水餃哥 wrote:
我想到一個做法~實體...(恕刪)
如 On-Line Game 的經營模式? 遊戲安裝片49NTD ?
要玩? 拿錢來繳月費~
那就不應該直接賣玩家完整的遊戲內容，而是要用DLC的方式讓玩家下載才合理
不然我買來發現遊戲不合我胃口而只玩了1/10但又不能轉賣，這損失反而要玩家自行吸收又是那招?
譬如說一片遊戲賣台幣1250，而這片遊戲有10個章節，那就應該是用一個章節拆開來賣125才合理
這樣才比較符合使用者比例付費原則吧? 以前Capcom是有在DC上這樣玩過啦，可惜最後....
廠商自己也知道這樣付費模式對自己不利，看現在廠商只是把DLC當成扒皮的工具就知道一二
反正硬逼玩家要一口氣買斷完整的內容也是行之有年，消費者也無法反抗
現在更是虎視眈眈著二手市場的利益，但誰也說不準到底最後會如何定案
不過說這麼多也沒用，反正想合法的玩GAME，也就只能照著廠商的規則走
umts wrote:
如果到處充斥二手遊戲,那問題出在誰身上,真的好意思收費嗎?
既然如此消費者又為何要買帳.
說的太好了, 真正的好遊戲我從來不會玩破關後就拿去賣了, 如古墓奇兵, 祕境探險, EA出的戰爭系列等, 會一直等到這些廠商出續集才會考慮拿去賣, 但是續集出了, 會買二手前集的畢竟是少數 所以真正好的遊戲公司根本不用怕二手市場會侵蝕他們的營收, 反倒是一些爛的遊戲廠商出的遊戲不耐玩, 劇情短, 一下就玩完了, 或根本不好玩, 才上市兩個星期就有大量二手片流入市場, 自己不檢討, 反倒去怪消費者?
唱片載體是光碟片 他在裡面也附了內容
書本載體是紙張 他在裡面也附了內容
油畫載體是布料 他在上面也附了內容
我們買的都是"內容"使用權而沒有所有權
所以我們沒有權力對內容加以修改出售
是以我們不能自行將"內容"放置大量"載體"出售
但對我們買的"載體"我們有使用權及所有權
所以我們有權力對"載體"修改及出售
但不能對"內容"修改出售
是以我們可以把油畫那去販賣 而不侵犯智產權
我們可以把書本拿去回收 也不侵犯智產權
我們可以把唱片拿去賣 是以也不侵犯智產權
我們也可以把光碟拿去賣 當然也不侵犯智產權
而之後我們販賣這些"載體"
對於購買我們商品的人我們並沒有權限制其如何使用
他要把光碟拿去當飛盤或者讀取裡面內容
他要把書本拿去燒掉亦或再利用亦或觀看其內容
他要把油畫布料掛在牆上欣賞或者拿去當抹布
這些都是合理且合法的
你並不能限制其要如何使用"載體"
就像你買了車買了房你就有完整的使用權和所有權
你可以修改販賣
而二手交易我們也只賣"載體"
當然裡面的內容所有權依然不是我們
但他依舊還是"正版"
BMW二手賣掉依舊還是BMW
他不會突然變成三菱變成福特
他依舊是"正版"BMW出產的車子
所以要麻你就直接販賣內容
大家都從網路下載
當然就沒話說
因為網路下載的是"內容"
我們只有使用權而沒有所有權和出售
但你既然要出光碟(載體)物品
你當然就不能限制我要如何使用
我要拿去一台主機玩兩台主機玩
拿去燒拿去當飛盤都是我的自由
當然你就沒有權力從我販賣"載體"在抽一次錢
並限制我對其的使用方式
用戶名稱是我 wrote:
遊戲載體是光碟片 ...(恕刪)
加5分Xbox One preowned plan revealed?
Retail sources claim Microsoft and publishers will take a percentage of every used game; rumored preowned activation fee could be £35 52美元.
According to retail sources speaking with MCV, retailers will be able to charge whatever they want for secondhand Xbox One games, but Microsoft and publishers will receive a cut of every transaction
The information leak comes after Microsoft reportedly briefed "key" partners on its plans for the secondhand market as it relates to the Xbox One, something Microsoft has been coy about.
The system will reportedly work as such: consumers can trade in physical Xbox One game discs only at retailers that have agreed to Microsoft's terms and conditions and have integrated the company's cloud-enabled Azure preowned technology into their own.
The traded-in title is then registered on Microsoft's systems as having been resold, and the data files will be cleared from their Xbox One account. Such a system would explain Microsoft's position that the Xbox One must "check in" with its servers once every 24 hours.
Retailers are then able to resell the used game at whatever price point they see fit. As part of this initiative, the publisher of the game will automatically receive a cut of the sale, along with Microsoft. The rest is revenue for the retailer.
It is unclear what this percentage will be, though Consoledeals.co.uk claims the portion paid to retailers will be 10 percent, well below the margins retailers have come to expect from secondhand games. This could negatively impact retailers like GameStop, which rely on the secondhand market for a healthy portion of their overall business.
During an earnings call yesterday, GameStop management brushed aside questions regarding the Xbox One and used games, instead saying it will allow Microsoft to announce plans in due time.
The site also suggests, based on information from a senior employee at "one of the UK's largest video game retailers," that the rumored Xbox One preowned activation fee will be £35 ($52). It is unclear if this fee will be an additional cost on top of the sticker price for secondhand games.
Microsoft's official stance on the Xbox One used-game scenario is that the platform has been designed "to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail."
"We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we've confirmed today," Microsoft said earlier this week. "While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, today we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail."
"Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios."
Sony has also dodged questions regarding used games on the PlayStation 4. The company has confirmed that preowned titles will play on the next-generation system, but said decisions about activation fees will be left up to individual publishers.
"It's a publisher decision," Sony said in February. "We are not talking about it. Sorry."
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