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BMW760Li,強大的馬力,如果前方有車靜止狀態..可以頂的開嗎??


viper2736 wrote:
熄火狀態 AIR B...(恕刪)


1.做撞擊測試的車是有接電的.
2.最好是熄火air bag會開啦,你要不要找台停在路邊BMW撞看看氣囊會不會開.
760Li 有沒有像 Volvo 的防追撞系統?如果有,在柵欄放下來的時候,真的會開不動!

車上的電子設備越多,開車上路就覺得越恐怖!
flybluepig wrote:
Auto-Hold是類似靜止煞車輔助,讓你的腳可以暫歇不用踩住,和定速沒有關係吧?
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Auto-Hold和ACC with Stop & Go確實無關, 這部分可以直接跳到3.2.

flybluepig wrote:
在我解釋這套系統的功用是這樣吧,怎麼你講起來就變的超神奇的?
還能讓車輛無法啟動、油門失效、自動熄火
在我看來,定速就只是定速,並不會讓你的煞車油門系統都失效


有錯請指正

PS:一般而言,定速系統在駕駛人主動介入(如催油門、踩煞車)後即停止作動,故這些推論在第2點時便不成立了,當然也有人會認為是全民公敵的機器人附身,不予置評。

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其實我列的Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go的中英文官網連結, 如果英文還行的話, 有興趣的人可以先看過這項功能的說明, 這套系統和我們一般用的陽春的定速巡航是不同的, 簡單來說就是具有防追撞的功能. 下面就官網抓下的資料供大家參考.

PS: 這個不幸事件並不一定就是這個功能造成, 在此存粹是單存功能討論.

Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go function.
Relaxed driving even in heavy traffic: Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go function ensures that your BMW remains a predefined distance away from the car ahead, reducing the speed to zero if necessary. When the traffic begins to move again, the system accelerates your BMW - up to your preferred cruising speed if possible.

Active Cruise Control (ACC) with Stop & Go function is primarily intended to serve as a driver assistant on freeways and highways. Three radar sensors with a range of up to 150 metres permanently monitor the road ahead. As you approach a slower vehicle in your lane, the system directs the engine control unit to reduce power output and if necessary apply the brakes to ensure you remain a predefined distance away. If the vehicle ahead stops, ACC with Stop & Go will bring your BMW to a complete standstill too.(前車停止, ACC with Stop & Go會讓車子完全停止)
When the vehicle ahead moves off again or changes lanes, ACC with Stop & Go increases engine power; if possible, your BMW accelerates to your preferred cruising speed. If the total standstill is longer than three seconds, ACC with Stop & Go requires you to briefly apply the accelerator or press the ACC button to bring your BMW into motion again.(如果停止超過3秒, 你需要踩油門或是按ACC鍵車子才能動) If the standstill is briefer than three seconds, acceleration is automatic. Up to four different cruising speeds can be predefined and activated by the press of a button. Minimum cruising speed is 30 km/h; maximum is 180 km/h.
The distance to the vehicle ahead is measured in seconds rather than metres. This ensures that you have adequate reaction time in relation to the speed you are travelling at. ACC with Stop & Go makes driving both more relaxing and safer.
It adjusts your speed if needed on bends, using data from DSC and the navigation system to calculate a safe speed. On multi-lane roads, the system is able to differentiate between vehicles in your lane and in neighbouring lanes. ACC with Stop & Go function can be deactivated at any time by applying the accelerator or brake, giving you complete control over your speed.
It is important to remember that Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go function is not an autopilot. If the vehicle ahead brakes heavily and suddenly, or if the system recognises a critical situation, it alerts the driver with acoustic and optical warnings. Nonetheless, ACC with Stop & Go makes driving in heavy traffic or moving through congestion significantly less tiring.
如果242樓說的是真的

那顯然車子並沒有熄火

因為氣球都炸開了

人是誰害死的,那就很明顯了

是否有可能是這種情況:
1.bmw隔音太優~行駛至平交道中
2.柵欄開始放下~自動煞車感應到障礙物=>所以煞車停止(如目擊者說停在平交道上)
3.突然煞車慌張後加油門沒反應=>以為熄火(駕駛說法)
4.如想重新起動慌亂下程序過程不熟練~反而再次按下star/stop按鈕==>結果反而真正的熄火(此時已過數十秒了吧)
5.最後姑姑說棄車逃離==>當然來不及再救出阿嬤囉
所以是否有可能是這樣過度的高科技產品下沒顧及到的錯誤而造成的悲劇
值得車廠造車者該探討以及駕駛者該深思(必竟當下情況十之八九都是容易慌亂)的問題點吧
jonathan18999 wrote:
其實我列的Activ...(恕刪)


你想太多了

jonathan18999 wrote:
If the vehicle ahead stops, ACC with Stop & Go will bring your BMW to a complete standstill too.(前車停止,會讓車子完全停止)


ACC with Stop & Go 的功能就是包含跟車低速短停功能的定距定速系統
就算短停,你的定速跟車功能仍在,不用一直在那邊按定速鈕,更不用塞車低速時一直油門煞車油門煞車的踩

這個從英文字面就可以很容易理解,你的英文程度應該還行吧?

任何定速系統都不會奪取你的油門主控權

jonathan18999 wrote:
ACC with Stop & Go requires you to briefly apply the accelerator or press the ACC button to bring your BMW into motion again.(如果停止超過3秒, 你需要踩油門或是按ACC鍵車子才能動)


如果停止超過3秒,你需要踩油門讓車子動,或按ACC鍵重新進入定速跟車模式


任何系統都不會奪取你的主控權,就算是主動煞停系統也僅限在單次煞車功能的作動,停止後就失效

不然有這套系統你怎麼路邊停車啊?
反應太慢超過3秒,還得再按方向盤的ACC按鈕
不然油門煞車都失效了,一台760不過想路邊停車一下,結果就這樣廢了,天啊

無稽之談.....




建議多加強車輛基礎知識還有文字理解能力
不要亂發那種危言聳聽的文章

flybluepig wrote:
你想太多了ACC w...(恕刪)

我只是照字面BMW官網的意思去解讀, 如有誤解歡迎指教. 其他的我就不回應了, 免得這棟樓蓋歪了.
小弟愚昧~若下放柵欄沒移開~偵測障礙物的系統不是一直感應到前方的障礙物~那主動煞車還是否還是會一直介入呢(難怪一堆人都認為怎麼不加足油門衝過柵欄,ps:是否先手動關掉這系統功能~只是不熟悉車性能的新手情況下加上緊張根本不曉得如何處置)?所以慌亂下想踩油門駛離車子根本動不了~所以是否就是如此才以為車子熄火~爾後再想重新啟動反而再按下star/stop鈕後變成真的熄火~這樣一連串所需的反應時間能有多少~何況是剛回國開著不熟悉車子的年輕人亂了方寸...
monocyte007 wrote:
小弟愚昧~若下放柵欄...(恕刪)

其實兄臺所言就是我在227樓提到的其中一種情境, 所以我才會花時間找出BMW官網對Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go功能說明, 看看是否有任何可能造成這個問題.

只是這種高檔貨大概也沒幾個人有, 我也只是看官網亂猜, 一些反對的人則是連官網都沒看(或是看不懂?)就以自己的想法再猜. 只能看看哪位有這個配備的大大可以幫忙實驗一下幫大家解惑, 當然不用真正跑到平交道上試...
剛剛去逛一下v廠的city safety防碰撞系統果然在中控台上有切關的按鈕~所以當要路邊停車時得先關掉這系統吧我想?(只是不知bmw是否擁有相同系統)~所以若慌張下加上不熟悉車性能下根本不知切換開關在那裡~因此就有可能一直加油確開不動吧~而以為熄火....
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