yentzuhao wrote:
EXCUSE ME北...(恕刪)
是阿...四年保養不用錢
and??...我指出保養貴...是說他任何東西都很貴..."小保養可以到500"
kyotousa wrote:
是阿...四年保養不...(恕刪)
i don't know what u mean by "small maintainance" cost USD$500.
BMW 4 year maintainance free is a BIG advantage comparing to other model. Lexus is actually quite expensive to maintain comparing to other european cars because Lexus require more frequent visit to the dealer.
for BMW
the first oil change at 15000 miles. ($80-100) free
windsheld wiper change annually, ($45) free
Inspection 1 at 30,000 miles ($250-300) free
Break pad and roter change (yes, BMW change roters too) at around 30,000 miles ($600) free
break fluid flush every 2 years ($120-140) free
Coolent flush 4 years from built date ($120-150) free
4 wheel alignment at inspection 2 ($200-250) free
oil change at 45000 miles ($80-100) free
you can calculate the total cost of ownenship for other models (audi or lexus) or you will have better idea how much it will cost you over 4 years. if you add all those up together, you actually save a lot of money in maintainance!!
I think $1200 to $1500 over TRUE invoice is reasonable. after all, those sales people have family and children, too. the reason i said TRUE invoice because some dealers will add MACO fees or Advertising fee to the invoice. So $1200 over invoice is out of door price including ALL fees. You only need to pay tax on top of that.
accord1994 wrote:
買車難道只是買性能O...(恕刪)
所以現在不講性能又回來討論二手價跟保養就是了
還要說擁有Audi 一輩子不賣阿 (二手價不好就開一輩子?這什麼話?)....那Saab. Cadillac, Saturn, etc 怎辦
你這麼實際怎麼會買 328?.....投向日本車的懷抱吧...
保養...前面人算差1500...Audi 可能又比較好殺
對打 A4 2.0 or A4 quattro 吧...A3 可能更便宜
樓主自己算就好了...BMW 零件保養也沒多便宜不用一直提...如果四年算出來比較便宜你還要叫他不要買嗎?
你如果買車不是買爽的...而這兩個真的是你買328 的原因...
真的是應該買G35 的...
說真的你要一直扯來扯去扯沒完...我一開始回就只是因為這句話 "我覺得沒必要買AUDI的車吧..AUDI雖是德國車..但畢竟和雙B有差距..你看北美的銷售量和他代理商的多寡你就知道了"你要以你個人對Audi 的偏見出來說話也沒問題...祇不過有人會回話而已...還懷疑我對北美市場了解...lol 買車就買車還要買跟別人一樣的車喔
Antus wrote:
i don't kn...(恕刪)
lets just say there's nothing special about BMW's maintainance schedule
it's just they use synthetic so they claim you can change oil at 15,000miles (I'd suggest you do it at 7500-10k) also there's nothing special about dealer oil change (they do inspect your car while at it....but you could do it yourself lol)...if you want to pay 80-100 for oil change that's fine.....i mean my dad do it...i don't.
and Lexus's rotor and pad will not fail at 30k....I guess BMW use more of performance pad (hell most car don't anyway...and you could just resurface the rotor it's like 20 dollars)...so I am not sure why you think Lexus would be more expensive than BMW...
anyway...as for the 500 comment...my dad's friend went in for 30k maintainance
came out with 5XX bill......as for Acura or Lexus is 3XX...
it was at yr 2000...for a 5 series donno what model..
kyotousa wrote:
lets just ...(恕刪)
i agree that the free maintainance is not a big deal for some car fans, however, for average consumer, i think it is a great way to save money. (after all, most of the extra maintainance cost won't benefit resale value)
BMW just start the fully free service couple years ago. (I think in 2004 or 2005) I was just surprised that they really cover EVERYTHING! even wiper blade!! I think USA is the only country that BMW offer this kinda service. (I know Canada doesn't)
Yes, you can reserfice the roter for $20, however, why would you want to do that when BMW will replace a brand new one for free? BTW, bmw use a very soft roter and pad to give a better break feel. (also a lot of break dust) after you see how deep the pad "eat" into the rotor, you may want to just replace it.
I think in the US market, BMW 3 series is a very good choice. You can get heavy discount on a new model. The resale is one of the best. You don't pay any maintainance fee. Some people choose European delivery which get even more saving plus a factory tour in Germany. I just can't imagine a better choice. ( But this only apply to US market and for 3 series only.)
If you are in Canada, it is a totally different story. BMW is selling at a premium over it's competitors.
as for oil change. If you add all the parts (7 bottle oil ($6 x 7 = 42), oil filter ($7) , air filter ($10), windshild additive ($6) you are paying $65 for the parts even if you do it yourself. a dealer charge $85, which I think is pretty reasonable. I am willing to pay $20 in labor to let them do it while i can sit in waiting area for coffee and cookie. ( but within the first 4 year, it's free!, even better)
I think many people still prefer to do regular maintainance themselves. I did it on my car sometimes. The main idea is not to save money, it is more of the passion for the car.
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