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請推幾顆經典老鏡


小弟目前現役 D700

自從入手 105 F2.5K 之後
覺得這顆很好玩啊 景深很漂亮鏡身質感也很好
比50 1.8D 還常用

不過對於早期的尼康不是很了解
希望有資深的老手 可以提供幾顆
千元價位的經典老鏡 焦段不限! 不磨屁股為主
2017-05-15 22:58 發佈
文章關鍵字 經典老鏡

interfoldbeer wrote:
小弟目前現役 D700...(恕刪)
建議你找找看這一顆!https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=248&t=3028493

lowt865162 wrote:
建議你找找看這一顆...(恕刪)


跟我的105 2.5 似乎同焦段 表現有什麼不一樣的地方嗎?

interfoldbeer wrote:
跟我的105 2.5...(恕刪)
我收了三顆105,有AIS105mm2.5、AF105mm2.8VR、還有這顆微距105mm2.8。會用這顆是意圖慢慢拍著玩,最近距離一比一到無限遠要轉一又3/4圈,其實也因為kiron是名氣響噹噹的副廠牌,當年賣得不比原廠鏡便宜,另一顆是kiron28mm光圈2那一顆,都是稀有品。
interfoldbeer wrote:
小弟目前現役 D700...(恕刪)

28/2、35/1.4、50/1.2、85/1.4

都是經典好鏡
微距經典Nikon 55mm f/3.5 micro compensating aperture又怎可以錯過呢?

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=248&t=3071456
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/55256540
http://blog.dcview.com/article.php?a=VmgFZQdhUWQ%253D

你可以學會已成歷史的"compensating aperture"光圈補償是什麼意思, 在沒有ttl測光的年代, compensating的幫助, 簡單來說, 越是微距的焦段, 光圈就會自動物理上的放大(除非已經是最大), 拿在手上玩時, 一邊改變焦距, 一邊看到光圈在放大收小, 是很有趣的事! 如果你學懂為什麼它要這樣做, 你對在沒有ttl時的鏡頭光學認知也會加深一些

它也是真正的微距鏡, 因為以前的微距鏡, 也只能怕微距, 越遠距, 能力越差, 但實測在微距時, 能力超強可以比美現代的鏡頭甚至更強. 所以這代以後的微距, 其實還不應該再稱自己為微距吧!

這一顆的價值也並不貴, 甚至可以說超平, 不懂貨的數十美元就有交易, 問題是你能不能找到, 哈哈

另外推介一支35mm f/1.4"輻射版", 1970年代的時候, 人們還用放射性物質去弄鏡頭, 即是有名的"含鉛鏡頭", 其實大部份都不是用鉛, 而是用另一種放射物質(我忘了名字), 1970前後忽然興起"含鉛鏡頭", 因為此等物質做出來的鏡頭透光率最高, 成像的空間感很強, 但有黃化的問題產生, 同時不知什麼聯盟因為工業安全的關係, 全面禁止這類鏡頭制造(其實放射性很低, 遠不及日光的輻射), 從此只興幾年的"含鉛鏡頭"就成為絕響.

其實"含鉛鏡頭"的制造也很少, 大廠也很少用, 就Nikon來說, 就只得這支35mm f/1.4, 所以Nikon玩家的話這支值得收藏. 由於含"鉛"的關係, 所以這類鏡頭雖然漂亮, 但在若干年後會黃化, 大概壽命只得10-20年就會黃掉了, 所以如果現在找得對這支鏡頭的話, 就一定是黃掉了的, 不黃的就不是含"鉛"了, 不要買, 哈哈

黃了的鏡片能拍照嗎? 其實是可以的, 因為數碼相機有白平衡修正, 實測來說自動白平衡, 再調冷一點就可以得出自然的色彩了. 聽聞在強勁日光下可以暫時去除黃化的問題, 但沒有刻意去嘗試

cyskyhi01 wrote:
微距經典Nikon...(恕刪)
大大說的應該是C版35mm1.4,玻璃含有釷(Thorium),之後的AI板就改善了。

lowt865162 wrote:
大大說的應該是C版35mm1...(恕刪)


謝謝大大提供補充資料, 應該就是含釷鏡頭, 小弟再找找一些資料, 原來影響的鏡頭以Kodak為主, 受影響的也有很多鏡, 但Nikon真的沒記錯只得一只:

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Radioactive_lenses

Lenses Tested Radioactive (by the author)Edit
Kodak Ektar 101mm f/4.5 (Miniature Crown Graphic camera) lens mfg. 1946
Kodak Ektar 38mm f/2.8 (Kodak Instamatic 814 camera) lens mfg 1968-1970
Kodak Ektanar 50mm f/2.8 (Kodak Signet 80 camera) lens mfg. 1958-1962 (3 examples)
Kodak Ektanar 90mm f/4 (Kodak Signet 80 camera) lens mfg. 1958-1962
Kodak Ektanar, 44mm f/2.8 (Kodak Signet 30, Kodak Signet 50, Kodak Automatic 35/Motormatic 35 cameras) lenses mfg. 1959-1969
Kodak Ektanon 50mm f/3.9 (Kodak Bantam RF camera) lens mfg. 1954-1957
Kodak Ektanon 46mm f/3.5 (Kodak Signet 40 camera) lens mfg. 1956-1959
Kodak Anastar 44mm f/3.5 (Kodak Pony IV camera)
Kodak Color Printing Ektar 96mm f/4.5 lens mfg. 1963
Lenses Reported Elsewhere As RadioactiveEdit
Argus Cintagon 50mm f/2.8
Bell & Howell Director Series (Model 1208?) XL Super 8 movie camera; Zoom Lens f: 1.2 \ F: 9-22.5 mm
Canon FL 50/1.4 (#15324) Up to 770 cpm at the rear lens. (very early version) http://www.billead.com/canonfl/
Canon FL 50/1.8 I (#58233): Up to 450 cpm / 26 µSv/h at the back lens, up to 7 cpm / 0.4 µSv/h behind camera or at the lens barrel. (early version with graphic hyperfocal distance scale)
Canon FL 58/1.2 (#25516, #44528): Up to 180 cpm / 10 µSv/h at the back lens, up to 30 cpm / 1.7 µSv/h behind camera or at the lens barrel. YouTube
Canon FD 17mm f/4
Canon FD 35mm f/2.0 (versions from the early 1970's, concave; chrome filter ring)
Canon FD 55mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical (Measured at 46532 CPM @ front element; S.S.C non-Aspherical is not radioactive) YouTube
Canon (SUPER-CANOMATIC LENS) R 50mm 1:1.8 No.78xxx YouTube
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 55mm f1.4 (measured at 2360 nSv/h)
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f1.8 "Zebra" (1964-67, up to serial number 8552600)
Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 80mm f2.8 "Zebra" "(Only P6 mount version )
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 50mm f4 "Zebra" "(Only P6 mount version ) YouTube
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f2.8 (source?)
Carl Zeiss Jena Prakticar 50mm f1.4 (1st version with engravings around the outer side of barrel)
Carl Zeiss Tessar 80mm f/2.8 (old silver Hasselblad version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKyc4LIIB6c)
Enna München Lithagon 1:3.5 35mm (M42) (DCC.de)
Focal (Kmart store brand) 35mm f/2.8
Fujica Fujinon 19mm f/3.5 EBC (Arkku at mflenses.com)
Fujica Fujinon 35mm f/1.9 EBC (Arkku at mflenses.com)
Fujica Fujinon 50mm f/1.4 non-EBC early style = non-uniformly segmented focusing ring (measured at 35137 CPM @ back element)
Fujica Fujinon 50mm f/1.4 EBC early style = non-uniformly segmented focusing ring YouTube (unspecified EBC or not)
Fujica Fujinon 100mm f/2.8 EBC (Arkku at mflenses.com)
Fujica Fujinon 400mm f/4.5 EBC (Arkku at mflenses.com)
Fujica Fujinon 600mm f/5.6 EBC (Arkku at mflenses.com)
GAF Anscomatic 38mm f/2.8 (GAF Anscomatic 726 camera)
Industar 61 L/Z MC is NOT radioactive, as the myth says (L is for Lanthanum. Only 0,089 % of total naturally found Lanthanum (La-138) isotope is radioactive, and even it has half-life of 105 billion years).
Kodak Aero-Ektars (various models) YouTube
Kodak Ektanon 4-inch Projection Lens f/3.5
Kodak Instamatic M24/26 Super 8 Camera YouTube
Kodak Ektar 80mm f/2.8 (for Hasselblad 1600F and 1000F, made 1948-1950)
Kodak Ektar 135mm f/3.5 (for Hasselblad 1600F and 1000F, made 1949)
Konica Hexanon AR 50mm f1.4 (smallest aperture 16; green AE marking)
Konica Hexanon 57mm f1.2 YouTube
Konica Hexanon 21mm f4 SN 7029XXX, primarily thorium and thorium decay products
Leica 50mm f/2 Collapsible Summicron YouTube
Mamiya/Sekor 55mm f/1.4 (m42, chrome+black, flat rear element) (Measured by specialists, 25th april 2014 @ Poissy, France: from 5 to 10 µSV/h by direct touch & 1720 CPM).
Mamiya/Sekor SX 55mm f/1.8 6,8 µSV/h https://youtu.be/DZeqOwv00jI?t=4s
Mitakon (Zhongyi) 50mm f0.95 Ver I Speedmaster (4 Lanthanum optic elements)
Mitakon (Zhongyi) 50mm f0.95 Ver II Dark Knight(1 Lanthanum optic element)
Nikkor 35mm f/1.4 (early variant with thorium glass elements)
Olympus Zuiko MC Macro 20mm f/3.5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/s58y/6802092736/)
Olympus Zuiko Auto-S 1:1,2/55 mm (first version with thorium glass elements)
Olympus Zuiko Auto-S 1:1,4/50 mm (only first version "Silvernose" is Radioactive) YouTube
Olympus Zuiko Pen F 1:1.4/40mm (rear element)
Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 1:1.2/55mm (only a specific version? another copy reported as non-radioactive) #000670 - 37µSv/h
Rikenon AUTO 55mm f/1.4 (22937 CPM rear element)
SMC Takumar 20mm f/4.5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/s58y/6802092736/)
SMC Takumar 35mm f/2.0 (Asahi Optical Co.)
Super Takumar 35mm f/2.0 (Asahi Optical Co.)
SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4 (Asahi Optical Co.) YouTube YouTube
Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4 (only the latest version with 7 elements)
SMC Macro Takumar 50mm f/4.0 (http://forum.mflenses.com/radioactivity-of-old-manual-lenses-t25714.html)
Super Takumar 55mm f/1.8 (Asahi Optical Co.)
SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8 (Asahi Optical Co.) YouTube YouTube (not all)
Super Takumar 55mm f/2.0 (Asahi Optical Co.) YouTube
SMC Takumar 55mm f/2.0 (Asahi Optical Co.)
SMC Takumar 85mm f/1.8 (Asahi Optical Co.)
Super Takumar 6x7 105mm f2.4 (Asahi Optical Co.)
Steinheil Auto-Quinon 55mm f/1.9 KE mount
Tele-Takumar 6.3 300mm (Asahi Optical Co.) http://jbmedia.zenfolio.com/tt300_63/he0cf60f#he0cf60f
Topcor RE GN 50/1.4 (Lanthanum glass [source? Lanthanum or Thorium?]) YouTube
Topcor UV 50mm f/2
Yashinon-DS 50mm f1.4 (Yashica) (Measured at 680 nSv/h)
Yashinon-DS 50mm f1.7 (Yashica) (Measured at 762 nSv/h)
Yashinon-DX 50mm f/1.4 (Yashica) (Measured at 1359 nSv/h)
Yashinon-DX 50mm f/1.8 (Yashica) YouTube
Yashinon-DS-M 50mm f/1.4 (Yashica) (Measured at 572 nSv/h)
Yashinon-DS-M 50mm f/1.7 (Yashica) (Measured at 798 nSv/h) YouTube
Yashinon-DS-M 55mm f/1.2 (Yashica) (Measured at 1056 nSv/h)
Yashinon-ML 50mm f/1.7 (Yashica) YouTube (likely only the older design with 'YASHICA LENS ML 50mm 1:1.7 YASHICA MADE IN JAPAN' writings is radioactive)
Yashinon 55mm f1.2 (Tomioka) (also branded as Cosinon, Chinon, Tominon, Tomioka or Revuenon; Measured at 981 nSv/h)
Leitz Wetzlar Summicron 5cm f2 (M39)
Vivitar Series 1 28mm f1.9
Voigtlander 50mm Nokton Prominent
Wollensak Raptar 28-75mm f2.3 YouTube
Zenitar-M 50mm f1.7 (Lanthanum glass)

interfoldbeer wrote:
千元價位的經典老鏡 焦段不限! 不磨屁股為主


有點難啊....
還是千元價位指的是不到萬元?
55mm f2.5 micro
55mm f1.2 ai
28mm f2.8 ais

以上都不錯玩
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