NHTSA也說了Toyota將會在他們所宣佈的車輛補救措施裡面，另外安裝一組煞車優先控制裝置，車型涵蓋了有Camry, Avalon and Lexus ES 350, IS 350 and IS 250 models等，提供額外的安全信心，這套系統將會在煞車與油門同時動作的時候，將車輛停止下來，NHTSA也特別滿意Toyota提供這項額外的改善措施。
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看來Leuxs也中槍了，國瑞不會又回答說，那個車子跟台灣的產地不同吧？最好是Lexus其中一個很大的宣傳，不就是統統MIJ?
http://www.freep.com/article/20100202/BUSINESS01/100202049/1318/Official-U.S.-had-to-force-Toyota-into-safety-recall
WASHINGTON -- U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said today that it had taken "an enormous effort" to get Toyota to recall vehicles in the United States, and said federal regulators were not done with their investigations.
Since questions were first raised about possible safety defects, we have been pushing Toyota to take measures to protect consumers," LaHood said in a statement. "While Toyota is taking responsible action now, it unfortunately took an enormous effort to get to this point."
"We're not finished with Toyota and are continuing to review possible defects and monitor the implementation of the recalls."
LaHood told the Associated Press in an interview that Toyota was "a little safety deaf." He said last week that the automaker would not have recalled its vehicles had federal safety officials not pushed for it.
Toyota's top U.S. official, Yoshibi Inaba, is set to testify at a congressional hearing Feb. 10. Toyota also faces another hearing from the investigation subcommittee headed by U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Menominee, on Feb. 25.
Toyota has suggested that its recalls of 2.3 million vehicles for accelerator pedals that could stick, along with the shutdown of six factory lines and the sales halt of eight models, was done with an abundance of caution following a few reports in October. But the automaker also told federal officials it had first received complaints about the pedals as early as March 2007, and changed their design twice before the recall.
In addition, the automaker had to be pushed by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration into its original recall of floor mats that could trap accelerator pedals against the floor. That recall has now expanded to 5.4 million vehicles nationwide, and NHTSA has said it has confirmed the problem is linked to five deaths in two accidents.
Safety advocates claim Toyota's defects are linked to at least 19 deaths.
LaHood said federal safety officials flew to Japan in December "to remind Toyota management about its legal obligations." NHTSA officials were upset that Toyota did not stop selling vehicles immediately when it announced the pedal recall Jan. 21; the automaker has said it was hoping to find a fix for the problem before having to issue a stop-sale order.
從業代轉貼的文章
NHTSA last year tested throttle electronics in response to a petition from a 2007 Lexus ES 350 owner who had experienced sudden acceleration of his vehicle. The agency denied the petition in October after subjecting the same model of car to “multiple electrical signals” and “magnetic fields.“‘Exhaustive Testing’
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基本上來說
NHTSA 在 2009 年就對 2007 款式 ES350 電子油門做過電磁干擾測試
發現根本沒問題所以沒有批准消費者對豐田的 Petition
也就是說
到目前為止
沒有任何一樣證據顯示電子油門有問題
Santee Lexus ES350 四死的報告在 1/28/10 出爐
正式判為踏墊卡死油門踏版
駕駛沒有把車放到空擋
http://autos.aol.com/article/toyota-tragedy-saylor-family
Southlake County- 四死報告在 1/27/10 出爐
主因為車主速度控制不當
無法證明油門踏版有問題
業代亂說話的文章可以停停了
krispykreme wrote:
我覺得業代還真的斷章...(恕刪)
這真的是個悲劇
因為租車公司沒注意就造成這樣的慘劇
撇開腳踏墊不談
Toyota/lexus本身程式安全設計上也有問題
再油門全開的情況下踩煞車會造成煞車故障並且malfuntion 這真的瞞嚴重的
同樣的
德國車卻不會有這種問題
要推說這全都是腳踏墊的問題還有很多爭議
腳踏墊有多少人會用換aftermarket牌這種大家自己都知道
但怎麼可能會因為腳踏墊的不同而造成煞車不靈?
腳踏墊只是to cause a fully acceleration, 並不代表他cause brake to malfuntion
所以toyota再這個case裡面就已經知道說他車子有安全上的漏洞並且昭回修正
如何再爆衝情況下煞車(youtube)
krispykreme wrote:
我覺得業代還真的斷章取義
從業代轉貼的文章
NHTSA last year tested throttle electronics in response to a petition from a 2007 Lexus ES 350 owner who had experienced sudden acceleration of his vehicle. The agency denied the petition in October after subjecting the same model of car to “multiple electrical signals” and “magnetic fields.“‘Exhaustive Testing’
＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾＾
基本上來說
NHTSA 在 2009 年就對 2007 款式 ES350 電子油門做過電磁干擾測試
發現根本沒問題所以沒有批准消費者對豐田的 Petition
也就是說
到目前為止
沒有任何一樣證據顯示電子油門有問題
Santee Lexus ES350 四死的報告在 1/28/10 出爐
正式判為踏墊卡死油門踏版
駕駛沒有把車放到空擋
http://autos.aol.com/article/toyota-tragedy-saylor-family
Southlake County- 四死報告在 1/27/10 出爐
主因為車主速度控制不當
無法證明油門踏版有問題
業代亂說話的文章可以停停了
你的文已經說明了，你是個連汽車產業基本作業流程也不懂的門外漢，況且你還指摘別人是業代，卻是無憑無據的指摘，就好像我也可以說是你是Toyota的網軍，不過這一樣是沒有證據的指控，所以這只是個舉例，不過你是個門外漢確實有憑有據的。
1.所有的汽車電子零件於設計測試階段，都會做電磁干擾測試，並非是出了事情才做，不只是單一零件會做，包括成車設計測試時也會做，電力系統的問題，不等於就是電磁干擾，這兩者完全是兩回事。
2.Toyota自己都承認說要換掉，也說有問題所以要換，所以你認為沒問題就沒問題？要知道瓶子只裝半罐水，搖起來才會特別響，我都不敢說一定是這樣了，不曉得你哪來的自信。
3.你所轉貼的連結，不過是AOL Auto某編輯所寫的文章，並非是官方所發布的報告，不要隨便貼個英文網頁，就拿著雞毛當令箭，要是真的沒事，美國NHTSA會大動作的要求Toyota做改善？美國可是個律師可以產生大量國民生產毛額的國家，要是沒確切證據，NHTSA絕對不會動作。
http://cbs2.com/national/toyota.gas.pedal.2.1466283.html
Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said Toyota was slow to deal with safety problems with its gas pedals, asserting in an interview Tuesday that it took government pressure to force the company to recall millions of its most popular vehicles.
LaHood, in an interview with The Associated Press, defended his department's handling of the Toyota investigation and said the Japanese automaker was "a little safety deaf" during its probe of the problem. The company was so resistant, LaHood said, that it took a trip from federal safety officials to Japan to "wake them up" to the seriousness of the pedal problems.
"They should have taken it seriously from the very beginning when we first started discussing it with them," LaHood told AP. "Maybe they were a little safety deaf in their North American office until we went to Japan."
"If it had not been for the work of (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) pushing Toyota to make the recall, traveling to Japan, meeting with the top officials of Toyota in Japan and telling them that their folks in the United States seem to be a little safety deaf when it came to us talking to them, I don't know if the recall would be taking place," LaHood said.
LaHood's remarks were his most pointed since Toyota recalled 2.3 million vehicles in the United States due to concerns over gas pedals that can stick when drivers step on the gas. The Jan. 21 recall followed a separate action in October to recall millions more over problems with pedals catching on floor mats.
Toyota has said it first received a complaint of sticking gas pedals back in 2007 but determined its cars were not at fault, reports CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds.
Former NHTSA administrator Joan Claybrook said Toyota has long been resistant to regulation.
"I think Toyota has been recalcitrant and very secretive and it does not like to recall vehicles and I think it did everything it could to delay this issue," Claybrook told Reynolds.
"The first line of defense is 'The consumer was wrong, they stepped on the accelerator instead of the brake. It's their fault,'" Claybrook said.
The transportation secretary said the government was considering civil penalties for Toyota but declined to elaborate. NHTSA has fined automakers in the past for delaying a recall. The largest came in 2004, when General Motors paid a $1 million fine for failing to conduct a timely recall to correct a safety defect involving the failure of windshield wipers.
But, "It took a trip from (NHTSA deputy administrator) Ron Medford to Japan to wake them up to the idea that this is a serious issue, it's a serious safety issue," LaHood said. "We're not going to sit by and let these kinds of crashes occur without them taking very, very quick action."
LaHood later clarified his remarks, telling AP that Toyota's North American office took the safety problem seriously but had difficulty convincing their counterparts in Japan about its severity. "It wasn't the case that they weren't listening. It was the case that Japan wasn't listening to North America," LaHood said.
"That's the reason that Ron Medford went to Japan. Because I think he was frustrated that the people at the North American office ... were listening to him but I think he felt that that wasn't really getting across to the folks over in Japan," LaHood said.
Toyota apologized to its customers Monday and announced a fix that will involve inserting a piece of steel about the size of a postage into the gas pedal assembly to address potential excess friction. In rare cases, Toyota says, the friction can cause the pedal to become stuck in the depressed position.
Jim Lentz, president of Toyota Motor Sales USA, told reporters Monday that the recalls were an embarrassment for the company but it was acting quickly to address the problem. "We have to redouble our efforts to make sure this doesn't happen again," he said.
Asked for reaction to LaHood's comments to the AP, Toyota said in a statement Tuesday: "Nothing is more important to us than the safety and reliability of the vehicles our customers drive. Secretary LaHood said to us that the soonest possible action would be in the best interests of our customers, and we took his advice very seriously and instituted a recall."
"We are very grateful for his advice and we feel that we have been given a chance to regain our customers' trust," Toyota said.
Federal data show Toyota accelerator complaints have markedly increased in the last two years and totaled nearly 600 in 2009 - facts excluded from sales pitches to customers.
"In the economic downturn they sacrificed quality and now that has come back to bite 'em," new Toyota owner Shirley Marcum told Reynolds.
Beginning in 2003, the government conducted several investigations into reports of unwanted acceleration involving Toyota vehicles but failed to find any evidence that the vehicles were defective. When the government probed reports of floor mats in Lexus vehicles jamming gas pedals, Toyota said there was "no possibility of pedal interference" with the floor mats if they were placed properly and secured.
But a government survey of Lexus owners found dozens of reports of sudden acceleration and evidence that in some crashes owners had pressed hard on the brakes but failed to stop the vehicles. The investigation led Toyota to recall an accessory all-weather floor mat for 55,000 Lexus vehicles in September 2007.
The problems grew last August when a California Highway Patrol officer and three family members were killed in a high-speed crash aboard a 2009 Lexus ES350. The Lexus hit speeds exceeding 120 mph, struck a sport utility vehicle, launched off an embankment, rolled several times and burst into flames as a family member called 911.
There are the increasing reports of runaway acceleration in Toyota models not currently on the recall list; in addition to the Lexus problems, at least one Sienna has been tied to a fatal accident involving accelerator problems.
In that case, and the Lexus crash last year, suspicion fell on the vehicle's entire electronic system rather than a mechanical problem confined to the pedal - something federal officials are now investigating.
In October, Toyota recalled more than 4 million vehicles to replace floor mats that were suspected of causing accelerators to get stuck, leading to crashes. The recall has since grown to more than 5 million vehicles.
Auto analysts estimate that recalling and repairing millions of cars will cost Toyota at least $900 million, with lost sales amounting to some $155 million a week.
Following the latest recall and Toyota's decision to stop selling those vehicles, LaHood told reporters Monday that Toyota had "done the right thing" and urged car owners to contact their dealers immediately and remain cautious until repairs can be made.
But he defended the department's review of the Toyota case in the interview, arguing that NHTSA had conducted several investigations of the vehicles and pushed Toyota to recall the vehicles. "I'm not going to take a back seat to anybody when it comes to safety," LaHood said.
Underscoring his concern, LaHood said the Toyota recalls "may be the most serious safety issue that we have faced here at DOT" during his tenure. "This is a big deal, this is a big safety issue," LaHood said.
The role of the government and the company in the recalls is drawing scrutiny in Congress. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has launched an investigation into the recalls and scheduled a Feb. 10 hearing examining the risk to the public. LaHood and other DOT officials are expected to testify. Committee officials also have asked Yoshi Inaba, chairman and CEO of Toyota Motor North America, to testify and are expected to seek testimony from a consumer or consumer group. Separately, the investigative panel of the House Energy and Commerce Committee is planning a Feb. 25 hearing on the Toyota cases.
krispykreme wrote:
Santee Lexus ES350 四死的報告在 1/28/10 出爐
正式判為踏墊卡死油門踏版
駕駛沒有把車放到空擋
http://autos.aol.com/article/toyota-tragedy-saylor-family
沒有正式判定,
正式的報告上面提及:
1.是Toyota dealer拿了RX400h的腳踏墊給人家用,所以有可能是因為腳踏墊把油門卡死才撞的.
2.報告上指出因為車子撞成稀巴爛,沒辦法確定肇事原因,所以不排除是車上其他系統出問題.
3.這份報告並沒有包含車上的EDR(行車記錄黑盒子)里的資料
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