hata6136 wrote:
每個人的看法不盡相同...(恕刪)
不能只看MTF
否則PHOTOZONE不會給小白兔較高的整體評價
個人有用過N家，C家，L家及H家系統，N家最大宗，L家次之，N家接觸最久，C家因早期設計為快門優先，一直不喜，直至在接觸L家後，想尋找可替代且較經濟的系統，才再次深入了解C家系統，只能說各家各有擅長的焦段。L家&H家因定位不同，不用比較，N家及C家在總因立場不同吵的不可開交。在這焦段，N家及C家以光學效能來說，我用過的N家老鏡Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 mm f/2.8 ED
(AIS) 1980年左右生產，口徑95mm，至今不論是N家或是C家，在此焦段似乎沒有生產出光學效能超越此鏡的新產品，實在令人扼脕。
話又說回來，曾見過一個前輩，拿著底片傻瓜機拍照，屢屢獲得攝影大賞獎項。再想想手邊系統再好，拍不出佳作，也不過是收藏家罷了，各位說是嗎?
我真的是來亂的!感謝提出不同看法，不用特意回覆爭論，謝謝!
Nikon D600經濟實惠的全幅數位單眼
Kodak 的數位單眼我的最愛，但是夜盲、耗電、彩虹紋
Leica 的光學捨我其誰
ystorng wrote:
我來亂的!個人有用過...(恕刪)
前輩:
可以分享一些這顆AIS 80-200/2.8 ED鏡頭的心得嗎?
這顆本身很稀有，分享擁有不多!
有空可以寫一下一些細節部份的文章，當然有一些照片可以分享是最好!
One of the true classics of the 1980's, the manual-focus 80-200 is extraordinary in every aspect: Optical performance, workmanship, rarity, and sheer bulk. This kind of exquisite quality is unlike almost anything seen today. However, weighing in at nearly 2 kg this isn't something you would like to do hand-held photography with, which taken together with its elevated price might explain why it quickly was discontinued.
The geometric distortion is unusually modest going from a trace of barrel at 80 mm to just detectable pincushion at 200 mm. The image rendition is vividly saturated and crisp at all aperture settings although the smallest f/22-f/32 do soften the image a little by diffraction. Flare and ghosting are remarkably well under control considered the state-of-art optics comprising 15 elements in 11 groups, but if you are intent on getting your share of flare and ghosts, then you assuredly can fulfil your need just by pointing the lens into the sun.
我住南勢角，假日偶而會在永和四號公園出沒，如你有N家機身，可以先約過來試拍，你寫鏡頭評論好了!回頭再密email給你。
Nikon D600經濟實惠的全幅數位單眼
Kodak 的數位單眼我的最愛，但是夜盲、耗電、彩虹紋
Leica 的光學捨我其誰
ystorng wrote:
以下是N系專家Bjørn Rørslett對於Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 mm f/2.8 ED (AIS)的評論...(恕刪)
有趣的是Bjørn Rørslett在Best of best 的鏡頭集中並未提及該鏡頭, Zoom Lens當中70-200mm焦段推薦的是小黑五(DX only, 大概也是因為測試當下還沒推出小黑六), 底下是各焦段推薦的鏡頭
Wide-angle lenses
24 mm f/3.5 PC-E ED N Nikkor (wide-angle tilt and shift, DX/FX)
35 mm f/1.4 Nikkor (shines on FX)
28 mm f/2 Nikkor (excellent for DX, FX, and on film)
28 mm f/2.8 Nikkor (AIS, close focus to 0.2 m)
Normal lenses
50 mm f/2 Nikkor-H (AI)
50 mm f/1.8 Nikkor
58 mm f/1.2 Noct-Nikkor
50 mm f/1.4 Nikkor (latest versions, including AF-D)
Medium short ("portrait") lenses
AF 85 mm f/1.4 Nikkor
AF 105 mm f/2 DC Nikkor
105 mm f/2.5 Nikkor (Gauss design)
85 mm f/1.4 Nikkor (MF, AIS)
Short telephoto lenses
AFS 200 mm f/2 ED IF VR G
AF 180 mm f/2.8 ED-IF Nikkor
200 mm f/2 ED-IF Nikkor (AIS)
180 mm f/2.8 ED Nikkor (AIS)
Long telephoto lenses
AFS 300 mm f/2.8 ED-IF Nikkor (Mk. I )
AFS 400 mm f/2.8 ED-IF G VR Nikkor (only tested on FX)
AFS 500 mm f/4 ED-IF Nikkor
Lenses for close-up photography
AFS 60 mm f/2.8 Micro-Nikkor ED G N (well, sometimes "newer" is in fact better!)
55 mm f/3.5 Micro-Nikkor (non-AI, old, compensating type, mid-to-late 1960's)
AF 200 mm f/4 ED-IF Micro-Nikkor
85 mm f/2.8 PC-Micro-Nikkor
Zoom lenses
AFS 14-24 mm f/2.8 ED G N Nikkor
AFS 200-400 mm f/4 ED-IF VR G Nikkor
AFS 24-70 mm f/2.8 ED G FX Nikkor (the old king 28-70/2.8 has been overthrown by a new, state-of-the-art optic)
AFS 70-200 mm f/2.8 G VR ED-IF Nikkor (NOTE: DX format only, covering power insufficient for FX)
AFS 17-35 mm f/2.8 ED-IF Nikkor
Special applications
105 mm f/4.5 UV-Nikkor [discontinued]
55 mm f/1.2 Oscilloscope-Nikkor [discontinued]
Any of the many Ultra-Micro-Nikkors or Macro-Nikkors [discontinued]
^^A 請多多指教~
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