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Toyota C-HR 內裝照 + 後車廂 公開

個人一點淺見:

1.2t這種要快不快的東西...

還不如油電車的附加價值(低速低噪音,無震動,無廢氣)還比較高


跨界小休旅 引擎室小的要死

換大渦輪或者加bar值不換大水箱嗎? 確定放得下?

1.2t打到滿bar是能多快? 1.2t高速拼尾速是要笑死人嗎?

小休旅跟人跑山路拼操控?? 我怎麼也覺得有點好笑...


不負責任推測一下...1.2t 都會市區油耗估計12~13km/h最多了

但這麼保守開 買渦輪車幹嘛?
e-tron wrote:
個人一點淺見:1.2t...(恕刪)


被你這樣一說

下面先推出1.2t的這些歐洲車廠肯定都傻了

以後看到這些車都先笑一笑好了

PSA 208/2008 1.2t PureTech Active > 110hp

skoda Fabia/yeti 1.2 TSI > 110hp

Golf 180 TSI > 110hp

百鬼夜行抄 wrote:
被你這樣一說下面先...(恕刪)


我開過yeti 1.2

鰻夠力的

可是DSG~~
有消息指出 1.2 大概在77 以進口方式銷售
dinnerxp wrote:
看來車格定位會在ra...(恕刪)



hachi123 wrote:
有消息指出 1.2...(恕刪)


來源?
hachi123 wrote:
有消息指出 1.2 ...(恕刪)
這樣的話買定了
2008不存在感好重 完全沒有人拿來比 預計等改款入手小獅王
tom_kaku33 wrote:
應該是要拿2008來...(恕刪)





陳萍麗 wrote:
來源?


e-tron wrote:
個人一點淺見:
1.2t這種要快不快的東西...
還不如油電車的附加價值(低速低噪音,無震動,無廢氣)還比較高
跨界小休旅 引擎室小的要死
換大渦輪或者加bar值不換大水箱嗎? 確定放得下?
1.2t打到滿bar是能多快? 1.2t高速拼尾速是要笑死人嗎?
小休旅跟人跑山路拼操控?? 我怎麼也覺得有點好笑...
不負責任推測一下...1.2t 都會市區油耗估計12~13km/h最多了
但這麼保守開 買渦輪車幹嘛?


不用在那邊個人淺見....看過這顆引擎的技術資料再來說嘴好嗎?
誰說渦輪車就一定很暴力?這顆引擎完全是節能取向開起來根本不像渦輪車
優點是省油省稅金,低bar數增壓符合大眾一般用車習慣

技術資料原文:http://papers.sae.org/2015-01-1268/
此資料是要花錢下載的,花點錢多讀資料吧,這些都是工程人員的心血

其中還提到搭配CVT變速箱能抵銷渦輪遲滯的特性(參考圖29)


Toyota Motor Corporation is developing a series of engines
belonging to its ESTEC (Economy with Superior Thermal Efficient
Combustion) development concept. This paper describes the
development of 8NR-FTS after the subsequent launch of the 2.0-liter
DI Turbocharged 8AR-FTS. 8NR-FTS is a 1.2-liter inline 4-cylinder
spark ignition downsized turbocharged direct injection (DI) gasoline
engine. By following the same basic concepts as 8AR-FTS engine
[1], the 8NR-FTS incorporates various fuel efficient technologies
such as a cylinder head with an integrated exhaust manifold, the
Atkinson cycle using the center-spooled variable valve timing with
mid-position lock system (VVT-iW), and intensified in-cylinder
turbulence to achieve high-speed combustion. Instead of the D-4ST
(Direct injection 4-stroke gasoline engine Superior version with
Turbo) system that incorporates port and direct injection, this engine
adopts the D-4T (Direct injection 4-stroke gasoline engine with
Turbo) system that performs only DI in each cylinder. In combination
with a single-scroll turbocharger, high torque is achieved from low
engine speeds by cooperative control with the VVT system. This
engine also adopts a stop and start control strategy that achieves
speedy and shock-free re-start performance by starting the engine
with stratified injection in the first compressed cylinder. The engine
can be mated with either a 6-speed manual transmission (6MT) or
continuously variable transmission (CVT). Especially with CVT,
turbocharger lag duration is reduced by shifting control, and both funto-drive
dynamic performance and excellent fuel economy are
capable by switching two driving mode; “normal” or “sport”.



e-tron wrote:
個人一點淺見:1.2t...(恕刪)


又不是每個人買渦輪車就是要撇車、飆山路~
極速再高~台灣的限速就是120~了不起你超車踩到130.140~離極速還很遠哩~至於再上去~請去賽車場~別在一般道路上害人
至於操控性~操控性再好能跟跑車比嗎?小SUV也還是SUV阿~車身還是高的阿~請不要真的當作跑車跑好嗎?過彎請放慢~要甩尾~請去賽車場甩~別在一般道路上害人
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