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更新:國外機油發展現況及趨勢討論,飛踢台灣神油的假象及技倆~~

使用越稀薄的油或長效油已經跟氣候無關了,怎麼到現在還是有人一直在講氣候台灣幾十年的奇特機油觀念真的根深蒂固且奇特,把小小的島國氣候搞的是世界級嚴苛,以為只有台灣都會開車走走停停,以後台灣北中南是不是也要推薦不同用油?現在PO文此刻台北下大雨,南部高雄可是還大太陽熱翻了~

去看看現在機油發展情況及數據,都是全氣候了~反而應該參考的是該機油通過哪些車廠的認證及規範,而不是通過台灣觀念及保養場口碑的認證。

歐洲(土耳其也算呢)的長效油最高認證的都來到0W30了~那前面0W許多地區非寒帶國家用不用的到?

teabox wrote:
使用越稀薄的油或長效...(恕刪)

teabox wrote:
使用越稀薄的油或長效...(恕刪)


TEABOX~~~我覺得你很好玩~~有一些人的觀念原本就是這樣子的~阿你又要一直灌輸你的觀念

然後又一堆人在那邊砲~~~不要再回復了


走~~~我們去旁邊玩沙


桃園雨有夠大的啦
teabox wrote:
應該參考的是該機油通過哪些車廠的認證及規範,而不是通過台灣觀念及保養場口碑的認證。

別忘了還有台灣流行的神人手指搓揉油膜認證

豬頭剋星 wrote:

別忘了還有台灣流行...(恕刪)


+1~~我看過用吃的!~~~還說潤滑度普通而已!!
我給入門entry-level參考..
1)機油價格: 大約一瓶100上下
2)機油屬性: 基礎礦基
3)機油規格: 坊間普羅10w40(品牌以您認知/熟悉為宜..小弟不得罪人)
適用: 較舊車款、預算較緊、半年不到5000換油
其實..半年 or 5000..粉快就到
k8 2021撞爛報廢 ; VW vento 1.8CL 01M原汁未改 2024已拖走報廢了
目前選擇的方向,夏天要到了,因此10-40(50)或15-40(50)?
這些規格的油很多賣的也經濟。
volks and k8 wrote:
其實..半年 or 5000..粉快就到-...(恕刪)

業務跑得比較勤的約2個月就7500KM了
夏天:Mobil 1 5W50 SM原裝法國進口1L包裝銀瓶(含PAO成分)
冬天:Cevron 5W40 SM原裝美國進口946cc包裝銀瓶(Mercedes Benz 長效油認證)

5000km換油一次,絕對夠用了...
volks and k8 wrote:
適用: 較舊車款、預算較緊、半年不到5000換油
半年/5000..先到先換
k8 2021撞爛報廢 ; VW vento 1.8CL 01M原汁未改 2024已拖走報廢了
teabox wrote:
使用越稀薄的油或長效油已經跟氣候無關了,怎麼到現在還是有人一直在講氣候台灣幾十年的奇特機油觀念真的根深蒂固且奇特,把小小的島國氣候搞的是世界級嚴苛,以為只有台灣都會開車走走停停,以後台灣北中南是不是也要推薦不同用油?現在PO文此刻台北下大雨,南部高雄可是還大太陽熱翻了~

去看看現在機油發展情況及數據,都是全氣候了~反而應該參考的是該機油通過哪些車廠的認證及規範,而不是通過台灣觀念及保養場口碑的認證。

歐洲(土耳其也算呢)的長效油最高認證的都來到0W30了~那前面0W許多地區非寒帶國家用不用的到?



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您說機油的選用與氣候無關.....那幹麻還這麼辛苦的分SAE等級甚至還搞啥複級黏度機油勒,連標示都不用標了。
沒人說小島氣候是世界級嚴苛,小島並不大南北兩者差異會有紐約州與邁阿密兩者極端嗎?
台灣在北回歸線經過的亞熱帶有需要用到0W30甚至0W20、0W5 的油? 注意一下,我不是說不能用喔,是問說"有需要"嗎??
您說該參考的是該機油通過哪些車廠的認證及規範....這我很認同
那來看看BMW對US market車主的機油建議吧...
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Owner/SyntheticEngineOils.aspx
內容如下:
Required maintenance work or services should be performed for your vehicle by your authorized BMW center.

BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil is recommended for scheduled engine oil changes.


BMW High Performance SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Oil* (BMW part number 07 51 0 017 866)

* Does not apply to M vehicles - see below

BMW recommends that you check your engine oil level whenever you add fuel to your vehicle.

If you need to add oil between oil changes and BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil is unavailable, you may top up the oil level with one of the following approved synthetic oils. For information on checking your engine oil level refer to your vehicle's Owner's Manual.

The oils listed below meet BMW's Long-life rating and are acceptable for use in BMW Passenger vehicles and SAVs in the US market with gasoline engines.


BMW Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market:



Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30

Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40

Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30

Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30


Use only oils with an API rating of SM or higher.

The choice of the right SAE grade is based on the climatic conditions in the region in which you normally drive your BMW. 這句看一下好咩~

To best determine which SAE grade is best suited for your vehicle, contact an authorized BMW center.

The following is the only recommended and approved synthetic oil for BMW M (Motorsport) vehicles in the US market with gasoline engines, at the present time.
BMW Long-life rating LL-01 Synthetic Oils for BMW M vehicles equipped with S54, S62, S65 or S85 engines:



Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Engine Oil

Castrol Formula RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Engine Oil (BMW part number 07 51 0 009 420)


If Castrol High Performance Synthetic Oil is not available and you need to add oil between oil changes, only use synthetic oils with the following specifications for M vehicles:



Viscosity - preferred SAE 10W-60

Alternative - SAE 10W-40, SAE 5W-50 or SAE 10W-50


Use only oils with an API rating of SJ/CF, SK/CF or higher.

The following is a listing of synthetic oils recommended and approved for use in the BMW B7 ALPINA in the US market:

BMW High Performance SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Oil (BMW part number 07 51 0 017 866)

Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30 Synthetic Oil


美國BMW原廠建議黏度選擇是要考量氣候的~~
機油選用必須符合原廠規範甚至更高~~
M系車車的S54, S62, S65 or S85 engines還要用不同的機油捏~~而且還看不到建議的油品中有0WXX的黏度耶
所以您說的:歐洲(土耳其也算呢)的長效油最高認證的都來到0W30了~那前面0W許多地區非寒帶國家用不用的到?
有答案了~美國BMW M系車輛使用S54, S62, S65 or S85 engines的車子並沒有建議使用前面0W的機油喔~~
機油是看氣候條件、引擎需求、還有原廠規範等級去選擇的~~
0W開頭並不是神油,不是所有用車條件下都適用的,況且還有一個重要因素"價錢"
0W20、0W5這種好物,價錢通常不會很美麗~~如果非必需一定要使用,那C/P值不用考量嗎?
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