this offset is between 10 - 15c.
The last bold is the important one. As much as the AMDers keep insisting that there CPU runs super cool... even below ambient that's really not the case because the temperate reading they are getting isn't the "real" temperature. Because AMD doesn't provide the TjMax value for there processors you can not get the proper offset for the temperature reading hence you can not get the "real" temperature.
================================================================================== Okay the issue with the FX chips seems to be the only really accurate numbers are those from the BIOS. AOD and other programs all gave me much lower numbers often as much as 10C below ambient room temp at idle. Even AMD has told me that the BIOS numbers are closest to accurate. With that bein g the case I have seen my 8150 hit 70C at higher overclockers as well under stress and run fine. ==================================================================================