小欷o wrote:
最近在考慮買相機，也...(恕刪)
看了你的問題跟各樓層的回覆，我個人不推薦你買S系列機身。
首先，你提到的贈品價值，基本上要知道看到的是牌價，整包贈品的實際行情價值大概只有1萬出頭，這是在轉賣得出去的行情價格，而有很高的機率這些贈品無法整套一次脫手。
另外提到Sigma L鏡的支援，同樣的Sigma DN鏡頭，Sigma L鏡在S系列機身的協調性比Sony FE差一點，大約只有等於MC-21轉接Art系列EF鏡的效果，頂多感覺上會好一點點而已，相較於P家原廠鏡的相容性，會有非常明顯的落差。所以說穿了，Sigma L鏡並沒有帶來更豐富且優秀的鏡頭資源，僅有以較低價格來補足原廠鏡沒有的焦段區間。（因為L-mount DN鏡在FE環也有出，且對焦效能較佳）另外，MC-21的支援性沒有很全面，尤其是更新韌體後，原來可以支援的鏡頭會變成不能支援，而且迷焦與不準焦的機率非常非常高，所以千萬不要期待轉接效果。
另外提到對焦，基本上數次的韌體更新，對於AFC的效能提升很有限，可以說是無感更新，基本上會失誤的場景條件，S機身絕對不會突然表現正常或是超能表現給你看，所以不要期待，因為S機的韌體更新大多都是在擴增錄影效果為主（讓你有感），只要記住Panasonic是買錄影機送照相機，這樣就對了，才不會對它有不切實際的期待。
另外樓主希望發色不太用修，這是真的，S機身好處就是懶人拍照專用，進入S機身後，我都是直出轉到手機，就放到家族線上相簿裡了，但前提是照片要準焦，如果很在意張張都要準焦，S機身絕對會讓你失望，而且會讓你吐血，S機身的對焦失誤機率，應該是我用過的機身內最高的，可能部分使用者會覺得沒有這個問題，但我覺得這已經是一個無反機身最基礎的要求卻還達不到，是蠻可惜的。
最後提一下，我目前現役機身是S5，鏡頭有Panasonic 24-70mm 2.8 / 70-200mm 2.8 與 Sigma DN 14-24mm2.8 / 35mm1.2 / 85mm 1.4
前任機身有S1跟S1R，這系統迄今使用兩年。
而重量是個問題，S1系列過重，攜帶與使用上比較難隨心所欲，所以後來換成S5，但以上對焦與副廠鏡問題在S1&5機身都是一樣的狀況。
Wahaha214 wrote:
第一張G8拍的第二張GH5拍的，都使用自動白平衡模式，有補光與沒補光差異不大，理論上閃燈打下去相機會先做自動白平衡(會吃閃燈的光做自動白平衡，不是閃燈打出之前)完才做取像，至少CANON TTL閃燈系統是這樣運作，不會發生這樣的色偏，因為機頂閃燈的色溫都在5000-5400K左右，除非閃燈太爛
這狀況很妙，不是呈現對比色與互補色，而是相似色的色偏，地毯是紅的後面的白色偏紫
其他我拍的人像照我就不PO了，只要有陽光能直射到的狀況下是正常的
Wahaha214 wrote:
現場不是陰天，出大太陽，只是沒陽光直射，建築物顏色是中性灰(台北賓館)所以反射回來的光線不至於有太大色偏，你說的濾色片是CC濾鏡，這樣的距離(5m內)以前用CANON系統還OK沒這樣的狀況
跟樓主抱歉，還是離題一下
看看這位寫的
說GH5色偏(P家相機不好)，然後再說CANON不會這樣(也沒在現場同條件拍)
出問題一定是因為P家相機的問題
好多文章都是同一套路
啊我想請問這位先生
你只看到背景色偏
你有看到裡面的人戴的白手套，穿的白衣服，穿的白鞋子
都沒有色偏嗎???
你怎麼不去想，這個背景的白是真的白嗎???
背景的表面材質反射出來的光不會偏色嗎???
拍不好都是P家相機的問題
真的是高尚厲害呢!!!
snsevoltsuj wrote:
請問您的機身都有更新(恕刪)
他有更新韌體，還清楚的指出在錄影方面更新有感，對焦方面無感，下面是S5的更新履歷，所以要說他沒看過韌體更新履歷嗎?
Jul. 13, 2021
Ver.2.3
Added functions
- RAW video data output over HDMI to Blackmagic Video Assist 12G HDR has been supported.
» [5.9K] / [4K] / [Anamorphic (4:3) 3.5K] 12-bit RAW video data can be output over HDMI to Blackmagic Video Assist 12G HDR, to be recorded as Blackmagic RAW.
* All functions may not be available depending on the situation.
* DaVinci Resolve or DaVinci Resolve Studio is required to play back the Blackmagic RAW data.
DaVinci Resolve Studio is required to edit the Blackmagic RAW data.
Expanded compatibility with DJI Gimbal
- Active Track Function of DJI Gimbal "DJI RS 2" and "DJI RSC 2" can be used.
* All functions may not be available depending on the situation.
For details, please check the DJI official announcement.
· DJI RS 2 Release Notes
· DJI RSC 2 Release Notes
Improved operational stability
- There were cases where line-like noise appeared on the external monitor connected over HDMI. This bug has been fixed.
- In some picture quality modes of video setting, there were cases where a file that cannot be recognized as a video file was generated when the camera is moved quickly or when the subject moves at high speed. This bug has been fixed.
Operating Instructions for the Change of Specifications
Apr. 6, 2021
Ver.2.2
Added functions
- Users can choose to add or not to add camera orientation information in [Vertical Position Info (Video)] menu to prevent unintended image rotation in playback.
- [Power Save Mode] can be selectable while the camera is powered with an AC adaptor(DMW-AC10, sold separately).
Other improvements
- There were rare cases that the display such as AF frame blinks during video recording. This phenomenon has been solved.
- There were rare cases that operating the camera during photo/video playback caused a freeze depending on the operation timing. This phenomenon has been solved.
- There were cases that the specified AF position was shifted when using Pinpoint AF in full screen display. This phenomenon has been solved.
Operating Instructions for the Change of Specifications
Dec. 22, 2020
Ver.2.1
There were cases the focus cannot be properly set on the touched subject when using a Touch AF. This bug has been fixed.
Nov. 24, 2020
Ver.2.0
Improved AF performance
- Recognition performance during video recording in V-Log has been improved.
- Human/Animal recognition can be set ON or OFF when the AF mode is set to [1-Area] or [1-Area+].
- [AF+MF] can be used during video recording.
Added video functions
- The following C4K(4096x2160) video recording mode in MOV format has been supported.
* C4K60p/50p, 4:2:0 8bit LongGOP, 150Mbps, LPCM
* C4K30p/25p/24p, 4:2:2 10bit LongGOP, 150Mbps, LPCM
* C4K30p/25p/24p, 4:2:0 8bit LongGOP, 100Mbps, LPCM
- RAW video data output over HDMI has been supported.
* [5.9K] / [4K] / [Anamorphic (4:3) 3.5K] 12-bit RAW video data can be output over HDMI.
The Apple ProRes RAW can be recorded on Atomos NINJA V.
· All functions may not be available depending on the situation.
· Software that supports Apple ProRes RAW is required to edit RAW video recorded with NINJA V.
· Apply the LUT(Look up table ) available on the following customer supports site to make the same color grading as V-Log/V-Gamut
https://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/download/lut/s1h_raw_lut/
- It is possible to display the Vector Scope.
- [Master Pedestal Level] function has been added.
- [SS/Gain Operation] function has been added.
Other added functions
- [L.ClassicNeo] and [L.Monochrome S] have been added in [Photo Style].
- [Horizontal Image Flip(Monitor)] / [Vertical Image Flip(Monitor)] enables to reverse or not to reverse the monitor image when the free-angle monitor is rotated.
Improved operational stability
- There were cases low contrast images were not properly saved. This bug has been fixed.
- There were cases the light trails were interrupted in Live View Composite shooting. This bug has been fixed.
- There were cases linelike noise arose at the bottom of the image when it was shot at high shutter speed. This bug has been fixed.
有針對錄影提升效能而已，拍照沒有
Ver.2.0
Improved AF performance
- Recognition performance during video recording in V-Log has been improved.
S1在對焦方面的更新只有這個最明顯
Nov. 24, 2020
Ver.1.6
Improved AF performance
- Tracking and recognition performance of AF have been improved with an addition of head recognition.
- Recognition performance during video recording in V-Log has been improved.
提升追蹤與辨識的效能(這和對焦精度是兩碼子事)，S1與S5韌體沒有對於對焦精度提升的改進
https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/ff/dl/s1.html
如果在演算法上M43與FF對焦精度相同，FF景深更淺，畫素更高，對焦精度的要求在FF會被放大，M43看不到的在FF會顯現出來
snsevoltsuj wrote:
請問您的機身都有更新...(恕刪)
我的機身/鏡頭/轉接環都是韌體更新到最新版。
最近一次11/9 的S pro 70-200mm F2.8 的V1.1更新，簡單室內測試下有明顯提升合焦速度，但目前還沒機會帶去室外拍，理論上應該是有感更新。
我之前是Canon R跟Sony A73全幅主力，兼併使用Gh5跟G9作4K錄影之後才轉進S全幅系列，而你說對了，當時我在M43之下並沒有感覺到合焦焦慮（我不會稱為凖焦焦慮，因為機身就是給你一個嗶嗶合焦訊號，當時常駐使用Leica 12-60 2.8/4跟8-16與其他Pana原生鏡頭，沒有感覺到明顯的合焦失誤，但當時是有很深的雜訊焦慮，因為G9螢幕太漂亮，其實檔案入了電腦後發現ISO雜訊一堆，所以這也是轉進S1全幅的原因）
所以轉進S之後，當時初代韌體的MC21轉接環，對於Canon L鏡的相容性還行，用過16-35ii/24-70ii/70-200大白i&ii/70-300胖白等，在MC21韌體更新之前，都還能正常合焦，但更新轉接環之後，有些本來不能用的就可以用了，但原來可以用的卻都不能用了，都會出現假合焦，所以後來就放生L跟這接環，轉進S pro小三元鏡頭再轉二元鏡頭，但後來發現AFC連續擊中效果並沒有顯著因為鏡頭升級而提升，所以現在算是不上不下的狀態。
不過如果是要談4K錄影，我覺得這個可能真的是最強的機身，我曾經使用S1無中斷連拍3個30分鐘的4K60P，進第三次30分鐘保險起見先換過一次電池，而只是使用一般的非高速大容量SD記憶卡之下，居然沒有熱當卡彈，之後就對於他的缺陷就釋懷了。
臉部/眼睛/動物的AFC與追蹤AFC的拍照成功條件不同，賽車追焦可以透過縮光圈提高出片成功率，但人像攝影會使用淺景深達到攝影要求，而在眼睛AFC的成功出片率，明顯低於Sony與Canon系統。
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