Jobs，可以別玩這種類東森行銷手法嗎？= =

jackleung wrote:
Talking about the price, $199 + 2 year $30 data plan (voice plan excluded) = $199 + 30 x 24 (not including tax!) = $910 is not cheap at all. I could buy a refurbished ATT tilt for $150 (new ATT tilt is only $450) w/ two year voice contract only, no need to have to pay $30 data plan, or I could use the $15/mon media net unlimited plan)

小屋先生 wrote:
台灣人很奇怪,文人相...(恕刪)

Raymond Lui wrote:
The Tilt is going to look bad if the Pocket IE is used for comparison.

Raymond Lui wrote:
But as for iPhone 2G, the EDGE plan is NOT a must. You can remove the data plan on AT&T site anytime.

Plus, Media Net has its limit. It’s not using the native browser of the phone nor it allows full Internet access.

It’s not the kind of package that equals to the phone data package.

And as for refurbished good, the iPhone 2G was available for $249 too. The iPhone 3G will have refurbished unit once the returns generated is enough.

jackleung wrote:
I don't own the 1st generation iPhone but if I remember correctly, a $60 voice + data 2 yrs plan was a MUST to activate the iPhone w/ ATT. And you CANNOT remove the plan (unless you pay the penalty) since ATT don't allow downgrade the plan w/ the contract (upgrade is allow).

As for media net, you are not "officially" to use this plan for PDA phone. But you could use it without problem. For user, there is NO DIFFENENT between media net and pda data plan. It's just how ATT get more $$$ from user. I've been using this for 2 yrs. Everything (web browsing, VPN, VNC ....etc) just working w/o issue. And it has been discuss on xda-developers as well.

jackleung wrote:
Speed wise (which is what being discuss on the topic), pocket ie on HTC's stock Wm6.1 rom is not that bad.

honeydanny wrote:
i don't know if you did take the math class in college before, but i am sure you don't know the market well enough to say so. When you purchase a ATT tilt, you can't go with media net unlimited plan since it was not provided for smart phone. you have to go with "PDA Personal" which has Unlimited data usage for PDAs and Smartphones. that's $30.00/month.

and you are comparing ATT tilt and iphone? sure. both of them have the same data plan price. so the difference between those two will be the price of the cell phone. oh wait. 199+ 30x24 + tax and 399 + 30x24...

let me do the math. YOU ARE WRONG. Gosh.


Oh wait..i guess you don't know AT&T will soon stop sharing monthly revenue with Apple. HUH..so how can you add all the crap fee from ATT ?

since HTC can't compete with the price. Please let me know if tilt can browse the internet with the same functions and speed that iphone provides. Do the research before telling some jokes please.

Raymond Lui wrote:
If iPhone 3G is indeed 2X EDGE speed, that doesn't look good for Pocket IE.

Although I do wish to mention both EDGE and HSDPA network of AT&T is quite under-speed.

When I was in Hong Kong, I was able to get a stable 160kbit/s in average to 200kbit/s in good signal area. HSDPA speed is frequently over 700kb to over 1mbits.

jackleung wrote:
Peron is right on Steve Job is unfairly using the outdated and under-perform Treo 750 to compare since they could have something better to compare w/.

jackleung wrote:

Sure I did take math in college......in UC San Diego.
Yes, you cannot use media net w/ ATT tilt "officially"e. But you could do that yourself online to go w/ media net plan, which basically the same w/ PDA Personal (except the price). I've (and others) has been using this w/o problem.