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鄉民無敵!Creative 在官方討論區引起眾怒

千萬千萬不要惹上鄉民!

兩天前Creative在官方討論區發表一篇給Daniel_K的聲明,詳細內容如下:


Daniel_K:

We are aware that you have been assisting owners of our Creative sound cards for some time now, by providing unofficial driver packages for Vista that deliver more of the original functionality that was found in the equivalent XP packages for those sound cards. In principle we don't have a problem with you helping users in this way, so long as they understand that any driver packages you supply are not supported by Creative. Where we do have a problem is when technology and IP owned by Creative or other companies that Creative has licensed from, are made to run on other products for which they are not intended. We took action to remove your thread because, like you, Creative and its technology partners think it is only fair to be compensated for goods and services. The difference in this case is that we own the rights to the materials that you are distributing. By enabling our technology and IP to run on sound cards for which it was not originally offered or intended, you are in effect, stealing our goods. When you solicit donations for providing packages like this, you are profiting from something that you do not own. If we choose to develop and provide host-based processing features with certain sound cards and not others, that is a business decision that only we have the right to make.

Although you say you have discontinued your practice of distributing unauthorized software packages for Creative sound cards we have seen evidence of them elsewhere along with donation requests from you. We also note in a recent post of yours on these forums, that you appear to be contemplating the release of further packages. To be clear, we are asking you to respect our legal rights in this matter and cease all further unauthorized distribution of our technology and IP. In addition we request that you observe our forum rules and respect our right to enforce those rules. If you are in any doubt as to what we would consider unacceptable then please request clarification through one of our forum moderators before posting.

Phil O'Shaughnessy
VP Corporate Communications
Creative Labs Inc.


不想看英文沒差,懶人包只需要500字。事件起因非常簡單,Creative說X-Fi音效卡會Vista Ready,可是Vista出來也一年了,結果X-Fi在Vista下DD5.1/DTS解碼還是有問題,而這在XP下是正常的,搞的一堆X-Fi的使用者很不開心。幸好這時出現真強者Daniel_K,他直接修改Creative的官方Driver,讓它在X-Fi下正常運作。

結果Creative說Daniel_K已經違法,揚言要告,並直接刪除所有非官方Driver的文章,這下子所有網友都火了,在短短兩天內已經燒到1400多篇回應,拒買Creative是一定有的,甚至連其他國家的代理商都跑出來說不想再進Creative的產品。

以Creative的財力和技術力,其實要讓X-Fi在Vista下完整支援一定超簡單,連外面的網友自己都能弄出來了,這應該是Creative刻意的產品定位,只是XP下支援、Vista卻不支援的作法很怪,而之後卻又封殺網友的修改,完全沒有聽進消費者的意見,所以才會引起眾怒。

這讓我想到前幾個月的HD DVD digg事件,鄉民真的很恐怖,鬧的越大,對Creative的形象越不利,權衡Creative產品定位的收入和形象損失,我認為Creative最後會屈服的可能性蠻大的。

其實Creative要解決這件事很簡單,就說刪去非官方Driver是要讓大家有官方支援,少用一些來路不明的修改版,而完整版Vista新Driver也立即釋出,那就皆大歡喜了,就看Creative之後怎麼做了。
2008-03-31 14:13 發佈
我自己也是 X-Fi 的使用者
對於 Creative 驅動程式的更新速度實在不能苟同
就拿 Vista64 下 4GB RAM 的問題來說,竟然花了大半年才解決
官方討論區自然是怨聲載道,當然罵了也是沒啥用就是....
不過說句公道話,Vista的音訊架構大改,蠻多專業音效卡廠商也在跳腳,但不確定Creative這個是不是和Vista改架構有關。
這讓我想到
我買的小蒙恬和名片王
居然蒙恬都不出xp甚至vista 的driver
就一味地出新的版本
然後要顧客付幾乎跟買新版一樣的錢來升級
這樣有誰會去升級啊

不想再買蒙恬的東西了
雪飄清山
坦白講
我覺得這是兩回事
Creative的driver不夠好 那當然可以對Creative不滿
但是不該去侵犯到Creative的IP

自己改了用沒差, 但是不應該散佈

鄉民們法治教育要加強
G.F wrote:
不過說句公道話,Vi...(恕刪)


個人是認為...
要是真的是和vista改架構有關....
那也不會讓一個外人改了一下官方driver就解決這些問題吧?
難道creative全公司寫driver的人加起來都沒那個改寫的人強?
應該說creative一直以來好像都對driver這東西沒什麼注重...
個人是用audigy2白金版...
在vista64下也是沒法解dts...
甚至於你想接光纖或同軸出來...
改讓硬體解碼器來解...
竟然也沒辦法...
不過只要使用microsoft media center來放...
雖然audigy2還是不解dts...
但至少數位輸出的地方就完全正常了...

只能說....
想等到creative出新版的driver...
我還是直接物色其他廠牌的音效卡快點.....
存錢...敗家吧...唉...
我的相本:http://picasaweb.google.com/musicglobe
dummyone wrote:
坦白講
我覺得這是兩回事
Creative的driver不夠好 那當然可以對Creative不滿
但是不該去侵犯到Creative的IP

自己改了用沒差, 但是不應該散佈

鄉民們法治教育要加強.


在法理上Creative絕對站的住腳,只是鬧大了Creative就不太好看了

之前digg事件更扯,那是一個破解HD DVD AACS保護的金鑰,完全是非法的東西,網友po、digg砍,網友又po、digg又砍,來回N次之後digg也放棄了。Creative這件事也一樣,如果沒有爆出來,可能大部分人都還不知道有這種特殊Driver存在,鬧大了大家就一定會抓來用,砍討論區幾篇文章根本沒用。
G.F wrote:
千萬千萬不要惹上鄉民...(恕刪)

G.F大! 換句話說你也不敢惹我們囉~~
不然小心鄉民的力量~

哈哈~ 不會啦~ 所有站務我最愛的就是G.F大!!

希望您可以在01上跟大家長長久久的哈拉~~

話說回來, 您電腦零組件教學文章也太久沒更新啦~

我等的好苦啊~
同樣的梗對剩鬥士只能用一次, 燃燒吧洨宇宙~
[Sai] = L2 = wrote:
G.F大! 換句話說你也不敢惹我們囉~~
不然小心鄉民的力量~

哈哈~ 不會啦~ 所有站務我最愛的就是G.F大!!

希望您可以在01上跟大家長長久久的哈拉~~

話說回來, 您電腦零組件教學文章也太久沒更新啦~

我等的好苦啊~...(恕刪)


我自己就是鄉民,怎麼會惹你們?哈哈...

因為新品狂出,零組件文章一直沒時間動筆,真抱歉,希望鄉民們不要聯合催稿...>_<
以法律的層面來講,修改 Creative 的軟體然後散佈, Creative 絕對站得住腳。

但是以誠信的層面來講, Creative 早在每次 Windows 改版時,刻意在軟體及驅動程式上,對舊產品的功能閹割或是乾脆完全不支援的做法被批評過很多了。這一點, Creative 就完全站不住腳。

偏偏現在音效卡的市場上並沒有其他廠商生產可以相抗衡的產品,所以也難怪 Creative 老是會搞這一套強迫升級。
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