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10.5代 ALTIS 換裝KONI 1140避震器,開箱


nifan wrote:
這部分是改蠻多的,
連原廠輪胎的扁平比都改成55比馬三的原廠設定60還扁,
不過和Altis9代比 整體懸吊弄得有點太硬,
路況差的地方會有些不舒服
,...(恕刪)



輕量化簧下重量..舒適度會轉好..
例如改前卡鉗..or輕量化鋁圈等等..

nifan wrote:
這部分是改蠻多的,...(恕刪)


嗯嗯,一直進步呢
現在國產新車都有6氣囊了
真的是越晚買車,越好啊

不過很多新車避震器都不行
要不就換避震器
要不就乖乖順順開嚕

感謝您的分享
I tried KYB and Tokico adjustable sport shocks. I think they were uncomfortable in lower speed and unstable in higher speed comparing with Koni, Bilstein, etc. My very old 2007 G35S (with Bilstein PSS10 and all existing old factory parts) is more stable and its steering feels better than my brand new 2017 GSF with OEM suspension

I tried KW V3, PSS10 and Koni+OEM sport springs on my G35S. (each for 3 years) I think KW V3 is much more stable than PSS10 but PSS10 is still much better than OEM. Koni is also very good. If you think those top-end European coilovers like Ohlins, KW, etc. can totally transform your Japanese cars into different level, actually they are not expensive at all. They are cheap!!!

I think the next upgrade for your Altis would be swaybars and tires.

dlin4229 wrote:
I tried KYB...(恕刪)


Thanks for sharing, it's important!
Next time, maybe try changing the brand
Bilstein, is an option
感謝樓主 Chenyikai 的幫忙, 我終於找到了一家可以信任的廠商安裝了Koni Special Active 變色龍避震器, 藉這個機會順便分享一下經驗給有需要的車友

我的車是4.5代前驅的RAV4休旅車,因為里程數極低,一直猶豫該不該改避震器。但是國外家裡另一台車已經升級過Koni FSD 避震器所以每次回台灣開起RAV4 總覺得原廠的避震器操控還行但是舒適度實在不夠,遇上坑坑洞洞就會很明顯的將震動傳到駕駛座,好像頑皮的小孩子不時的揮舞小拳頭偷襲你的小腹一般,不痛但煩不勝煩。
升級Koni後車子在街道低速行駛時與原廠的路感幾乎一樣,但遇上坑洞時對震動的處理就細膩了很多,個人及乘客都感覺彈跳的頻率降低了30-50%左右,前面提到的不適感覺百分之90都被Koni 擋下來了;國道高速行駛的抓地力明顯增強,可以感覺到避震器在彈跳後很努力的抓住地面,不再有原廠設定略微輕浮的操縱感。

Koni 這套避震器目前市場上連安裝大約3萬左右,對於想要提升駕車舒適感又不想花雙倍的價錢安裝有電子調動日系避震器的車友們,是一個我個人可以推薦的選擇,但安裝的廠商需要挑剔一點,個人兩次升級Koni (國內及國外)都遇上需要反复調整的情況,一定要找專業負責的廠商安裝。

再次感謝樓主車友的熱心幫忙


Ps. 兩個月飛快的過去了,我仍然對這次的升級很滿意。 但我必須回應一下所有私訊的朋友們,台灣補丁式的馬路應該是沒救了,這套Koni變色龍無法改變您的人生,雖然我個人覺得花3萬元增加了30-40%的舒適感是合理,畢竟是主觀的。此外,對於開休旅車的朋友,如果您的車況很新,可以順便將彈簧換個稍微短一點的,駕駛的質感會更接近完美。
parahrt

您好可私訊店家,謝謝。

2021-07-19 14:31

lkktony wrote:
感謝樓主 Chenyikai...(恕刪)


恭喜你
不用客氣

到對的地方施工
花錢不用找氣受
I knew this 15 years ago. European dampers are both stable and comfortable...

The only weak points in most Japanese cars are their dampers. That's why many top tier Japanese performance cars like GT-R, GSF, RCF, STI, EVO adopt European dampers...

Damper design is more like ART instead of ENGINEERING and that's why Japanese are not good at it!?!

dlin4229 wrote:
I knew this...(恕刪)


Completely correct
I would like to share my story here...

I own the below two cars.

2000 Nissan Maxima near 200k kms, 3200lb, 5 year old Koni yellow + H&R springs installed, inferior highway in Taiwan

2010 Infiniti M35X only 11k kms, 4000lb, OEM suspension(Tokico), better highway in USA

In 2011 when my wife changed from very old Maxima to almost brand new M35X, she kept complaining that "Why new M35X is unstable and difficult to drive???"

Even though I ask her the same question today! she still says "MAXIMA IS BETTER!!!" but I said "M35X is much more comfortable!" She said "Really!?!" I think she already forgot "Actually that Maxima is stiffer!"... (Maybe it's not so stiff for her!?! )

PS: Now I have PSS10 on my 2007 G35S. She says PSS10 is TOO STIFF. I also installed KW V3 on my G35S 9 years ago. She said KW was OK... In addition I also prefer KONI Yellow to Sachs on my 2017 GSF (GSF in Taiwan is over NTD5,000,000...)


By the way if you drive Maxima and M35X on race track. I think M35X is still faster(even if M35X has the same 0-100 number as Maxima) thanks to M35X's more balance chassis, stiff unit body, etc. However in that Maxima you feel better handling and more confident...

So feeling quick and being quick are two different topics, I think.

PS: Don't get me wrong. My GSF is very stable and more or as stable as all BMWs except M5(F10) or better. So I think you probably know how well your KONI yellow is!!! You're lucky. In the past no one told me that. I learn totally on my own. However you may not believe me because there are so much fake information in our society. So the best way is to learn/feel it by yourself. In addition, different people may have different results... Good luck!!!
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