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[疑問]為何Mac都已經換成Intel平台在"非"蘋果電腦的產品下都不能灌?

Antus wrote:
irst, from iTune for Windows, and now, Safari for windows. maybe next is iLife for windows, then iWork for windows, and finally, OSX for windows. which make perfect sense.


iTune for Windows...
要是 iTune 沒出 Windows 版本,iPod 早葛屁了。

Safari for Windows...
Windows 上開發人員還是比 OS X 上的多很多。iPhone 需要這個人才。

反觀 iLife/iWork/OS X 並不會對 Apple 其他什麼東西有益處。相反的會造成硬體銷售降低。
我的 Blog http://snowmen-world.blogspot.com/
這是因為 Apple 在硬體上有作保護, 版子上會多一顆TPM (Trusted Platform Module)晶片,
這顆晶片的主要功能是作各種加密保護, 比如說硬碟資料加密, Thinkpad 也有同樣的晶片.

不過想在 PC 上安裝Mac OS X "技術上" 還是有可能的, 主要還是修改作業系統核心,
跳過檢查TPM的部分, 國外已經有破解網站了:
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

不太確定這種修改是否合法, Mac OS X 的系統核心是開放原始碼的 Darwin Project,
所以修改核心可能是合法的, 但其他部分如GUI是否可以繼續使用就不確定了.

snowmen wrote:
iTune for ...(恕刪)


never say never,

i certainly can see Apple bring iLife to windows, when Apple make a tighter intergration between iPhone, iPod touch and iLife.

for example, iPhoto08 has event and unique scrolling function. on iPhone and iTouch, the scrolling is still the old troditional way. if Apple integrate iPhoto with iPhone. it is certainly apple will bring the same function onto Windows.

same as iVedio. right now, u can only import video u take to iPhone, but u can't edit it. When more and more people have video camera, naturally, people will want to edit them and port the edited video to iPhone/iPod. On windows, u need to use 3rd party software to edit it first before port onto iPhone. iVideo on windows will solve the problem...

anyway, all in all, i expect to see iLife for windows next year. when Apple switch to x86 system, release software onto windows is easy.

btw, 5 years ago when apple release first generation of iPod. It was Apple only. who would think Apple will switch to Intel CPU 5 years later.

and for current price of Apple hardware, the incentive to use PC and OSX is quite small. (iMac 20 inch cost only $1000 USD, how much u can save by using PC with OSX?)
這樣講不知對不對 ?

OS 要能灌 , BIOS 要合 , 主機板 , chipset 要合 , 所有周邊 driver 要合 , .......??

so 這些製造商跟 mac 之間要講好....

要是開放.那種Mac自然而然優越感,將淹沒在一堆廉價醜不堪言軟體中...殺了我吧~
Antus wrote:
and for current price of Apple hardware, the incentive to use PC and OSX is quite small. (iMac 20 inch cost only $1000 USD, how much u can save by using PC with OSX?))


Well~~~ I need a non-AIO computer with independent graphic card, just like many professionals demanded.
Now, the cheapest I can get is CAD$2440. It's not USD$1000!

But with OSX PC, I can get just a Core 2 Duo processor, a decent RAM, MB that works with Darwin, and graphic card that work with Darwin, and a sound card that work with Darwin. $1000 can give you a really good performing computer and as stable as iMac. All these above are TOTALLY LEGAL.

Now, the only thing is just to patch it. It's a bit of problem with EULA and 千禧法案. But I mean if Apple takes these two factor out totally so nobody have doubt about legality, and even doesn't "block" it. How many professionals will buy Mac Pro?
Most of them will buy a non-AIO that costs around USD$1000! CAD$2440 Mac Pro doesn't run that fast anyways... why bother?
And, how many professionals cannot afford Mac Pro who bought the iMac, will turn to those non-AIO computer?

AIO is good for home, not work...
WiMAX wrote:
那請問一下
既然硬體內部現在都大同小異幾乎沒有差別
蘋果到底是在哪動了手腳才區分出來 (機器更底層的東西?)是在軟體還是硬體限制?


因為Apple將Mac OS X轉移到PC之後
所用的BIOS標準並非是傳統PC BIOS
而是Intel所推廣的新PC韌體標準:EFI(Extensible Firmware Interface, 可擴展韌體介面)

所以Mac OS X無法使用傳統BIOS
而Windows目前也無法支援先進的EFI
(但據說Vista SP1會支援EFI?)

1. Apple希望這是一個整合的系統, 現在的做法可以保證系統的穩定性, 而不是讓其他廠商來保證系統問定性. 這是一種Total Experience.

2. 你買了一部BMW, 改放Honda引擎, 原廠可以不保固. Apple的想法應該也是如此. 軟體的保固牽涉到他所使用的平台. 很少人會責怪其他軟體廠商為什麼不在某某平台支援某某作業系統, 可是卻要怪Apple, 這點蠻怪.

Apple自己可以定義, 自己要RUN/Support的作業平台, 這是他的策略, 而今天抱怨這個策略的人, 到底是用什麼樣的想法來看這件事? 是不是該自己講講看?

3. 各位都不是Apple的策略決策者, 因此對Apple策略僅能評論, 其實也無法影響.

也許Steve Jobs的想法就是, 他不想看到自己的Mac OS X執行在醜醜的拼裝主機上, 而又收不到錢, 然後一堆問題, 還惹一堆麻煩!這是他的決策自由. 我們外人應該無須評論.
hawk.kuan wrote:
1. Apple希望...(恕刪)


世界不是只有 Apple,還有美國政府和歐盟政府的存在呢!
所以我說呀~最好 Apple 就保持著這麼低的市佔率,這樣沒人會來魯小她。
哪天 Apple 市佔率跟 Microsoft 一樣大,我就不信美國和歐盟會從妳的角度來看。
至少 Apple 已經在 iTune 上惹到歐盟了。
我的 Blog http://snowmen-world.blogspot.com/
snowmen wrote:
而要是本身就沒有寫 for PC OS X 也就算了,但是 Apple 很明顯的不做 PC OS X 而且是用一堆方法禁止,是出自於保護自己的硬體銷售量的考量出發,這就會有法律問題了。 ...(恕刪)


您的想法真是好玩!

或許您說的沒錯,但這些都是基於個人立場的觀點!

也請您以企業的立場來想想,在現在講求專精及分工的時代,你怎能要求(Apple)面面俱到?

Apple不是”明顯的不做”,而是專注定位在Mac上,你不能說你想要什麼人家就應該提供你什麼!

假如今天Apple真的要做OS X for PC,那是不是也需要增加許多的研發人員,東西研發出來後又要經過測試,

當然也需要增設客服及維修部門,再加上全球的銷售及售後服務,這些增加的成本及耗費的時間誰來負擔?

難道你要說等東西開賣就可以賺回來了?那先期的投入還不是要Apple先支付。

那是不是只生產windows軟體的公司你都要告,因為他們”明顯的不做”for Mac的軟體!

應該是”專注的去做好一件事”,而不是要求人家去”做好所有的事”!
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